#12 - Patriots, Cowboys, and Bears, OH MY!

Craig D'Alessandro: 0:24

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Michael Marcangelo: 2:25

Thanks Craig and welcome everyone to Episode 12 of the s NSW podcast. I'm your host Michael Marcangelo joined alongside by the real BK Bob Kelly and DK sizzle Dave bark boys How we doing? great man. awesome dude. Great I love the lively intros it's great so on this on this episode hey I'm happy to be here man. You know

Rob Kelly: 2:46

I love this Come on.

Dave Clarke: 2:47

We spend we spend we spend a lot of time together at this point.

Michael Marcangelo: 2:53

On this episode of the the podcast we're gonna be talking about the best quarterbacks to take over due to injury not named Tom Brady. We're also going to do our week seven power rankings in the NFL, obviously the forrest gump award, but we are going to start first. With our three picks of the week for games of you know, the last week of the NFL. I'll go first because I need to get this off my chest. The Patriots losing 18 to 12 to the Broncos. It was embarrassing that the Broncos aren't a good team. Right? I'm sorry to kind of hijack this I promise I will even give you guys the mic. But COVID non excuse one practice should be enough to beat the Broncos if you're the Patriots. So kind of open this open this up to you guys. Are the Patriots are really good two and three team. Or is this just is this just what they are from now on without Tom Brady?

Rob Kelly: 3:43

I can't believe I'm gonna be this guy that's sitting here sticking up for the Patriots. And I couldn't believe I was doing it in slack either. I just think it was a lot to ask of this team to come in and actually play a solid football game. If you ask me having a chance to win my my question right now. Yes. All right, for having a chance to the last drive of the game. Actually, when that football game when you played when first of all, you had one practice for the last two weeks, your quarterback had COVID-19. Within the last two weeks, you had multiple players on that team who haven't literally seen each other in two weeks, and you still have a chance to win the football game coming down to it. To me, you can't ask for more. I know the expectations in New England are always higher and always will be because of what they have been. But listen, this is a new era. And I just think you need to lower those expectations a little bit when it comes to the Patriots because it's not always going to be like that anymore. You know what I mean? Like sometimes when it comes down to a just being able to have a chance to win the game is all you can ask for. And I think that's something that you have to get used to going forward.

Michael Marcangelo: 5:01

I guess my question is, but don't we always talk about especially in New England and I DK please feel free to chime in here. You always hear from patriot fans like me, like Bill Belichick is enough. Shouldn't he have been enough to beat the fucking Broncos this week?

Dave Clarke: 5:16

Yeah, I mean, I guess you'd always expect Double check to come in and win especially against a team like the Denver Broncos right now. But Know the team already, like, you know, the narrative is going to be the Brady Newton thing, right? That's always going to be everybody's narrative like Cam Newton comes in Tom Brady comes out, everything's going to be on cam shoulders. And I said, In the offseason on this show, that he's the kind of guy that's going to be able to work with that. Like, he likes the spotlight. He likes attention, he's not going to be it's not gonna be new to him coming in and having everybody talk about him every week, he was already a hot button issue coming in. But what I think because that became the narrative, what I think happened is everybody forgot that that patriots team was full of holes already. And it doesn't really I mean, it matters a little if you have Tom Brady versus Cam Newton, but not if you don't have anyone that can catch the ball. And like Bobby saying injuries covid stuff like to hit any part of your receiving corps that's already so depleted, and just has no recognizable figures in there. I think. Yeah, I agree. I think Bill Belichick is enough for most problems. But you needed bill and Tom together I think to solve a we have absolutely no receivers level problem you you need like double greatness to be able to do something with that and like I was watching the Panthers cam Newton's all team and realize that they have a bunch of really good receivers on that team. Like they actually they have quietly a bunch of decent guys that can catch the ball and I'm like, oh, Cam didn't even have that good of a season last season. Yeah, I guess he's got he's got this chip on his shoulder, but like new offense, no weapons. This is kind of expected. No, like, I know, as a Patriots fan, you're kind of going like no, we're always supposed to be good. We're always supposed to be competitive, but like, what's Belichick working with here at this point? I know it's like on him because he like put this team together for the past 20 years. But I mean, just on paper, you had to have temperature expectations a little already coming in like Cam Newton is not gonna solve every problem for you. He might even create some,

Michael Marcangelo: 7:18

I mean, I think just looking at the stat line like camlin 17 of 25 for just 157 yards, right? No touchdowns, two picks two fumbles, he didn't lose any. But he didn't run for 76 yards he wasn't a leading rusher again and it wasn't even close. I guess you know for me it's just looking at like you were mentioning like there's no one to throw to like Julian element by the way like this is now we should talk about this he had an extra week off and he looked terrible he didn't look great. He looks gammy

Dave Clarke: 7:47

he looked he looked bad last week or the week the week prior because he dumped that that Miss into the into the secondaries hands which was an inexplicable patriots mistake nevermind a Julian Edelman mistake you know what I always noticed about the New England Patriots. why they're always good is somebody you've never heard of always finishes the first tackle like defensively I think you can still see stuff like that you know what I mean? You still see like them them getting to their one on ones correctly they're finishing tackles they're not really that boneheaded. When it comes to penalties even though there's certain new stuff out on the offense, you can still see the belly check factor it's still there. But you know, we still have to live within the laws of physics you know, we still have to live within a world where you know if if a Julian Edelman type is coughing up the ball for like easy pick sixes you're not going to be able to win the game you know, it's like that's that stuff wasn't expected Well, you're gonna say ba ya know,

Rob Kelly: 8:38

and that's that's exactly I just think the Patriots at this point aren't a great football team and and for the expectation good then to be a good well, even good though, but they're not bad. I'm not saying they're bad, but to expect greatness out of them on a weekly basis. To me is just it's asking a lot out of this team right now because like you said they have no wide receivers it literally is just built by with jack and Cam Newton right now that's all there is in New England and

Dave Clarke: 9:07

john Josh McDaniels, you know and I, but I think poor Josh McCann's has been left to basically like, make something out of nothing for the past at least two seasons. You know, I mean, like the stuff he's trying to come up with an offense. It's, it's He's like, he's an ingenue. Like, I get it. He's smart. If even if he does look a little deer in the headlights sometimes, but like, it's just what do you What's he supposed to do? You know, Cam Newton said they're catching the ball. Because he's because

Rob Kelly: 9:34

he's there's no receivers. It's ridiculous. I just think the Broncos and Patriots are a lot closer when it comes to who they are in the NFL than people think they are.

Dave Clarke: 9:44

And then then patriots fans think they are because the Patriots fans, we know. Right, right. Right. Exactly. We're like we should absolutely not be losing to the opposite. It's like are you sure

Rob Kelly: 9:55

that that's exactly what we were trying to get across is like, are you sure though, because like, I wasn't like shocked me either. Me either.

Unknown: 10:03

I really like and it seems like the panda Patriots fan base was floored by it. You know what I mean? You weren't shocked going I mean, not as a patient sandwiches as a football fan. Seeing the page. It's going to halftime down 12 to three.

Dave Clarke: 10:14

It made immediate sense to me personally and Bobby said at first, but it made immediate sense to me because they've been in the news for nothing but COVID related illnesses and absences. And it can't be fun in that clubhouse right now you know what I mean? Like that office if you've ever been in an office or something's melting down like it's difficult to focus on the task at hand obviously there's like stuff going on there like maybe it's regional I don't know like maybe it's based on where people are living like it's they're they're not set up to like contact trace this stuff like we talked about on the last show on the live show. link to that will be in the show notes if you need it. But the the idea of getting in a COVID season in the weird COVID season get seeing a patriots team just get destroyed by COVID. And then they come in and lose to the they lose to the Broncos like maybe who's still Brady the Brady Bella check like height era. I'd be like, I think they could still win, but it's like damn, they had a tough week, man cut him some slack.

Michael Marcangelo: 11:10

Yeah, I think I think it is just weird to see like two and three right? And this is a home loss. It wasn't like they traveled to Denver. This was an account anymore though, does it because there's no one there. Well, I mean, patriot patriot fans notoriously are not loud. Gillette until like January anyway if there's going to be January football this year Gillette

Dave Clarke: 11:26

it's stupid that still plays such a huge part of your home field advantage you know like I just feel like there's it matters less that's all

Rob Kelly: 11:32

yeah I think home field that's not something that you can make it as bigger was just because it was in Foxborough.

Michael Marcangelo: 11:39

Yeah. Well, it sounds like I'm I was the person most surprised by this. I will say that the Patriots are two and three. And they have a set of 500 record for the first time since 2002. And if you would like to learn a little bit more about that 2002 New England Patriots team, please click the show notes to download the championship hang hanging over. I know that's a cheap plug. We will move on. That was North we will move on to something that I'm gonna have a lot more fun talking about and that is the absolute demolition of the Dallas Cowboys 38 to 10 at the hands of the Arizona Cardinals and this game, Bobby I'm gonna let you kind of lead off with it. But for for me as a viewer. It get out of hand quickly. Wait, wait before Bobby goes I just want to leap in to Bobby's defense here like this. I know this is a tough This is a tough topic for him.

Dave Clarke: 12:26

To me as just you know somebody who doesn't shit on him for being a Cowboys fan as much as the rest of you guys do. I mean, that just look like a team who was traumatized. You know what I mean? Like that their, their their leader, their offensive leader got, like a really bad injury, like a really horrific injury. And like I do cut them a little slack for getting blown out the following game. Like that was a lot to take on anyway, go ahead.

Rob Kelly: 12:49

So I definitely so that definitely had something to do with it when it came to how they responded to the adversity. The fact that Dak wasn't there. To me, the biggest thing about this game was you're going into it you're you're your stars out your quarterbacks gone. What do the rest? What does the rest of the team do? What do our guys do? And what happens is you guys hurt. Best first quarter we've had all year 00 Zeke fumbles two possessions in a row. As soon as that happens, this game is over. You can see it on the entire team, you can see it in their effort, you can see it and everything that was happening is just as soon as soon as Zeke lost it, the rest of the team lost it and, and it was just mental mistake after mental mistake, there was no way to recover from that downward slope from there. This team at this point is inexplicably maybe one of the worst five teams in the NFL, the only team that I think the Cowboys can beat at this point our teams in the NFC,

Dave Clarke: 13:56

but they're not. They're not like it's there's such an emotional team. Like there's such an emotional, I don't know, if it's a group of players or maybe as a franchise as a whole. They're like you think you can see they're meant like you just said he looked over and it's they were done. It's like you can see it it's like worn on all their faces, which is maybe a sign of mental weakness or a lack of leadership or maybe it's just the identity of the ballclub you know, like the Dallas Cowboys have more pressure on them to win that and 97% of the of the rest of the NFL because of like how the culture is there, how their owner is what's expected of them based on things they've achieved in the past, the size and scope of their of their franchise, all this stuff. So when you go to play for the Cowboys, you're doing two things, you're trying to win in that pressure. And you're trying to turn around a culture of losing. And that like you can still have talented players on your team and and they can get brought down by that kind of a thing happening. It happens in every sport to every kind of team. So when you say they're one of the worst five teams in the NFL, I know that you're trying to cope because you're a Cowboys fan. But they're just not you know, like if you look at what, like if you look at the team on paper, if they were playing in Jacksonville, they would not be having the kind of team or the kind of season that they're having right now. Do you really mean like they just could fly under the radar a little bit more. Some might say that they are the worst defensive team that we've seen in the last 20 years at least. But what happened But what happened, what happened in the first quarter they looked like they could put a defensive a few defensive stops together against, not like the best offense I've ever seen. Granted, but like, but they're but they're at least dynamic, you know, Kyler Murray does stuff that messes with defenses they can score. And, you know, they look like they could they were starting to kind of put it together trying to rally like a few good clutch stops. And then you know, fumbles you get that's the worst thing that mentally that can happen to a defense because they have to go back on the field. You know, like, they have to go out there and be like, weird, like, just out here. We did our job. But you guys got to like hold on to the ball for a little bit longer. And when you're just starting to try to build some mentality not be the worst defense in the NFL. And then that happens. Like that's just such a kick in the nards. You know?

Rob Kelly: 16:11

Yeah, I mean, I definitely get what you're saying there, but they have reached epic levels of failure and Dallas on that defense. So not only now, everyone at home, I know. Just Just give me a second event here about this defense. All right. They literally have the worst defense since 1950. At since night, they have given up the most points in the first six games, since I believe it was the 1950 like

Dave Clarke: 16:42

I think it was like Philadelphia Cardinals. You know what I mean? Like something ridiculous, I should try sending out one of those old timey football teams is like a leather helmets. But that's just it's try sending them out and play defense for you next week. It might work better.

Rob Kelly: 16:54

I just point it might work because the amount of people I've seen running downfield, wide open, like Cristian Kirk was on the 80. yard play is just absurd at this point. I just think this team is in a lot of trouble. But the thing is, we're still in first place. So that's what blows my mind about the whole thing. One big takeaway is I think Kyler Murray is the fastest quarterback I've ever seen in my entire life. He is

Dave Clarke: 17:16

so fast. He's unbelievable. It's crazy.

Michael Marcangelo: 17:19

A couple takeaways that I had from this from this game. First thing is gonna be a statement followed by a question to you to this for me this game and what zekiel Elliott did reaffirms to me that running backs are all but meaningless in the NFL, it does not matter if you have a good one. Because if you're if you are relying on your best player being a running back, you're never going to go anywhere. This would be the game when Zeke should have rushed the ball for let's say 22 times 165 yards, two touchdowns. What did you get? You get 12 carries 49 yards in two fumbles lost. So I'm gonna ask you guys. Do you think the NFL overvalues the running back position?

Dave Clarke: 17:59

I think that it's a position that's in flux. In the modern game. I think that when the rules started to change in order to benefit passing because big passing plays are more exciting to watch and they improve the brand. NFL fans weren't upset with those rule changes, especially not patriots fans because they were like great that all these make it easier for Tom Brady to throw touchdowns. It was it was good for the brand. It was good for the sport. But obviously the running back position is going to change. Once that happens. Gone are the days of the day in the Tomlinson's the young Adrian Peterson's the Eddie George's. You know, making cool plays Don't get me wrong, but the way that things are set up now, there's no point in drilling or offensive line to be an elite off run blocking line. You know, it's for the exact reason you said you're not going to win a Super Bowl because you have an elite quarterback anymore, you know, I'm sorry, elite running back anymore, you need an elite quarterback. So it's just the way things are and so you need to be able to protect even like hope that your quarterback is elite and make sure your offensive line protects it. Does that mean that the running back position is overvalued? I don't know. Because I feel like we've known for a few years that you shouldn't pay running backs that much money. I feel like we've known for a while like that the Pittsburgh Steelers, who by the way are I think the best team of football right now, a better even than the Kansas City Chiefs. We can talk about that later. The Pittsburgh, the Pittsburgh Steelers do the exact right thing. They were under an immense amount of pressure to pay levy on bell. And they just didn't because they're a well run organization. And look what happens like Connor comes in he plays great. And levy on Bell is bouncing from team to team and we don't know if he's gonna ever be as good as he used to be before he got paid. So what I think is going to start to happen is the position is going to change the type of position the type of player that plays in that position is going to become a different type of player they're going to need to catch they're going to need to be able to get laterally to the slot really quickly patriots style, they're going and they're 100% going to need to be able to block and that looks like a different prototype of athlete it looks it's different than what they're training them to do right now in high school in college. But we'll catch up you know, like that the position is, is being behind the line of scrimmage is where you can make a play offensively. They just need to change the kind of ways that they do it and it can meet its value again, you know, but who wants to be a running back if you're if you're a 16 year old kid right now Don't

Rob Kelly: 20:25

be mean like, you know, he just described right? The one exception to that rule. That's Alvin Kamara, there is there is Alvin Kamara or Kamera however you want to pronounce it. And then everyone else when it comes to valuable running backs in the NFL, he's the only person in my opinion that actually is indispensable to their team I think but they'll come are the saints are absolutely nothing.

Dave Clarke: 20:51

Well also, how drew has to throw the ball now to effects that they have to operate in a much smaller box. So having an athletic guy that can get out laterally that quickly like, they don't need to be as big anymore either. You know, like Eddie George was what like six five you know, like he was enormous and he would run through guys, he but he could also move side to side, guys like that. They can be smaller. They can be Danny Woodhead size, you know, it doesn't matter. They just need to get to the spots,

Rob Kelly: 21:17

right? I mean, you even look at someone who is my favorite running back in the NFL right now Derrick Henry, he even got the franchise tag this last year, you know what I mean? Like he single handedly brought the Tennessee Titans to the AFC Championship game. And the end of and the running back position is so undervalued at this point, that they franchised him instead of extending him

Dave Clarke: 21:38

because they know they can't win with him like they can really be fine for a while when just because just because because of him, right? Because you get to touch too much. Yeah, like if you if you can't rely on on a skill position that gets hit as much as as a running back does. And and as bumps as a running back does like quarterback, every every rule in the NFL for quarterbacks designed to make sure they don't get hurt, wide receiver you don't get targeted on every single play and you're not running full speed into somebody you're coming back a lot of the time so you can earn or you're by the sidelines so you can protect your body running back, man, I don't want to be running back like you're just going through the gauntlet of pain every time you know and like yeah, if you're Derrick Henry if you're an absolute foenum you can do that but for how long? You know like That's why every runningback career is so short How am I going to pay you X amount of million dollars when I can't rely on you being healthy just by the nature of your position? You know, so if we augment the position a little bit to to design it to make them a little safer like Montgomery for the bears right dude small but I've never seen anybody who says break tackles like he does like it's out of control I run a block run blocking isn't even good because we have good running backs that can't like make any moves among every so small but he like breaks these tackles. He's gonna be out of the NFL in three years because of the way that he runs. You know, I know people said the same thing about Adrian Peterson and he just he turned out to be a freak. Montgomery's career isn't gonna be that Yeah, I know. So well. But

Unknown: 23:00

and still pretty good. At one point time this year he was averaging 93 yards per game last

Michael Marcangelo: 23:04

game. bought this is my question to Bobby if I were to tell you read this stat line nine completion out of 24 tabs for 188 yards would you would you think that that team puts 38 points up on the board? Like that is that's what Kyler Murray did against the Cowboys nine of 24 for 188 two touchdowns to one rushing touchdown. And not to be outdone, that defense that allows 36.5 points per game allowed nothing in the first quarter and still out 38

Rob Kelly: 23:37

did you did you just hear that 36.5 points per game that's all that's all you know. So the Cowboys This is their problem what's their issue though cuz I feel like on paper personnel wise like I was saying they have some decent players is doing coordinator awful yet Mike Nolan so he's I wrenches on last week's show. He was my selection for first coach fired He's the worst defensive coordinator ever saved my life the players just look confused the entire time they're on the field What didn't

Michael Marcangelo: 24:05

you try? Didn't you try and sell DK and I on the Cowboys being 12 and four because again, because of stefon Diggs brother on defense on

Unknown: 24:12

games. Yeah, wasn't

Michael Marcangelo: 24:13

what you said, Stefan?

Dave Clarke: 24:15

Exactly. Yeah, I made a Tom Brady's cousin joke right after Yes, it was a good moment.

Michael Marcangelo: 24:20

So that was that then in the last pic of the week, DK goes to you and your Chicago Bears beating the Carolina Panthers 2316 moving to five and one on the season. What were your takeaways from this game?

Dave Clarke: 24:34

I'm just happy to be here guys. You know. I'd like to thank now. I mean, listen, it's the softest fiber one in the past like 15 years of NFL football.

Unknown: 24:51

Because it's I've used I

Dave Clarke: 24:52

would not expect them to be five or one like despite my impassioned pleas for high for a high record I thought it was going to be an up and down season regardless because we switched out quarterbacks which is like the death pill of an NFL team like when have you ever seen a team like switch out quarterbacks based on performance and had it have it like actually work out? You know, not because of injury or a hero coming in is like when that terrible narrative is in their screwed like screwing up your team who's the leader who's the quarterback? Thankfully, it's Nick foles that comes in who like the guy just he just knows how to win. Like he's just a winner. That's what he does and like it however, he's going to get to that he gets to that and like, I can't believe how much his identity fits with this Chicago Bears team like, I've been waiting for a quarterback like Nick foles my entire life. I thought Jay Cutler was going to be that guy because he can't be cleaned cut. He can't be he can't be completely perfect all the time. A great bears quarterback has to have like an edge, you know, like he needs to be like a Jim McMahon type and like, all it turns out five years later, you can only see out of one eye or whatever, you know, I mean, it's like, I thought Jay Cutler was that because he kind of came in with the swag and I was like, Yeah, like it's gonna totally work out. Or I look at Rybicki I'm like, I just don't know if you have the toughness to cut it here, kid. You know, I look at Nick foles Nick foles doesn't give a fuck what I think that's what I like about Nick foles. Anytime he's talking about anything, he's like, just sit back and watch it happen. Okay. And then the great contrasting narrative of Carson Wentz being awful. where it's like, oh my god, like this is actually coming true like Nick foles you should have stuck with him. If someone wins your Super Bowl, maybe you should give them a job. Like I that seems fair, actually. But here we are. You know, I know he had I know he had a bad season in Jacksonville, but it's working out so well. It was it turns out it was a good move, which is something that bears haven't done in like quite some time

Michael Marcangelo: 26:41

but wasn't really a bad season. Didn't he get hurt and did didn't? Didn't the mustache that didn't the muscle was his first.

Dave Clarke: 26:47

His first game Really? I

Rob Kelly: 26:48

mean, she came in game one and took over from there.

Dave Clarke: 26:51

I didn't know was the first game. I just know he just disappeared for a year basically was what what happened with my radar of Nick foles. And when he came in, I was lukewarm on it because I felt you know, like every dumb armchair football fan. I felt like Cam Newton was out there. You know what I mean? Like go and get Cam Newton Good god, it's he's right there. Maybe jameis Winston, let's try him out. But then we went and got Nick foles and I was like Nick foles the guy like kind of accidentally won a Super Bowl. Alright, and here he is. And I get it now. I'm with the hype. Like I like how he carries himself like decisions he makes two or three times a game he has like an insane moment. Which is it you know, honestly just keeps you on your toes because like two or three times a game he'll throw the ball into a place where it's like, Nick, where'd you go man? What happened dude?

Michael Marcangelo: 27:37

So do you really think you mentioned it? Like do you really think that it's a soft five in one because I think

Dave Clarke: 27:43

yeah it is subjectively a soft five of one it's it's we beat the lions were awful who we all knew we're going to be awful before the season started except not all at all. We'd be you know, there are only real winners against the book the Tampa Bay Buccaneers who actually look pretty legit and we did beat them but I think we kind of match up well against them too. So I also think the winner the year guys went against that might be their catalyst for the rest of the season as well maybe I mean I I think we all agreed that we're the Packers were going to run out of steam though right like it wasn't it wasn't going to be like a matter of if but it was going to be a matter of when and you know Rodgers came in pissed off but like Is he really that dog that comes in like on this mat? I like I feel like his personality came in he played really well for six games and now he's gonna be like see you know, it's fine I was I'm great Why did you draft a quarterback and it's like but he's not like a go win a Super Bowl because of that kind of guy you know because he's only one of the one

Michael Marcangelo: 28:39

I would like to be grouped in with you there when you said that we all pick them to run out of steam but some might say that I never thought they would collect any steam on the day six and 10 obviously not I can still

Unknown: 28:49

happen

Michael Marcangelo: 28:50

I could still happen could still happen but i mean i think i think you know between three games I was saying this pre show I just didn't think we're gonna get to a point where we ran down three games in the in the in the course of a week in the NFL in 2020 where there's would be the five in one team and the Cowboys are two and four and the Patriots are two and three so I mean, Davey your team is the best out of the out of the lot here so kudos to you Thanks man. I mean even the year the bears went to the Super Bowl This is like my my like irrational inferiority complex talking but even the year that we went to the Super Bowl we weren't even really as good as the patriots who like lost to the Colts that year I don't know if you guys remember that as yeah if you should kind of just blue like a 20 point lead but it's no big deal that was

Dave Clarke: 29:41

just Peyton Manning Okay, man that year wasn't losing anybody

Michael Marcangelo: 29:43

that have also been the fact that they turn the heat up in the RCA dome and pumped it and crowd noise but yeah, I'm sure Peyton Manning just wasn't gonna lose anybody that year

Dave Clarke: 29:50

right Wow, ah patriots fans of conspiracy theories. It's, it's like peanut butter peanut butter jelly.

Michael Marcangelo: 29:58

One of the things that we've also seen this year are quarterbacks like big name quarterbacks, Dak Prescott go down. And now someone else has to step in and take over and it kind of got us thinking like who are some of the best replacement quarterbacks, whether it was you know, the first game of the season could have been throughout the season or even the preseason that had to take over. So I'm gonna throw out a couple names for you because this this, this is a pretty big list deck Prescott, Tony Romo kapernick Steve Young Doug Flutie, Kurt Warner, Matt Cassel Randall cutting him out of this list. Obviously not Tom Brady. Who do you think is is the best story I'm gonna give you a caveat here Nick foles should be on this list twice. I think if you guys remember when Vic got hurt, he came in and threw seven touchdowns against some stupid team that that week and lead there and lead that team on to victory the next three weeks before

Dave Clarke: 30:54

does Aaron Rodgers not count because he would

Unknown: 30:56

know what happened you know brett farr was on he retired and then unretire though he retired

Dave Clarke: 31:02

because I was like, but he played again after that, but okay, retired. Alright, fair enough. He doesn't count. I mean, Tony Romo as much as I shit on him. He was a revelation for the Cowboys when he when he came in. I think he played like really uniquely It was a fun story. The whole thing with the holding the ball happened you know, and he's still around, he's still in our lives. I mean, it was hilarious. But that was

Michael Marcangelo: 31:30

the same year that Bobby that was the same year.

Dave Clarke: 31:32

It was it was it was the Tony Romo season every single week

Rob Kelly: 31:36

either either Tony Romo comes up dropping that football does Brian's catch comes up as

Dave Clarke: 31:42

well you guys need to stop doing such hilarious shit.

Rob Kelly: 31:45

It's crazy man. It's unbeliev

Dave Clarke: 31:48

That's what I'm saying. Like the you know when it's on when the spotlights always on the Cowboys the cameras always on him it's cultural. It's in the DNA of the team somebody needs to come in and change the culture in order for you guys to win you know and and that's not an easy an easy task. It's very difficult thing to do in any sport.

Michael Marcangelo: 32:04

If you remember that that was your that Bledsoe was the starting quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys. He got benched Romo comes in he takes him to the playoffs against Seattle I Bobby we all we all know what happens. So he's he's he's on the list. But I mean Bledsoe

Dave Clarke: 32:18

Blitz wants to have like magic injury pixie dust for quarterbacks or something every time he gets subbed out for an injury. It was very close to the same kind of head to which was Yeah. Did you think you're gonna get the next Tom Brady because like the context, like oh my god, it's happening to us now and then it's just turned out.

Rob Kelly: 32:33

Don't get me started on if Tony Romo was in New England take that's a whole different show for a whole different day. All right. So I'm Kurt Warner, obviously a feel good story. Also honorable mention. Oh, he is on the list. You said him i think i think the winners beady man. I think he's big dick, big dick, Nick. I think he's the winner of this because it's either him or just throw it back. Frank Reich. The greatest The greatest comeback ever taken over from Jim Kelly in the playoffs? I mean, that's got to count for something.

Dave Clarke: 33:05

I think I think Nick foles should win if he's gonna win. It's because he because he got he got ousted by his team right after he did it too. Yeah,

Rob Kelly: 33:13

he couldn't. He couldn't be the more personification of a backup quarterback. You know what I mean? Like he had the chance to start, couldn't do it got hurt sucked. went to Chicago was the backup again. It started out five in one took over for two injured seasons with Carson Wentz and brought both teams to the playoffs.

Michael Marcangelo: 33:34

He was also I was stood out of out of Philadelphia, twice like he then went to I think the Rams then he his his, his career fell off, comes back with a frickin Super Bowl and then is gone again. I guess. You know, I do want to bring up Doug Flutie. I want to bring this up because I think this kind of goes on mentioned a lot. That 1998 Buffalo Bills team was terrible. Rob Johnson was awful. footie, brings them to the playoffs and then Bobby's favorite coach Wade Phillips, benches him and starts Rob Johnson the playoff game and they're willing to lose him, you know, obviously, but those are just terrible. But I think Flutie and Kaepernick man, that Alex I think when he came in for Alex Smith,

Dave Clarke: 34:21

I mean that a great season that season.

Michael Marcangelo: 34:24

He brought I mean, he brought them to the NFC title. Yeah, I don't know. Well, it wasn't it wasn't super bowl that year. Yeah. Because they did it boy. They lost the Ravens but

Dave Clarke: 34:32

the weird thing with him I think was went because he came in and he was like, older. Right? Like he was a little older when he started like that. That season. Right? He wasn't like 21 he was like 27 by that point, right? Or am I completely making this up?

Rob Kelly: 34:46

I think you're making it up. Yeah, I think like 27 right now.

Michael Marcangelo: 34:49

Yeah, he was 24 he was part of the 2011

Dave Clarke: 34:52

was a whole thing with baseball with him where he like played baseball for a couple years did I like you haven't you know what

Michael Marcangelo: 34:58

No, I might be he could have been but but he wasn't he wasn't that much older than like Russell Wilson. Because they weren't they were in the same draft class. I

Rob Kelly: 35:06

think Russell what Russell Wilson was base Russell's got drafted.

Dave Clarke: 35:09

Alright, whatever. That's his rant. I'm just making up stories.

Rob Kelly: 35:11

Yeah, anyways, um

Michael Marcangelo: 35:13

so you think you think that they can

Rob Kelly: 35:15

go for injury that year? The bench Alex Smith. Oh,

Michael Marcangelo: 35:18

no, he Yeah. He had concussed remember it was it was in your right here. I think it was in New Orleans. He got concussed. I think You know you made it You made a case for for Nick foles Kurt Warner man, Trent green was the guy. And then I think

Dave Clarke: 35:31

Warner's story is always so dramatic and like, yeah, you know, he came from nothing. And they did this. To me, though I think the clear and obvious winner is is Steve Young coming in for Joe Montana. Because Joe Montana was

Rob Kelly: 35:45

an obvious witness.

Dave Clarke: 35:46

No, this is this is it. This is what it has to be. And I'm gonna lay it out for you. And Mike's gonna go You know what, you're right. This is the clear winner. Steve Young is the only quarterback of anyone we've mentioned, to come in for someone at the level of Joe Montana, because the only other person that's at the level of Joe Montana is Tom Brady. And and Matt castling, making this list. So it that like it just doesn't apply CBO came in, replace the guy as good as Joe Montana, who is the goat for like multiple decades until Brady and then performed almost at that same level. But he came in and he played a little bit of a different style, but he performed almost at the exact same level. Aaron Rodgers had even taken over for break for Farve an injury, same thing, but Brett Farber was never Joe Montana. Good. And Aaron Rodgers was never Steve Young. Good. So we're just talking tears here for like what he accomplished, you know, the shoes he had to fill? It's got to be stevia.

Rob Kelly: 36:43

Okay, so I have a count of that. But first of all, I would like to make a motion that Nat castle makes no list that we ever do ever on this show. And the history of the show, Matt castle will not be included on one less

Michael Marcangelo: 36:53

just for the the integrity of the show. I did put him on the list, but I can remove him. You're right.

Rob Kelly: 36:58

I second. The only reason I disagree with Steve Young is because of the mentality and the expectation behind Steve Young when he came to San Francisco. You know, I mean, because when he came there, it already kind of was like you're coming in to replace Montana. Granted, Montana got hurt and that's why he came in. But that was the the mindset behind getting him.

Dave Clarke: 37:23

Montana was so so good. Like he left he went to the chiefs and he got into a 14 right

Rob Kelly: 37:28

but Nick foles never supposed to see that. never supposed to see the field that year. They were the Eagles were Super Bowl favorites before Nick foles even came in. Yeah,

Dave Clarke: 37:38

exactly. So the expectations are lower. He comes in he's never supposed to see the field. It's like you know, it's like it would meet the person at the meet the highest level of expectations and surpass them with Steve Young. Okay, in fact, Bobby Bobby Lee agrees. Yes. So

Michael Marcangelo: 37:50

So. Yeah, how are you gonna pitch this to me if he just if he just overtook your take?

Rob Kelly: 37:56

No, no. So I just think that it when it comes down to it, if you're saying who is the best injury replacement quarterback, right. That's what that is. It's not someone.

Dave Clarke: 38:08

Okay. What is the most talented who's the most talented person of anyone we've made? It's still Steve Young. Well, that's still

Rob Kelly: 38:13

that's Steve Young. Yeah. Yeah, but that's not the question. The question isn't who's the who's the most talented who is the best injury replacement quarterback ever? And if you ask me, it's an injury. It's a injury replacement coming into a 13 and two team and taking that team who everyone was like all their gun went out. He was an MVP candidate. He was their best player

Dave Clarke: 38:37

yesterday. already good.

Rob Kelly: 38:39

And then Nick foles comes in and just it's like nothing even happened.

Michael Marcangelo: 38:43

So I guess my question is, how is it not Kurt Warner if we're playing by your rules? There there were no expectations he won. He won the NFL MVP MVP that year he won the Super Bowl MVP I think

Rob Kelly: 38:53

cards better than young

Dave Clarke: 38:55

well imagine how Joe Montana felt getting older and then turning around and the guy they got to replace his name is young. That's like that's gonna really push you out of a Damn dude like ha right. lighting a fire to my house anyway you have mine You let me know I think it's clearly Steve Young most talented most talented person have to replace biggest expectations their Super Bowl winning team it's you know like you're thrown at Jerry Rice the pressures on I'm just saying

Unknown: 39:23

let me wait something yeah

Michael Marcangelo: 39:26

there's still time but I will say I don't you know you guys know me pretty well. I don't usually like just you know swing a vote to go my way but I just think Kurt Warner well that's a lie.

Unknown: 39:38

Just gonna be I usually don't do this but you know me Mike mark and Mike. I'm

Michael Marcangelo: 39:42

not that tall. I'm gonna say to you guys is both my kidneys. The the the the the Rams were not the greatest show on turf until it's Kurt wanted to go over. And then he went to two Super Bowls in three years and he was back. He wasn't he was an arena football

Dave Clarke: 39:56

quarterback. As a close personal friend of Kurt Warner's. I can tell you that he would want us to pick Steve you

Michael Marcangelo: 40:03

can argue with that. So we're gonna go with Steve Young is quarterback to ever ever take over due to injury. He met him once.

Rob Kelly: 40:10

Well, that was like four seconds. How many times?

Dave Clarke: 40:13

Once for like force. I met him once and I worked with him for an entire day. But I made quite the impression I think he would remember him if I asked him he would be like Dave, whatever you said, man.

Michael Marcangelo: 40:23

That was right. It feels right all right so so moving on what we're gonna do here is because I love a good debate and I love deciding the winners and the losers here, we're gonna do ourselves a week seven power rankings. Now this is going to be is going to be the top 10 teams, the middle of the road teams, the no chance teams, then there's going to be two teams that you know, should probably go without mentioned, but we're gonna mention them anyway. Buddy. Give me your worst 10 teams in the NFL by ranking through week seven starting now.

Rob Kelly: 40:54

All right, so, to me, there's one team that is by themselves in their own tier. And that is the New York Jets. This team is the worst team in football and there's no doubt about it. I don't even think you could put them into going nowhere because they're going worse and nowhere. There's number 32 without a doubt, agreed. Okay 31 to me, I think it's the Atlanta Falcons I think what they have shown me so far this year is absolutely nothing except for blowing leads I know they have finally kept the lead this past week. I just think what I've seen from them I can't put them higher than the teams I had ahead of them on no way

Dave Clarke: 41:30

I disagree so hard they just blew out who they blow up

Unknown: 41:36

this is your take dude. No, I just was so shocked that he said the fattest soda who's also a garbage team

Dave Clarke: 41:41

yeah they're also not good but but you're like whoa,

Rob Kelly: 41:45

so so

Dave Clarke: 41:47

like they were there first of all that yes, I get that they the fourth quarter comebacks are bad but they fired their coach like that was obviously the issue. They still have Matt Ryan who's still a top 50 Top 12 quarterback and how are they How are they worse than the Jacksonville Jaguars? How? Because I don't really

Rob Kelly: 42:05

know what it was. I think there's a lot of teams in this league that are worse than the Jaguars I think this is one maybe not a lot there's a few teams in this league that are worsening How are they worse in the wash? Okay, I

Dave Clarke: 42:16

will I will beat Washington football team we're not blowing anybody out anytime soon. or not they're not gonna blow out the Minnesota Vikings or anybody

Unknown: 42:26

who's your pick for number 31 yeah who just Jacksonville Jacksonville Those

Rob Kelly: 42:30

are my next two because there's so bad there's so so so I will I'll give Washington as 31 because after seeing them lose to the Giants they were my next team after seeing them go down to the Giants this past week are very coming up very soon.

Dave Clarke: 42:45

Yeah, giants are not far away.

Unknown: 42:47

Very soon.

Rob Kelly: 42:49

Yeah, I'll get the giant I'll get the Washington professional football team sorry won't

Dave Clarke: 42:54

wait I will alert though Where did you put Jacksonville? I have the 11th cuz like

Rob Kelly: 43:00

that for the rest of the 22nd the 22nd Okay, fine. So there's only so I have the thought so I'll put the Falcons one up. Can we get the Falcon 30

Michael Marcangelo: 43:09

yeah. Oh, yeah. Can we get the Falcon started like, but for talent? No, but for what they're doing? Yes. Okay.

Rob Kelly: 43:15

So then to me, is the rest of the NFC East I go. giants, Eagles cowboys. And and my rationale here as I was looking at the teams ahead of them, and there was not one team on in my head that I thought the Cowboys could stop from scoring 30 points.

Dave Clarke: 43:35

I think the only teams that you just mentioned that.

Rob Kelly: 43:38

That the that the Cincinnati Bengals are worse that are better or better than or the New York Giants I think the Cincinnati Bengals are worse than Philadelphia. And I think they're worse than Dallas. But listen, you know what I'm completely irrational on this so like I was doing this lesson I was like 100% This is a completely irrational decision. But I put the NFC East all from 27 to 31

Dave Clarke: 43:58

because I was like I hate this division anyway you're not getting a lot you're not getting a lot of wins with the nscs this year so I'll give that one to one are you on? I

Michael Marcangelo: 44:04

just want to point out that that your 12 and four picks seven weeks ago is now your your your 26th overall pick it is is the division leading team.

Dave Clarke: 44:14

Now they're probably still make the playoffs. But remember I remember I said a few weeks ago that the draw between the eagles and the Bengals were like two blind kids trying to fight you forgot about the Cincinnati Bengals like you think the same thing goes over the top 25 best teams the NFL

Rob Kelly: 44:29

so their next is so so they're 26 Today I think they have more upside than every team in the NFC. That's why I gave him that and again, I I think you put so the eagles and bangles already tied this season. So you can't say they're worse than the Eagles because they already tied.

Dave Clarke: 44:49

And I know it's everybody's fault. That was both their fault.

Rob Kelly: 44:52

Right? They're both horrible. So like, what are we really talking about? Let's move on. Then we have the Broncos 23 Texas 22 charges 21 just Braves any of those. I just think

Dave Clarke: 45:04

they're all they're all terrible and like they could all just move around and I don't think the charges are terrible.

Rob Kelly: 45:09

I don't so that's why they're 21 to me because I think that there that one of the Texans I think they're both good football teams, but their records are awful are both one and five. So they're obviously going nowhere this year but like I watched it I'm every Sunday. You know what I mean? Like they're fun to They have harbored they had Texans have Watson. So Mike This is so give me your middle of the road teams so middle of the road teams like this is for you. Number 20 the Detroit Lions.

Unknown: 45:36

All right.

Rob Kelly: 45:37

The Cowboys higher than the Cowboys? Absolutely. They I wouldn't if the lions ended up at 799 at this point it honestly wouldn't surprise me. If DeAndre swift can be the DeAndre Swift. We saw this past week partner with Adrian Peterson. I think they can absolutely pull it seven eight ones.

Michael Marcangelo: 45:56

I just want to point out here that the Detroit Lions have the exact same record as New England Patriots, but go ahead DK

Dave Clarke: 46:02

I think now this is just power Reagan rings based on this week, like where they're at. I'm not predicting anything once injuries become a different story, but right, I think that the next on the list has got to be the 40 Niners that is

Rob Kelly: 46:14

an excellent staff. Okay, great,

Dave Clarke: 46:15

perfect.

Rob Kelly: 46:17

So coordinators are next only because I think they'd be a lot higher. But seeing there. Yeah, they've had a really tough year. And in fact, it's three and three to me is is very, as I got saying, Well, I think Kyle Shan has done a great job there. Then we have the Panthers 18 a lot of upside with the Panthers. I liked that there's a lot I think they snuck in the playoffs that one surprise me at all.

Dave Clarke: 46:41

You think that the Cleveland Browns are better than every team that you've mentioned so far? Yes, I do. That's that's wild to me. Because I feel like I feel like the Browns are much lower on my list. Like you're giving them a lot of credit. You see them against Pittsburgh yesterday that was that was the end of their season.

Rob Kelly: 46:57

But we're not going to be talking about Pittsburgh for a very long time. That's Yeah, that's true. That's

Dave Clarke: 47:02

I get that but but I mean, damn those that Browns team is there for too. I know, though, such a software issue and like that, that the baker Mayfield era might have ended yesterday, you know, or the other day so it's like I don't know

Rob Kelly: 47:16

do like how I picked him up moments before the game like the stuff that just go with any dog. I question why murders so bad

Dave Clarke: 47:26

for me and Bobby played against each other in fantasy football. He had Dak Prescott in his heart and his fantasy football team and he went down. And he picked up any adult which I thought was a smart move because I have Cooper on my team so he could have canceled out one of my players anyway, I blew him out like 1,000,002 and nothing but team scored like 64 points or something. It was barely moving on. So next.

Rob Kelly: 47:48

I have places two and three in the NFC East. 17 dolphins 16 patriots.

Dave Clarke: 47:56

That's harsh on the Patriots, and

Rob Kelly: 47:58

then I have Browns 15. Listen, I

Michael Marcangelo: 48:00

think the Patriots are worse than the browns. I do.

Rob Kelly: 48:03

I think that the Patriots and the Browns play each other this week. The Browns beat patriots.

Dave Clarke: 48:07

I can't accept there's so

Unknown: 48:09

your mind Dude, why am I out of my mind?

Dave Clarke: 48:11

Did you also think that the Patriots are worse than the Colts?

Rob Kelly: 48:14

I think the Colts beat the Patriots too. I think that's a close game. I think it's like I can't I think it's like 12 to nine.

Dave Clarke: 48:21

But Philip Rivers is not good. But everybody knows he's not dead.

Rob Kelly: 48:26

But last week I put that lead to our cadre. It's good or the Patriot

Dave Clarke: 48:30

really bad pick the week before that. All right. Fine, are the Patriots. You can't write off the Patriots. It's just gonna it's just it's a recipe for disaster. You can't you're gleefully celebrating their downfall. And it's good to

Rob Kelly: 48:44

know how good it felt to put the Patriots at 16 in the power rankings like I typed it was like this actually isn't a terrible take. That was great.

Dave Clarke: 48:53

I think they're the 12th best team in the NFL still, at least but

Michael Marcangelo: 48:57

I agree with you think it's 12?

Rob Kelly: 49:00

Yes. What was it? Like? I said, I didn't I didn't not do these with emotion. You know what I mean? Like I was typing. I was like this is this alright, who's next? Who's next? So browse 15 cults 14. Then to me, the surprise of the entire NFL so far, the Oakland Raiders, I have a 13 I've seen a lot of decay. I know. Listen, I know you hate it.

Michael Marcangelo: 49:24

For no reason to for no reason.

Dave Clarke: 49:27

Or reason. It's not for no reason

Michael Marcangelo: 49:29

is a pretty good coach.

Dave Clarke: 49:31

He's not easy. He's a stupid idiot. And it's gonna just because he won a few games at the start of a weird, idiot filled NFL season doesn't mean that he brought

Michael Marcangelo: 49:41

means anything. He brought two teams the exact same Super Bowl. And one season. I mean, that's horrible was him it was the Raiders. And that was

Rob Kelly: 49:49

all good. And then he and then he mimicked the quarterback in practice.

Dave Clarke: 49:56

stat, you know, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills that how everybody likes this guy. It's just not like, I listened to him speak as a pundit for years. And it was it was like, somebody was hitting me in the head with a two by four. Like I feel like brain cells coming out of my nose. He's better

Rob Kelly: 50:12

than Brian greasy.

Dave Clarke: 50:13

Oh, yeah, for sure. Sure. I mean, that's not any standard, but also it's like he was he hiding his weight. Oh, Phil takes a fine.

Michael Marcangelo: 50:21

Give me Give me the top 10 I'm more interesting.

Rob Kelly: 50:23

All right. So ought I have after this past week? So 11 I have the Cardinals. I'm just started out there. I think I think the Cardinals are that next level below. I don't think they're ready for that top 10 yet, but Cardinals are 1110 Rams. Nine bills. Eight bears. Seven Packers.

Unknown: 50:43

Whoa, whoa, whoa,

Rob Kelly: 50:45

eighth. Eight bears. I think that was

Unknown: 50:49

better than them.

Rob Kelly: 50:50

I know I had to St. Yeah, I said the saints were 13 No, no. 12

Dave Clarke: 50:58

the saints are at 12 Okay, and then we skip that. Okay, that's fair. I guess. No, the bears at eighth. No. Okay, let me hear the 17 do you think are better than the Chicago Bears?

Unknown: 51:07

the Packers?

Dave Clarke: 51:09

No, they're literally behind us and that same division, but when they play each other dude, do you think yeah, we love being the Packers. It doesn't matter how shitty Our team is. We love beating them. It's in the regular season. And like Aaron Rodgers is like basically done. I told you was I hit Whatever. I'm fine. Not Packers. Next. What's number six?

Rob Kelly: 51:25

So I had a tough time. I had a tough time putting the bears ahead of the bills and the Rams. I know. That's ridiculous. Yeah.

Unknown: 51:33

Those teams? How can you say whatever

Dave Clarke: 51:35

the Rams? They're 100% better than the Rams?

Unknown: 51:38

What?

Dave Clarke: 51:39

Plus, if they pay the bills, you weren't talking about head to heads like we're perfectly matched up to pay the bills like that. That's the exact team with the bears of the last team that builds Wanna play? I promise. So

Michael Marcangelo: 51:49

who are your seven teams that are better than the bears, Bobby?

Rob Kelly: 51:51

Okay, so the Packers? Yeah, the Buccaneers.

Unknown: 51:55

We beat the Buccaneers. This is so aggravating. Okay, go ahead.

Rob Kelly: 51:59

Listen, but so what do you really think the bears are a top five team in the NFL? Right?

Dave Clarke: 52:05

They beat retimer current power rankings. They beat the Buccaneers? How can the Buccaneers be better than them?

Rob Kelly: 52:10

Because the bucket is listen, if we're going off last week alone, the Buccaneers just blew up the packers and I think that bears loss is going to be the catalyst for the Buccaneers moving forward. The Buccaneers had 13 penalties against the bears. Packers against the Packers because they're

Dave Clarke: 52:26

just not

Rob Kelly: 52:28

they had zero they had not one penalty that entire

Dave Clarke: 52:31

hackers didn't know how to get in their head, bro.

Rob Kelly: 52:33

That's not it's no

Dave Clarke: 52:35

ear that

Rob Kelly: 52:37

was like Bruce Arians. This is my fucking team. I'm taking this team over. And that's why I think when you get these

Dave Clarke: 52:44

narratives from it's like, you're so 100% sure this is what happened like you were there was a dude,

Rob Kelly: 52:50

boys. All right, but then so Titans five

Unknown: 52:54

Titans are not better than the bears. Yeah, yes, they're not. They are not

Rob Kelly: 52:59

just Titans.

Dave Clarke: 53:01

They're the flavor of the week my friends. They don't

Rob Kelly: 53:04

waver. They've been they've been the flavor of the week since last year in the playoffs.

Unknown: 53:08

You know who's the best coach ever Mike for April? I know I already said

Dave Clarke: 53:14

I was a good coach but he's got a stupid face like Isn't that crazy? Like Come on. Get out of here with that they got Derrick Henry who you said yourself out of your lying mouth that could not win them a Super Bowl so like get out of here with that fine fine Titans Alex step

Michael Marcangelo: 53:29

going as long as you love them as long as you're using words against each other you did yourself Dave say that the bears are soft five in one you

Dave Clarke: 53:37

get I get to say that you guys don't get to say that I get to make fun of them when you get started going out to my have to defend

Rob Kelly: 53:45

in here in here I got shit for putting emotion into my power rankings okay so so then my top five Titans I have the Steelers a four I want to flatly disagree with that I want the Steelers but I don't think that they have done enough to put them ahead of the next three teams and those the teams that I think I'm separating themselves above the rest. I've ravens three Seahawks two chiefs one and so let me before you go reason I think those three the Ravens literally have not lost the regular season game to anyone except for the Chiefs since last year, and if you're talking about who I lost was counts for two that was a bad one. Did you

Dave Clarke: 54:31

see it they got sprayed but

Rob Kelly: 54:33

it was a loss to the defending champs who have shown look

Unknown: 54:36

that good this year

Rob Kelly: 54:38

but now I think showing you can win ugly is a more of a positive than it isn't negative. Well if that

Dave Clarke: 54:45

moves you up to listen to the Chicago Bears should be higher than they are because they're we were the ugliest winning team do

Rob Kelly: 54:51

you think you need to win pretty solid once in a while

Michael Marcangelo: 54:56

possible? Is it possible that the Chiefs could just as easily be three and three as they are five and one right now?

Dave Clarke: 55:01

I agree 100% they did those games have been close you know it looks like real winners though is the Pittsburgh Steelers I think they're number one like that five knows a strong that that that's strong record, you know, and I know it's weird because they like miss that week and everything's strange now but like, come on, they're good. Juju Smith Schuster is like their lowest performing wide receiver right now. Ben's having a great season. James Connor is Looking good. That defense is absolutely elite. You knew they're going to be kind of good too because like they kind of put it together. I know they're eight and eight or seven and nine wherever last year. Be cookbook. Ben went down that defense still won a bunch of games. Like the best defense in the NFL right now belongs to the Pittsburgh Steelers, which makes them the number one team I think

Michael Marcangelo: 55:41

so go ahead and pitch me both that you each have 30 seconds pitch me your number one team.

Dave Clarke: 55:46

I just did I just hundred percent did. Bobby sir.

Rob Kelly: 55:49

Bobby. My response to that. I just think it's the chiefs. I think until something tells me differently. This team is the favorite to win the Super Bowl going forward. They've shown exciting take Bobby's date they've they've shown time and time again that they can win the New York Yankees fast team with you. Let me give my take. I got 30 seconds. I can't wait. I can't wait to take if I don't get together. But no, like, when it comes down to it. They win games. You know what I mean? They went ugly. They went pretty. They come back. They blow people out. They have shown that no matter what they can win in any circumstance. However, I do. I don't hate the Steelers is number one. I honestly if I'm being fair, I don't even give a shit. If I wanted to be honest. I'm being fair. Listen, being fair. I had to steal yours one. But then I sat here and I looked at this. And I was like those three teams at the top. I don't I can't put them ahead of the chiefs. Because the Chiefs have those Super Bowl champions with Patrick mahomes. So I just feel like that's that's something in their backlog. You can't put them ahead of the Seahawks.

Dave Clarke: 57:02

Or we're trying to pitch the power rent. It's the power rankings for this week. It's the power Rams for this week. It's not a prediction. You know, like I I think Devin Busch getting injured is gonna knock him down the parent power rankings anyway, because he's like one of their best linebackers. So and he's done for the season. I think so. You know, that? It's Yeah, I think last night, and that's, you know, that's big, but they still have dope. They still have a dope defense. You know what I mean? They still have make of his Patrick, they still have that, like seven of the nine walk brothers or whatever it is they have. But it's, you know, I'm not saying they're gonna win the Superbowl. I'm saying after this many weeks, they've looked the most convincing. You know what I mean, compared to like, the chiefs, yes, the Chiefs have won games, but they haven't looked as convincing as they did even themselves last year, and they had to mean they haven't looked as convincing as the Steelers.

Rob Kelly: 57:49

Okay, so how about this? Either way, I'm okay with them being one two, either direction, because I think those are the two best teams. Yeah. So

Dave Clarke: 57:58

yeah, I'm not okay with that. So I should win. I want the series to be number one now. Just kidding.

Michael Marcangelo: 58:03

I think I agree with with probably 28 out of your 32 picks. Number one was not it. The Steelers are the best team in the NFL. So that one's gonna be DK. You still have it. You still have a shot to win something though, Bobby, because now it is this week's Forrest Gump award.

Unknown: 58:30

What's your purpose in this army to do whatever you tell my drill sergeants? Dammit, you're offended. You must have a goddamn IQ of 60 you aren't that them.

Michael Marcangelo: 58:50

So we all know that we all know the story here. Bob Kelly. Give me your nomination for this week's Forrest Gump award.

Rob Kelly: 58:59

So my nominee this week is none other than the breakout player from week six and that is DeAndre Swift. The reason for this is no one saw it coming. Everyone thought he was the bust of the first of the draft so far. And then all of a sudden he comes out scores two touchdowns for Detroit Lions 127 yards, DeAndre swift Forrest Gump winner week sex

Michael Marcangelo: 59:24

shark argument DK take it away.

Dave Clarke: 59:27

I'm gonna give it to Baker Mayfield. You know, he has a University of Oklahoma education. He got these great endorsement deals with some cell phone company where he pretends to live in a stadium. You know, he's supposed to be the leader of a beloved Cleveland sports franchise. And he went out there and he made everybody look stupid. You know, he's supposed to be a smart guy. And the smart guy knows that you can't be the quarterback for the Cleveland Browns or any Midwest team really and go out there and get embarrassed like that by the Pittsburgh Steelers. That kind of spanking is completely unacceptable and Baker should be hold themselves to a higher standard. smartest, dumb guy of the week. Baker Mayfield.

Unknown: 1:00:17

All right, convincing arguments. So drumroll please.

Michael Marcangelo: 1:00:21

The winner of this week's Forrest Gump award is TK sisal Dave

Rob Kelly: 1:00:26

I one one yes. Oh yeah it was a fix the fix was in

Unknown: 1:00:30

a fix was injured I haven't watched a Forrest Gump ever.

Michael Marcangelo: 1:00:33

Yeah, exactly. It's a pretty compelling and I do love an underdog So that brings us to

Dave Clarke: 1:00:39

every speech prepared now I'm just kidding.

Michael Marcangelo: 1:00:41

Yeah, well we don't we don't really have time for it anyway so that brings us to the final word Bobby because you lost I will let you go first. What were your like? What's your final word your takeaways from this week?

Rob Kelly: 1:00:52

Fire Mike Nolan. That's all I got to say is is is Please have some mercy. Oh my god damn soul. I'm so I'm so done with every single year being the same cowboy season over and over again. I feel like I'm living in Groundhog's Day. Just just get rid of Mike Nolan and give me some mercy on the season please.

Dave Clarke: 1:01:14

It's depressing. I know. I'm sorry. sizzle. Cheese somebody put this poor bastard out of his misery um oftentimes on this show, I decide to change my mind and my emotions about stuff while it's happening and I just like to thank you guys this week for really getting me fired up about the Chicago Bears. I came in a little reticent a little timid if you will, like come on guys. I know it's a soft five and one but then once you started to tell me that teams you know like the Tennessee Titans were better than them. I realized now it's it's it's bear down I'm all in you can't you can't take it away from me this five and one and I think that all you got to do is win games. It doesn't matter what it looks like. And I don't need to take the bears games to the prom. But she'll do so keep winning bears keep winning.

Rob Kelly: 1:02:04

I'm glad we could do that for you. I feel like

Michael Marcangelo: 1:02:06

you know really happy to be here for you. My final word is you know two and three to win the Patriots don't there's no need to sound the alarms yet. The AFC East I promise you will still show up to be the AFC East in November December. You do still have Bella Bella check. I think you are still gonna make the playoffs so there's no reason to worry. So for the real BK Bob Kelly. Yes. dk scraggly, quick save that clip so we can play a juxtaposing

Dave Clarke: 1:02:30

I

Unknown: 1:02:31

can't wait like six weeks. The New England Patriots

Michael Marcangelo: 1:02:37

panic that will never happen. So for the real BK Bob Kelly g cases will Dave Clark I am Michael Mark Angela. Thank you for listening to Episode 12 of the s NSW podcast.