Boston Celtics survives Miami Heat, heads to NBA Finals after Game 7 win

Dave Clarke: 0:47

Wow come into missing the point and we're going to the show

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where God will go into the ship. And we'll go into the ship.

Dave Clarke: 0:58

Welcome. This is DK sizzle I'm here with real BK Bob Kelly and the Celtics have just defeated the Miami Heat to progress through the NBA Finals. And I get oh, what what, Bobby? how you're feeling?

Rob Kelly: 1:12

Oh, I'm feeling so good as as stressful as that last two and a half minutes was, which, by the way I could literally, I already told you I could feel the pulse in my brain. And that's not even. That's not even like an understatement of how I was feeling like, I had to like, hold my baby for a minute because I was like, I need to, I needed to calm the fuck down of what's happening right now.

Dave Clarke: 1:38

I'm with you, man. I mean, there's it this is going to take a second because there's so many different narratives to break down and that game that was like I can was like a toxic relationship. I'm going to talk to a relationship with the Boston Celtics that like I 100% agree with you. It was an absolute fucking nail biter. I was just trying as I actively participated on the internet, I was just trying to be the one in the foxhole. That wasn't losing their fucking shit and the entirety of Celtics Twitter. Not can't blame them, but was losing their shit. I was trying to keep it together. But I tell you, I was like a duck. I was common surface and underneath. Just those legs kickin away, big fella just kickin away. That didn't feel good. That did not feel good. What do you think happened? There's two narratives that you can spin here. Either the Celtics almost melted down. But that means they almost melted down like six times and did it just for the record, and or the heat are a good team. They're a good basketball team. There was a reason they were in a game seven and Eastern Conference Finals. And they were at home. And they have a very talented player and Jimmy Butler. And they fucking tried their asses off mate. Which one is which one is true? Can you tell by how I asked the question? Which one I think is true. Yeah, I

Rob Kelly: 2:48

can tell you which one that you're gonna you're gonna pitch to me but I can tell you that they fucking melted down did they though because they did so so I so I can tell you so the I don't want to start this off negative because we're going to the fucking

Dave Clarke: 3:00

we're gonna ship there's nothing negative about it. I want to just vent so so

Rob Kelly: 3:04

a couple different things is Marcus smart has no fucking business taking the last fucking five shots of that fucking game. And it's blasphemy. Right That That ball was in his hands as much as it was. I agree with you. I understand that they were fucking throwing everything at us.

Dave Clarke: 3:18

They did that thing again. They did that thing again. Yeah, bro. They threw

Rob Kelly: 3:22

everything at Jayson Tatum. And I don't know, I don't know if he was passive, or if he just trusted his teammates, but they couldn't bro. I feel like the heat knew that everyone else was starstruck and and like just had never seen a moment like they were in right there. Like Grant Williams broke. I don't know what the fuck he was doing that last two and a half minutes of that game. But that man did not look good in the last two and a half minutes of that game. But at the same time, I know the heater amazing. And I know they're they have the heart of a champion. I just think if you do something like that against the Warriors run a water trouble. But again, I'm I'm the Celtics positive guy. So I'm just telling you that there's no reason for me to almost be having a fucking heart attack at the end of that game. Oh, my God, I'm just I need to calm down.

Dave Clarke: 4:13

Listen, I totally understand where your head's at. I completely understand where your head's at. And this is this is the kind of show where the game ended a prize approximately 17 minutes ago. And we're doing a podcast and we're very much post very emotional, almost Machinae and it didn't feel good. It was it was a pit in my stomach, too. I would just like to point out, though, that throughout all the chaos, I think if you try to go back and watch this game tomorrow or the next day, I think throughout all that chaos, when the heat decided to start to double Jayson Tatum and make someone else on the Celtics beat us. And Tatum immediately recognized it, accepted it, waited for the double team and then passed out early as the double team started to happen. I would say about seven times that resulted in like very good play extensions, or outright buckets in that in that game. And I think, you know, and I just I think we should move on to Jayson Tatum almost immediately, you know, from this overall point, because I think he's actually a very important factor in this game. More so than then the internet would have you believe, because he wasn't just rising up and like smashing in bucket after bucket after bucket. He was getting pressed. He was getting double team. He was getting flipped around screens. They were absolutely all over and he made place it made place. What to me what showed up for him was his versatility. He relied on his ability to do everything on the Basketball court not just shoot. And I think that there's there's been past iterations of him that take a lot more sidestep pull up jump shots instead of trusting his teammates like you said, you said that already trusting his teammates. I think that was a very mature performance from Jayson Tatum. I think that was a very difficult game for him. And I think that he he fought his way through it. I would just like to add, if I had one note for him, I know you know, God rest his soul, and I no disrespect to his memory. But please don't wear purple and gold in a Celtics uniform. That's absolutely unacceptable. I really appreciated his game. I know that he looks up to Kobe. And that's awesome. I'm a big Jayson Tatum supporter. As you know, I've been on the internet for the past two weeks fighting with people about how he's better than our peers don't wear purple and gold itself in uniform, please. That's disrespectful. Don't do that. But he had a great team integrating moving

Rob Kelly: 6:31

around that and real quick, was, the thing would take him. I don't think it's on Tatum for people saying, you know, I said he was out but he might have been passive. I

Dave Clarke: 6:41

was very aggressive. I thought very aggressive. So I

Rob Kelly: 6:44

don't know what it is. But I think he may he's not running enough plays and not running the offense through Tatum enough. And I think that showed up a little bit in that fourth quarter where like when they did run it through Tatum, it was an easy bucket or an SS to someone else. When they run it through Marcus or or Jaylen it felt like the offense got stagnant and all sudden, they were like all over the fucking place. And I like, I'd like to see him touch it earlier in the climb. every possession he needs to have it in his head. Yeah, you know what I mean? But again, listen, we're going to the fucking ship. So like all this stresses, and like all this shit back here, right? So like, we have the Warriors ahead of us. And all this bullshit that we just went through back here. Yeah, but the only punctuation point that matters is the fact that we're going to the fucking finals. Or go to the NBA Finals.

Dave Clarke: 7:36

So yeah, absolutely. On the back of if you take it as an entire picture on the back of my brain. I know I don't know if you hear. We're doing it in real time. We're processing it in real time. We're going to the NBA finals on the back of great performances, not just from the top three guys across the entirety of the playoffs. So I'd like to do a little honorable mention section here. We started with Tatum. I think there's a lot to process with Tatum's game. I think there's a lot of nuance in what happened with Jayson Tatum tonight. I think that there's notes you can have about certain things that he did. I whatever. I think that's true of a lot of guys on the court tonight. But we start at the top now start at the bottom, we'll do a little sandwich moving through to the middle. Honorable mention. I think Derek white. I think I'd like to shout out his intentional calmness every time he touched the ball. I think he's a player that sort of lives in between the margins. He he he isn't an intangibles guy in the way that Marcus smartisan intangibles guy, but he's definitely like a read the game. Keep calm guy, and I and I really appreciated that he pumped. So every time he touched the ball, I think he got rattled when the elbow came down on him. We didn't really see much of him. Again, for the rest of the game. I don't know if it was a concussion, whatever. But that was big for them because they took out a guy that I think that every time he touched the ball, and every time he looked, he had avenues because he was moving a little bit at a slower pace than the rest of the Celtics. I think we're just moving one gear a little too quickly. And a lot of those markers will come on and talk to him. He has that floater that raise talked about. He has he I think he was braver in his jump shots tonight. When he when he was outside three point line. Talk to me about Derrick white in the scope of the whole playoffs because you've come full circle on him. And I think that's fair enough, because I think he's he's changed his game. I'm not certain changes gave you the wrong term. He's He's improved on what his game is during these playoffs. So I think it's fair that you were mad at him in the first place. Talk to me about Derrick light.

Rob Kelly: 9:33

Yeah, no, I think his role in this series was a lot more of what Derrick White is, you know what I mean? Like he had a lot more he had a lot more room to run to drive to the basket here. He like Ray said, man, he called out that floater. And that was an absolute real thing in this series. And we saw that come up multiple, multiple times. So I give all the credit to Ray on that one. Because listen, I'm telling you every time that thing comes up, I'm like, All right, right. Let's go right. Like he's shooting the fucking Florida.

Dave Clarke: 10:02

Yeah, that's like the signature, the signature Rayshawn shot. He was calling him out that he had that floater before he started doing it. It was like he put it into the universe. It was amazing. It was

Rob Kelly: 10:10

awesome. Yeah, it was great. But the I agree, I agree. Derrick White was a very common president's for the Celtics these past three games, even though we lost last game. He was he was very big in that game as well. He had 14 points in game five. And I just think from game five, six and seven. You saw something from Derrick white. That's like, Okay, this is why we traded for this guy. You know what I mean? Like, because I know that that trade came under a lot of question, by the way, did you did you think that Bammo elbow looked a little intentional. I don't I don't

Dave Clarke: 10:42

I thought it was I personally I mean it was listen to your to your book itself. It's home home slumber podcast here but I thought it was a clear Flager I thought it was clear flagrant based on how they were. It

Rob Kelly: 10:52

was like a wrestling movie. Like, he was in the air, looked down, saw Derek white there and stuck his fucking elbow and it was like it barely even fucking talked about. I don't know.

Dave Clarke: 11:01

I mean, the 12 to six elbow is banned in the UFC. So that's I'm just

Rob Kelly: 11:05

saying that thing was pretty brutal. He gashed his head open. Yes, it's head open. Yeah, I

Dave Clarke: 11:10

mean, it's like I mean, from a neutral point of view. It's difficult to read intent. But I think, I think the way they call it the Jaylen Brown elbow, which almost won the whole fucking game for the heat, the offensive foul when he went up. How was he supposed to go up? You know what I mean? It's like you're above him and he's going up as opposed to him being below you in a more in a more vulnerable position than you're in you know, you're coming down and you're driving an elbow and I thought it was a clear flagrant based on how they've been called flagrant for the playoffs not based on my own, you know, personal perspective, but regardless, it doesn't make a difference. I hope Derek's okay. I thought he had a great game. There was a tweet from a guy who I can't remember his name, but it was a good tweet. So sorry, sir. Apologies. i We i retweeted the missing the point Twitter feed, but he said he said I'm a little bit more. Here for paraphrasing I'm a little bit more here for Derrick white dribble the ball is a little calmer, compared to Marcus who's just a little jittery right now. Which I think I would have to agree with and I'm gonna move on directly to Marcus now because I think he had a he had a good game defensively a point where he had heard game. It was a weird game, but I think it's pretty clear one thing about his game tonight, I think was pretty clear. He had a he had a strange game. He had a decent game defensively points. He made a couple of big baskets like his free his field goals were allowed. He made clutch free throws down the stretch to clutch free throws then Jaylen Brown fucked up in game six. So you know, you have to just sort of give credit where credit's due. However, I think the thing that most we're gonna take from that game is he is volume was back at a level that we're not really all super okay with, and especially in crunch time. And I think his decision making in general was a little bit jittery. It was a little bit slapdash at times. There was a couple of moments with the clock I didn't think he was as good as he could have been. And you only notice that stuff I think because of the role that Marcus plays you know, he's supposed to be kind of quarterback and us he's supposed to be sort of keeping time for us and keeping pace and keeping energy and, and keeping all that up. So what did you What did you make of his game? Do you agree? Do you disagree? Were you frustrated with him at times? I would say not probably as much as as we have been in the past because we got it done. But Well, where were you with with Marcus?

Rob Kelly: 13:21

I just thought so. Marcus has no business being your primary shooter at the end of a game. You know what I mean? Like he was open for a lot of those shots and he just missed them. Point blank. He missed a few open threes on the end, that would have been the absolute dagger. But I think that just kind of proves what I was thinking about in the whole game is he just seemed a little antsy to get through this game seven like he just wanted, he wanted to close that fucking door on this game seven curse that we've had against the heat. And it just seemed like that was kind of in his head because like you said, it seemed like he was moving. A couple steps too fast. All fucking game the though the offense just seemed to run better. When we were running it through Tatum when Tatum was was setting the play up and having that initial ball contact where he was setting up the pick or he was setting up whatever it was, it just seemed to run better. And that's something that we haven't really seen so far. This playoffs, you know what I mean? Like I've trusted Marcus and I said this on the show where like, I trusted every decision Marcus was making earlier in the playoffs. I don't know if it's like the ankle injury or what it is, but it just kind of seems like it's fading back towards like, the jittery.

Dave Clarke: 14:35

I don't know if we can say that over. I was one game. It was one game if you if you take his if you take his overall, like performance in the round against the heat, I think I think it was still true that I trusted him. I think he had a lot of big threes and a lot of these in a lot of our wins.

Rob Kelly: 14:51

I didn't trust him that much tonight, though. Yeah, I mean, it was it was a different look

Dave Clarke: 14:55

to Marcus, but it's like but you have to remember like, at the same time, he had a huge three down the stretch, that he really had no business hitting, because it was a bad play. When the play broke down. It was in like the left corner. I don't know if you remember it. He went up because the shot clock ran out. And yes, yeah, that's true. I do know he hit it. He hit a big three from the other lot happen a lot. I know. I know. It's a lot to process. It's he hit those two huge, huge free throws, free throws for huge the huge freak out there. They might have been free throws in the night and I think they were

Rob Kelly: 15:27

I was I was 10 times more confident with Marcus and then I was with James. Before he missed those free throws. I was uncomfortable with Jaylen at the last. And I was like okay, he should he should show both of these

Dave Clarke: 15:41

Should he had miss one going in to those two? I agree with you but so you do trust him. You've just been through a lot you've just been through a lot

Rob Kelly: 15:52

like reprocessing it like it's a moment where you're arguing this brain went through it all again man

Dave Clarke: 15:58

it's just no I know I was upset too you know at times for four minutes of basketball what I will say though if you know if you want to take the game sort of as a whole as a whole painting, you know one big landscape we gotten the lead we didn't give up the lead for the entire game show so yeah as like home court, Austin homers that are very stressful stressed out and the whole game is stressful as we go. If you take it in a very black and white terms, they went up and they didn't give a belief. So it's like melting down blown leads. Baba Baba blah. It's like they did come close. But the subjects did what they needed to do for the entirety of the run, which is a mature thing that you know, if you're if you're hitting them with a mallet of you guys do this, you guys lose these games, you blow these leads, you have to equally give them the the credit, and the satisfaction when they don't do it. Just because they look like doing it doesn't mean they did do it. They won the fucking game. They scored more points the other day.

Rob Kelly: 16:57

I'm the one that's usually sitting here fighting this battle. Like, you know, I Mike's Mike's still presently mad at me because of how much shit I gave him two nights ago.

Dave Clarke: 17:07

All right, you know what I think? I think that's actually before we move on to the rest of the sort of the player ratings. I know we still have al Horford to do we should talk a little bit about Grant Williams is nonexisting game. We should definitely talk about Jaylen Brown. Before we do that, let's just talk just let's just pull the curtain back here a little bit to see a little behind the scenes of missing the point and I'd like to I'd like to give it sort of in theme with what I've sort of been talking about about Celtics Twitter and, and the kind of attitudes that everyone has. Now that we're going to the to the championship, or ship for short. If you know it as well as we do.

Rob Kelly: 17:42

I'm going to we we

Dave Clarke: 17:45

me and Bobby me being we embalming at the Royal we we being needed the only two people in the room are enjoying it more objectively because we have the satisfaction of being on the hill of the people that believed in the team. Right? Yeah. So it's a win win rhythm, you know, when you when you ride with them and and there's been some interest and will soon name any names, but there's been some internal strife in missing the point because, you know, and there's some people that are very emotional and I understand they get very upset when the Celtics aren't doing good and they quit on them in the third and I but I get it a little bit because it's like, I'm so I'm upset. I'm upset. I

Rob Kelly: 18:21

get it. Right. You know, you're not giving them it's an emotional same. It's like me with the cowboy. I totally get it and

Dave Clarke: 18:27

nobody can be really held responsible for where they're at. But there was a bit of a Rao, there was a bit of a bit of a yelling match because we were all upset about where and I will reiterate, we were all upset. After game six. We were all upset after games. It's

Rob Kelly: 18:39

not clearly shown. I

Dave Clarke: 18:41

think it's not just me and you you and I don't have a monopoly on on being upset about the Celtics. You know, we were all upset. Nobody was at their best. But what I will say is some motherfuckers came in being like, Well, I was right, we weren't gonna win game six and it was like dude, read the roots.

Unknown: 19:01

Don't need to fucking hear

Rob Kelly: 19:02

right now that I sent that middle finger meme like 74 times now like I've

Dave Clarke: 19:07

never seen I gotta tell another person to fuck up more times in a row that Bobby told one of our other contributors that in our Discord.

Rob Kelly: 19:15

But we'd like to say publicly that I do apologize for that. I love it. That's great. All right. I love you. on record, right.

Dave Clarke: 19:23

It's all about it's all water under the bridge. Here's the thing. I'm using it to illustrate a larger point. When you are with them through the ups and the downs. You do get what I'm sure it's coming through, has a very smug sense of self satisfaction. Oh, dude, I felt you were correct. I feel the team is doing well. Right. I feel great because I would rather be right and have the Celtics be awesome. Then be right and have the Celtics be trash. In fact, I'd rather be right or I'd rather be wrong and have the Celtics be trash. So here it is. Here we are. And I'd like to just say to Celtics Twitter where we've been, you know interacting with everybody and I understand what he wants to win and I love all you guys I truly do from the bottom of my heart. But fuck, man, lighten up. All right. This is a good team. This is a good fucking basketball team. I know. It's hard to believe I know you don't think he deserved joy. But you do because this team, it sparked a joy.

Rob Kelly: 20:31

It's really there's so likeability it's

Dave Clarke: 20:36

even a dog is the real deal. It they're the real deal. We're about to go to the finals against you. No, I mean, people be sleeping on him, but it's the bone State Warriors are the most successful team in the last 20 years. So let's do what happens then too because we've had to sleep some giants on the way. Right? Sorry for that long rant. It's just it's been it's been popping around in my head and I'm championship

Rob Kelly: 20:57

DNA. Finally DNA.

Dave Clarke: 21:00

DNA has to it has to be it's correct. It's correct. But listen, here's the thing. We're all happy that they're gone. You know, we're all we're all happy that they're there. And internal strife being what it is, and we're all very emotional people. It's part of the reason why we do this whole thing. I will say I bet they're glad that we were right as well. I bet they're glad because that's been writing the Celtics are going to the fucking championships. So we're all we're all we're all benefiting from that. So moving back to the analysis. Yeah, Grant Williams is a fucking ghost. Ah, right.

Rob Kelly: 21:31

A good no a ghost is is is is being positive. Yeah, no. Ghosts being positive. He did was we've been talking about not belonging. You know, being being the thing of the past. Grant Williams did not belong on that fucking corner. And the last two and a half minutes to the point at least.

Dave Clarke: 21:51

He saw it at the right time.

Rob Kelly: 21:53

And you but you you saw Marcus see it too? Because he was he was fucking screaming at him. Do you see there was one offensive play where Grant Williams was at a position fucking four consecutive times bro it was on I'm still mad at him for it like my blood pressure just went back to where it was during that because I was sitting here screaming at the fucking TV Grant Williams he was fucking ill and me bro.

Dave Clarke: 22:17

I feel that he flattered to deceive a little bit too because I feel like he's started off the game looking like the kind of game seven Brantley as we saw in the last series, so it was like oh shit, there was a little moment where you're like oh shit is Grant gonna do that same shit again. He missed a lot of wide open cortisone shots which is like your whole fucking you know value

Rob Kelly: 22:33

basic and then he missed and then he missed layup after layup after and yeah, I was it was a rough game from Grant I have said that was that was the Grant Williams of all

Dave Clarke: 22:43

he looked he looked he looked like Tice under the basket.

Rob Kelly: 22:47

I literally said that during the game. Like he worked like fucking Daniel Theis out there.

Dave Clarke: 22:51

I didn't he wasn't jumping at the right time. He was like getting a little beat up under there. Maybe he's tired. I mean, I mean, it's been a lot of basketball. We've watched that do play a lot of basketball in the last six weeks you know?

Rob Kelly: 23:01

I was just thinking it wasn't a moment for great yet. You know what I mean? Grits grits strikes you

Dave Clarke: 23:07

had a big moment the last series but

Rob Kelly: 23:09

this is different. This is to go to the final so you can you know what it means that all

Dave Clarke: 23:13

right, it's been all of them with the for what the mental barrier was.

Rob Kelly: 23:17

It's a big deal. Yeah, it was there

Dave Clarke: 23:18

100 A lot of those guys have lost in Eastern Conference Finals a few times now and the specter of that is going to loom over you a little bit I think that's what we saw with them sort of blowing the lead a little but like they still had to dig deep and find the willpower to not let it they did it Yeah, I think that's the side we should be sort of looking at I mean, I know it's been hard to stay on track here but fuck

Rob Kelly: 23:43

it wrote so like the I want to give him all the credit in the world and I do because they didn't blow that but like it aren't and if Jimmy knocks that down all right if Jimmy knocks that three down yeah, we're sitting here are the three dudes Oh

Dave Clarke: 24:02

dude if you froze time from and you were like deep like if the fucking Angel from if it's a wonderful life like appeared in my living right I look it over. My wife is like gleefully, like tapping away or on her phone while because she thinks my existential crisis is hilarious. And I and but She's frozen in time and like the fucking TV's frozen. I think it's the internet first and the fucking Angel from It's A Wonderful Life just like shows up and he's like, Okay, I'm gonna give you the choice Steph. You're down the heater down to if he hits this three they go up one for their first lead change of the game. It will be a fucking dagger three. Or do you have them charged at a backpedaling al Horford for only two and like maybe maybe an N one. I am begging that angel to use his angel powers to have Jimmy Butler pull up for three because Jimmy Butler hate that dude. He ain't that fucking dude and I love him. I love him for thinking that he was I love him for thinking that he was I love Jimmy Butler for that reason to be on for artists the from the bottom of my heart. He is irrational confidence gives me life I love that about him. It was so fucking clear that he should not have pulled up and he saw his name in lights and he pulled up and he missed and I knew he was going to miss before even left as fuck because it because of who he is. He's Just Not That guy and it's just not in his game like that. Not when the game's on the line dude you do your Jimmy Butler thing? You do your fucking gym was from the get go Adam you change direction a couple of times you go up hard so that you clear this space between you and the defender you draw the file and you finish at the rim which he had been doing to us all fucking night if he did that I would bet my left bucking nut that goes in with a possible and one possible from a very, very possible I will call it a most likely and one from what the way the fucking game was being called which we're going to talk about the fucking rest which I know we don't like to do around here I'm missing the point we're gonna fucking talk about them. A very fucking possible almost lately and one. And like, that's the way that the game has been going all night. That's the way the game and forgive me. So what happens he pulls up the fucking three and I say the time resumes and I say thank my fucking lucky stars. You do that? Because there's no goddamn way that's going in. What do you think there? Was that the decision that swung the game?

Rob Kelly: 26:26

Yeah, 100% Bro. If he I get I absolutely agree that if he drives to the hole, it's a completely different story, man. It is. Your story. It was it was it was it was an amazing moment when you miss that I gotta say and then I'll pull down the rebound. I'll pull it down. That rebound is game over. You know what I mean? You knew it was game over. It was over

Dave Clarke: 26:49

and he was backpedaling dude, he was like, oh, fuck, yeah,

Rob Kelly: 26:53

you could see it and let's face that he did not want to be that guy at the rim right there.

Dave Clarke: 26:58

He's not you could tell because he left him wide open for the three so is momentum carried him behind the basket? Almost. Yeah. And like he pulled up for the three and I just was like, Oh my God, thank God, because I just

Rob Kelly: 27:10

claimed it to. It wasn't

Dave Clarke: 27:12

even. I mean, it's also you have to remember that like

Rob Kelly: 27:16

you have to remember that like got a special guest Phil and

Dave Clarke: 27:21

my wife she came here to watch the human here to watch the game with me and we we had a nice time now she's pouring me wine. What a life dude, what a fun

Rob Kelly: 27:28

life. That's a good wife. What a good wife. Yeah,

Dave Clarke: 27:30

thank you for the extra wine. Leah. Thanks for keeping the field going. But I'm all adrenaline right now. Dude. Seriously? He fucking pulls up for that three. I'm like, thank God because you know what he did? He played to the context than me. He was like a three right now would be great. Instead it would

Rob Kelly: 27:45

have been worse it would have been no it would have been tough to come back from

Dave Clarke: 27:49

that that goes in out that we went yeah, I think that's straight up true. But you ain't Ray Allen bro I love Jerry Butler. Fuck you like that? They can hear that dude man.

Rob Kelly: 28:04

So I know like we're completely off the rails here but it doesn't matter so the was Washington like before I came on I was watching the postgame like we're Stephen A was having like an on court interview with somebody I don't know. And Cedric Maxwell just walked up behind me goes how about them Celtics baby the middle of an interview it was the coolest I was just I was sitting here by myself just dying laughing It was yeah

Dave Clarke: 28:31

that's funny All right before we do the refs because I want to do the fucking wraps I want to I want to I want to talk about how bad of a game they called I think another couple of honorable mentions on good and bad sides we'll start with the bad Rob Williams Hi trick or treat in this bursary since he's come back from injury and I think that we adjusted super well to his injury going into the to the first couple rounds and because we adjusted so well his if we're being honest not as good a play as at the end of the regular season hasn't affected us as badly as it could have. I enjoy his presence in there if that makes sense. Even if he's not exactly doing what I needed to do I think people do still think twice about going up when he's standing there which I've been begging the Celtics to get a guy like that for the past five years so you know Rob Williams the ceiling here we are. He was a little anonymous a few times a little fucking sleepy a few times and somebody needs to tell him that if he gets an offensive board he needs to stop thinking about it and just go the following backup just go the fuck backup do don't think about it don't look around don't don't even really make sure you have it in your hands. Just go right back up like it's an offensive board it's a free two points do it quickly do it quickly before they can do anything to you. What did you think of Rob's game you know was it was advantage was a quintessential because I didn't

Rob Kelly: 29:44

love I think it's it's clear when his knee is bothering him. You know what I mean? When When Rob is being robbed we got two games from BAM that we saw in games four and five where BAM looks like a fucking puddle in the middle of the basketball court and he doesn't want to hear he wants nothing bad when nothing to do.

Dave Clarke: 30:05

We're going to talk about we're gonna talk about that in the Al Horford conversation. Okay, all right. Because because I think that that's where the Bama autobio conversation belongs but continue

Rob Kelly: 30:15

but I just think I didn't think he wanted anything to do with Robert the Raymond knows a couple games

Dave Clarke: 30:21

or whatever the basket and I run around the basket for sure. However, Game six and seven.

Rob Kelly: 30:26

I just think I think it was clear in game seven. That's why he wasn't out there for a lot of crunch time. His knee was bothering him tonight. A lot. Game Six. I don't know what was up with him. I agree. He

Dave Clarke: 30:36

gets so sleepy. I'm sorry, but I think Ben started to get him though. I did. Start too, he started to just go in his weaknesses. I think he's still prone to going up when he shouldn't go up. He was a little bit better about that this game actually, surprisingly, but I think BAM just started being like, I think I got the student on footwork he doesn't stand right, he's fucking feet are too close together because he's always trying to go for hops. I think I can pull them a little bit out from the basket. And I think right then I think that played a little bit in our hands though, because then it was like fucking put on a mouth and pick them up earlier. He's not going to be on the forward battle and like the one or two times that he beat him in the strength battle. He was huffing and puffing, leaving that fucking exchange and Alex sign. Like, you know, that thing is like, yeah, I can overpower you, but it's because I'm putting like, 100% of my effort in so the one or two times he beat him, he didn't really come back for more in this game. And I think that that worked for us, but but don't you think that like our footwork, like Rob could just work a little bit harder? You know what I mean? Like, I just feel like he's just static in these situations. He relies on his athleticism a lot all the time because you can hop right back up, right? Like he can land and then you can boom, pop right back up, which is great. But still play you know, like, does he sacrifice and if he just just gets a little lower, spends his knees a little bit, you know, boxes out a little bit better boxes out of the bin more proactively? Because he's just like not there a lot of the times in those situations very frustrated.

Rob Kelly: 31:56

Yeah, he misses his box out a lot. He does sir. He's got a lot he bought watches so much too. He's not alone. You know, a but But what I'm gonna stick up for Rob though because we don't want game five without him knowing those blokes and and there's there's the two corner threes that the heat had to get back in the game that Rob just came out of fucking nowhere. It's

Dave Clarke: 32:20

probably the best plug of the series that jumps shot where he like came from

Rob Kelly: 32:24

like, almost so far away. Unbelievably,

Dave Clarke: 32:27

he just got such an arc on it was that game? I must say it was getting five. It was fine. Yeah. Don't protect her against Decker in the corner. Yeah. And he just like he didn't even really just get his fingertips to it. He like smacked it out of the air. I

Rob Kelly: 32:40

agree so so it is it's a lot to kind of like the sales like this series. There's a lot of highs and lows. With Robin this series. I just would have loved to see him. I don't know if it was the knee. But man, having Rob out there being Rob, I don't think that comeback happens, man. Because if you replace Rob Williams out there with what fucking Grant Williams is doing in the last two and a half minutes, it's a completely different ballgame. So like he's got to get he's got to get healthy over this next four or five days

Dave Clarke: 33:11

he has it's gonna be a great a great transition into talking about the longest fucking break that this Celtics team have had since that you start this for the four game sweep of the Brooklyn Nets. I feel like we've been playing a game every two days for four weeks. You know, I feel that fits. We know Yeah, it's because we have and I think I think that they deserve the fucking rest. They 100 percentage of the rest. They don't have that they have one extra game than the Warriors or two extra games in the Warriors but like that, because of the schedule, they only have a couple of days lead on us for the rest, right? So it could be worse as far as going to a game seven as kind of beat up and fatigued as we've been it could be worse as far as actual injuries. I feel like smart and Williams got healthier as this series went on, which is obviously a huge positive on that note. I want to talk about Jaylen Brown first and then we're gonna move on to just kind of dissecting the series as a whole we'll do a little preview of the warriors finals but before I do any of them

Rob Kelly: 34:10

have an extensive preview extensive before it happens yeah before

Dave Clarke: 34:14

but we'll do a little a little mini kind of look down the pipe right for sure. Well we'll have a pre preview show for sure next week a full breakdown so tune in for that for sure but I want to talk before we go I just got to get this in before we move on to to brown in the in the series as a whole those fucking referees tonight I mean I know the extender blah but he fucking block they're just bad I like I think that people can see you and narrative and an agenda in there where it's like oh, they want the heat to win audit. And I get it I get why people are saying that and I was feeling that too. I think the suck at their fucking jobs do

Rob Kelly: 34:48

good. Good either way. If you if you really look at it wasn't good either.

Dave Clarke: 34:51

I mean, honestly, if you think that Kyle Lowry was getting found the way that he was getting found the way that you're calling it you believe that the dudes in pornos that are plumbers are plumbers in real life because those performances aren't even fucking good you know Kyle Lowry fucking big dick plumber showing up same difference right so just just stopped biting on all the fucking sales you know like he's clearly fucking flopping people give Marcus smart shift for that stop refereeing context, stop referee, but they put you can you literally feel them go like I know, but they're down 16 So like, I feel like they make those calls. You know, and it's like, don't don't do that referee the game. Don't referee the context. And honestly, Jayson Tatum needs surrogate and a cause that that that a player of his caliber, his athleticism, his speed, the fact that he's been he's beaten most guys As if he's going up to the basket 99 times out of 100 You need to just assume that if you didn't see what happened because it was too fast for you, you need to assume that he got there first because he probably fucking did because he's a top five player in the NBA. He's not getting those calls. And it's very fucking frustrating. We have to put the rest of the last two games talk to me about that.

Rob Kelly: 35:57

Yeah, broke the Colin Game Six against Tatum. Absolutely was was was the worst. The worst one of the worst basketball cars I've ever seen in my entire life. It was a it was such a good take. And such a good move by Tatum and for him to get called for an offensive foul for literally going up with his ball hand. It wasn't even his off here. Yeah, with the ball and and going on. It was It turned the game. And I just don't I don't think that the refs should be having that kind of fucking impact on a basketball game, especially at this stage in the playoffs. You know what I mean? And it's so clear tonight, bro, it was so clear that the heat we're getting the calls, okay. Yes, there was a lot of

Dave Clarke: 36:39

porno at the end of the first half that the disparity between free throws was like 30 to eight or some shit. Like it was like it was crazy.

Rob Kelly: 36:48

And I was just gonna I know people were gonna say that like, oh, but the Celtics have more free stuff. I don't give a shit. The free throw the free throw marks don't don't represent the

Dave Clarke: 37:00

wait, then to dissipate the heat away more by the end of the first half. They started doing makeup calls.

Rob Kelly: 37:03

Yeah, they did. Absolutely they did. 100%. And that's, that's another thing that pissed me off is it's so fucking clear. When a makeup call was being made, there was a couple of rules. There's road tonight was the most obscene thing I've ever seen in my life.

Dave Clarke: 37:20

I know which one you're talking about. But it even went our way. And it was fucking at sea.

Rob Kelly: 37:24

So that was just a queer makeup call it like it was it was I think, I don't know, it was the band elbow.

Dave Clarke: 37:30

I know, it was like it was it was some sort of off like, we should have gotten I forget exactly how it I'm processing a lot of data right now. But we had some sort of offensive move. There was clearly a foul that they didn't call and then they call an offensive foul. And then on the other end against the ball back. And I just think it's fucking bananas. Because like, it's unbelievable. It's so inconsistent, like Marcus smart slides to take a charge almost identically to Kyle Lowry. And they call it differently. Like, you know, calories feet are both moving at the same time. And

Rob Kelly: 38:00

they were in the air. They were in the fucking Yeah. They call fucking charter in the air.

Dave Clarke: 38:05

It's insane. And the craziest thing is, right, here's the here's the crazy thing. These challenges, right like this, this, this sort of, I will call it relatively new, right still, like in the NBA, this this sort of system of like challenging the calls. You know which ones are getting overturned and which ones aren't? And it's not because when you look at them, you go Oh, because of the rules of the game. It's like you go, Oh, the referees can overturn that. They'll look like idiots. Because the one that we challenged right, Jaylen Brown was elbow going up. There was no way to overturn it. Because they called it right. Like they blew up for it. If they had to overturn it, they would have had to call it a blocking file. But it was kind of neither. Right? Like it should have been a no call. So they can't be like, Oh, it's a no call because then it's like, Well, who would have gotten the rebound. But like jail, it was Jaylen Brown. fifth foul. So like that's why we challenged it. Right. And the commentators by the way, were also fucking atrocious tonight, Jackson and fucking van Gundy. I mean, what else is new? But they can't wrap their head around that every single time they go. Why do you chose to just focus to do seven minutes left to the because this is fifth fall. And he's the second best player on the team. Dude. That's why you fucking idiot. They cannot wrap their heads around

Rob Kelly: 39:14

that there's a reason they're not coaches. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Dave Clarke: 39:19

I wouldn't let I wouldn't let those guys manage my

Rob Kelly: 39:21

Mark Jackson. Basketball, it's Unbeliev just goes

Dave Clarke: 39:25

to show where my priorities are. So point being. Yeah, dude. I mean, they couldn't overturn it. You know, you might as well because it's just fifth value. Might as well put the challenge out with the context of how much was left, but I don't even know about these challenges. Do like forget it. Like just just let them fucking call the game because it's like, you get one challenge and it's like it's fucking wasted then. Oh my god. Can we actually talk about fucking Kyler Murray calling a timeout and bringing them down to one that was such a big moment. What a fucking idiot dude. What a fucking idiot. Like he's like, this is the Kyle Lowry game. Is that what he was thinking? You can call one of our last two timeouts. like eight minutes left dude. What are you thinking get up. Or like get get to a jump ball or something? Like what are you doing?

Rob Kelly: 40:07

Yeah, no, Kyle Lowry was so weird tonight. And he's such a bit less than my girlfriend. doesn't know anything about basketball. You know what I mean? Like she doesn't watch back all night.

Dave Clarke: 40:19

She's all my glasses. Unbelievable. All night

Rob Kelly: 40:22

long. She's like, Kyle, who is that guy? He's such a little bitch. Today. She said that like 15 times. Does he do anything except complain? MacBook? No, he doesn't. Yeah, Kyle Lowry is I don't know if it's his old age at this point and he can't do anything else except for try and get flops and complain about cause but I've never hated a player more than I hate to kind of elaborate tonight I've hated a lot of fucking basketball players and a lot of series but my hate for you I can't was maybe Oh real bro I will actually LeBrons

Dave Clarke: 40:56

top yeah I watched like Kobe Bryant LeBron no shots from behind the backboard and kill us in this game setting like this

Rob Kelly: 41:04

you got to think about those series this series LeBron absolutely destroyed us I hated him a lot but I hated him Watson

Dave Clarke: 41:15

I feel like I've hated our own players more than I hated Kyler in the past but he does flop at the tweet of the other night I saw tonight it was Kyle Lowry flops like everyone thinks Marcus smart flops is like yeah pretty pretty true like pretty on point anyway yeah the rest of the fucking trash I think you know we still have to watch out for them in the next series hopefully hopefully we get enough games for Boston and win but I'm hoping that they don't extend the series because this is when it really comes out you know when it's they get an extra finals game I bet an extra finals games were twice as much as an as an extra Eastern Conference Finals game. I think that the agenda is clear and I just think we've learned a lot and I think before we go through a preview go to a preview of the finals to close this out. I just like to say like, regardless now from this point I've been saying this for a while I'm super fucking proud of this team. They vanquish Kevin Durant and the Brooklyn Nets and for the vanquished Yiannis onto Kupo the defending NBA champion Milwaukee Bucks in seven granted at home then they they went up against what some of the commentators who by the way were comments had a taking on this game and analyzing this game like the heat had already won. And they were the best Cinderella story that they had ever seen. The most resilient team in basketball I heard them called Jimmy Butler talking to Dwayne Wade on the phone, you know, that. Today they vanquished the heat in seven but they also also vanquished it and agenda by the refs. And they also vanquished a national news media that was not on their side. They vanquish the ghosts of Eastern Conference Finals past they vanquished a fan base that was split right down the middle on if they believed in them or not. If they thought that they were anything they vent vanquish the demons of their past. They they rode with a brand new coach who experienced his first game seventh this year. And now it was his first game seventh and an Eastern Conference Finals. And he had to say to everyone that's different now, it's different with me here because we don't do that shit anymore. So the hill that they climbed, regardless, I think is a huge hill and we were looking down the pipe at a Celtics franchise over the next few years that are always there and they're about so fucking get on board if you haven't been on board up to this point. This is the cutoff time this is the cutoff all right that it's done. It's fucking done. We're in the finals. Now it's I was proud of them no matter what. Now it's that okay, because we're in the fucking finals of against against a team that has as let's be flexible can face a championship fucking pedigree. Okay, so whatever happens in this point out, die on the fucking shields for the love of God. All right, moving on to a preview

Rob Kelly: 43:44

where I got I got to follow up on that a little bit. So yes, I completely agree. This team this team has has made it they are now what we like to call Eastern Conference Champions

Dave Clarke: 43:58

I believe. Who got the Larry Bird award. I didn't even

Rob Kelly: 44:02

look Tatum was Teddy right? Yeah, he had to get it.

Dave Clarke: 44:05

Awesome person Larry Bird award goes to Celtic. Yes. Fuck yes.

Rob Kelly: 44:10

It's amazing. It's amazing. It's unbelievable. It's just crazy how much people I don't know why the NBA feels like they're against the Celtics. The ever everything seemed like they were against this team. And time and time again. They proved that they belong here. Listen, this team dominated on the road this this postseason they won their two biggest games that they've ever played on the fucking road man that game six in Milwaukee down three to a great road is just such big balls and then you go up in game seven against a team that you just blew Game Six a chance to go to the finals everything on your fucking back in an era no and every fucking deliver bro and it's just this team has so many different narratives going where it's like they don't lose two games in a row. They don't do this they don't do this and they just keep fucking proving it man. And if they just keep keep up exactly what they're doing. I honestly feel like we have a very very good shot to win the fucking NBA Finals because like I said, this team does not lose two games in a row and I will keep fucking saying that that like if they lose the game, I can almost guarantee that they are coming out the next day the next game and winning that fucking game because they just don't do it. They do not lose two games in a row. And I think that is such an underplayed storyline of this entire team that like they do not come out and make that same mistake twice. You know what I mean? Like they They will come out slower than one game. But the next game they're going to come out and fucking get out to a 21 to lead. It's just It's unbelievable. How many times people have doubted his team they just come out and they're just like yeah, well fuck you not fucking happening today it's just

Dave Clarke: 45:56

I really I really do believe that I watched the entire build up the entire narrative be anti Celtics I think it was Kenny, you know and I get why they do it you know, they're trying to sell a fucking story here you know, they're trying to sell a narrative that's how you sell a sports league to people I mean the NFL have been doing it better than anyone for a long time they've been crushing narratives that are actually true and making up ones that aren't for the past 20 years of our life more effectively than any other sport in the world. But I get your cell in a narrative the heat shouldn't have been in position to win that series there were weren't that much better than that and I and I and credit to the heat you know credit to the heat for fighting credit to Jimmy Butler for looking like fucking LeBron James a couple of times out there but at the end of the day like I just am so fucking proud of the of the fellas in green tonight because I just think that they really dug deep and and I think that a lot of things were going against them tonight no momentum was going against them I think the the they were away from home I think as much as the Miami crowd bails on their team I think they can get pretty loud. And I think they stay pretty loud for the majority of that game and I think it was a hard place to go play. I think Jimmy Butler's dog you know, I like I think he's a fucking good player. I tweeted tonight off the out of the missing point. The point account I said, everyone out of here is acting like Jimmy Butler having a good game. It's like Luke Walton dropping 40 on you. It's not It's Jimmy but he's really good. Like he's legit really good at basketball. Like why like, give him a little bit more fucking credit. You know, because he did in this playoffs what KD couldn't do, right which was take the fucking suck to take the Celtics to seven games. So give them a little fucking credit because he's a damn good basketball player. And I personally been saying that for years. And also he fits really well in Miami and I think that they did a really good job with the culture around him. And I think that Tyler Herro was fucking banged up for the entire series and like that might have made a difference but look end of the day give the fucking heat a little bit more credit and then you'll be a little bit more proud of the Celtics for what they did you know I think swallowing this narrative that we should have steamrolled them is half your fucking problem but anyway we want so it doesn't fucking matter and we also by the way if you were just remember I know it seems like a fucking just as a small aside it seems seems like an eternity ago we came into this series off of one of the hardest fought seven game series wins I've ever watched the team go through beating the Milwaukee Bucks and seven that was mentally emotionally and physically exhausting for that team. And the heat got a break before we went in and they won you know they won Game one against us because we were fucked up. So yeah, end of the day like you know the series like you said the series had a lot of narratives but I just think you're safer just kind of riding with this team at this point. All right, moving on to a to a small matchup preview we you and I actually ironically have touched on this already because we were sending the book and Celtics to the championship after I think the game game too.

Rob Kelly: 48:38

But

Dave Clarke: 48:39

it took a little bit longer but here we are. Yeah, I look obviously no 100% just it just didn't go the way you know the route that I thought we're gonna go but that's how I find my way home. Um, so I just like to say I'm glad it's the Warriors and not the Mavericks matchup wise but like anything can happen. I'm still very scared of Stefan clay, all the reverence and respect to them again, I think we're deeper. I think they do a lot of a pace. The Golden State Warriors. I think they're very fast team and especially with their two best players being guards that can like space the floor really well and can shoot from fucking anywhere. And I think we're fast too. And I don't think they've come up against that. I don't know if anyone's going to play the kind of defense that we played against them. What do you think man? Like? I mean, it's been really hard to predict every fucking series in this playoffs in the Western Conference in the Eastern Conference, but we're gonna have to try to make an effort here. What do you think you scared of Steph and Klay are they the best team we faced in this playoff run so far? Were you

Rob Kelly: 49:33

at the definitely the most accomplished right? I don't know if they're the best. I don't think the deepest I think Milwaukee was deeper than them. I think Milwaukee was a tougher matchup

Dave Clarke: 49:44

for us the Washington thematically biochar away from beaten us 300 Yeah

Rob Kelly: 49:48

100% Because wasn't Yiannis was so dominant down low against us in that series and I think against both the heat and against the Warriors almost our our strength is down low and our size and our toughness and that's what we had a long series right that's that's what I mean it's it's crazy that that that was like our toughest thing was underneath that entire series because it's got to be our strength going into Golden State. That's why I think Rob Williams is so important for this next series man, he is so important to get healthy. Because if you asked me, you know, he he turned him out of bio into a puddle for two games. Talking about kufan Looney, listen, Looney is a great bow a ballplayer Okay, he's not Bamaga bio, and he's definitely now fucking Yiannis. So you know that That's That's where our strength is gonna lie in this series. A if you ask me right now, you know who has the best two players in this series or best player in this series? It's still us. I think Tatum right now is a more dominant basketball players and Stefan Curry was Derek Carr. He's amazing. He's going he's one of my favorite players to watch. And to him. He's got more weapons, right, and we got more around us too. So he just, I think top to bottom, we do match up really well with them. I don't I don't want to call a game right now. I think we should save that for next one.

Dave Clarke: 51:16

But let's play one game against the first.

Rob Kelly: 51:19

Let's see, exactly. I wouldn't be surprised to series one, seven. And I think that that's what's going to end up happening. You know what I mean? Like, it's gonna be so many different narratives. And so we're talking things happening in this final series. Like I'm just not ready. I'm not ready to even fucking start thinking about the stress I'm gonna go through in this series. But

Dave Clarke: 51:40

speaking of the warriors, you know, Draymond Green when he thought before Game Six, Draymond Green said I think the Celtics are going to advance. I think everybody that was watching that the Celtics heat series through five games probably thought that the Celtics, were going to advance and nobody really thought that you were going to win game six in Boston, but they did credit to do remember when John Wall jumped up on the scores desk and Isaiah versus John Wall series, that playoffs? It was a game six. And it's like winners Don't. Don't celebrate Game Six. That made me feel kind of good. That data has lumen like all those guys. Were getting in the camera and being like, thanks a lot. Dream on. Thanks for the inspiration of like, hey motherfuckers it's still a game seven to play. Stop fucking celebrating like you did something, man because all you did is take it to seven and then they sort of patted themselves on the back for taking it to seven and I think it was a little bit of a handshake tonight on that front, but Draymond greens in there. I think he's an X Factor's is sort of the roundabout I almost forgot about Dre mom, I still you know, I don't think he's he's lost obviously some athleticism but I think that his game wasn't necessarily based on that. I think he's got a lot of IQ. I think he's got a ton of he does. He's got a ton of respect on the team. I think that Steph and clay use him to facilitate more than people realize I think that he played makes really well from the post. And I think that if I could pick any fucking player on any NBA roster to match up against him and a final series I would pick out Horford to be totally honest with you, because I don't know if you've been watching but Al's got some fucking Twinkle Toes used to coach so much. He's he's he's a he's a perimeter defender now you know and he went down really awkwardly one point tonight but I would just like to say you know, I say that for the end actually, I just just as a logical preview, I think Draymond Green I think we were able to suffocate him a little bit without like, like you've been watching and a little Robin Williams slides as well. I think that I need to tell the entirety of the Celtics fan base that when Steph Curry shoots it goes in a lot of a lot of a lot. Now what you do to beat the Golden State Warriors it's not it hasn't been done often but it's been done is especially with a healthy Steph and Clay What you do is you live with it. You live with it. You don't panic. Okay, and this is the Celtics team that I think is doing a really good job apart from a little little wobble tonight. Of not panicking. I just want the fan base to calm with on that okay, because there was a lot of us tonight saying it's okay will weather the storm Don't worry we've we've beaten off a few runs now. You know, we've we've weathered this we've made sure this hasn't happened. It's gonna be worse against the Warriors. Okay, it's gonna be worse. It is need everybody to hold their fucking nut sack and stop fucking freaking out in the foxhole. Because the Germans are going to hear us. Okay, so stop fucking panicking. All right, it's going to be fine. It's going to be fine. We have like Bobby said we're tools to them. And I'm confident in the Celtics anyway full preview next week with probably a different cast of characters that definitely want their chance to get in here and celebrate a great Easter conference win and they absolutely deserve it we'll be riding with them since they'll still

Rob Kelly: 54:46

be here. No I'll be

Dave Clarke: 54:50

fucking Perry chuckle Fox coming in here to be like what I would just like to say in closing and I'm going to give a little speech here and I'm gonna throw it over to you to finish it out. I would love with you have no I guess complaints about this. I would love to dedicate this show and dedicate this whole Easter Conference Finals championships it to Al Horford. I think this is a guy that nobody counted in as far as being a factor again in the playoffs. I think that a lot of Celtics fans when he left the Celtics and were they were just happy that he didn't do great on the Sixers. And that was enough for us and we were happy with him. He came back and he's been played such a huge part in this run. And I love the fact that game six against the heat he set the record for most teams played in the playoffs without going into a finals and that is a a badge that Al Horford does not deserve it by any stretch of the Imagination He does not deserve to be to be painted with that brush. And if you if you caught the video if you didn't go watch it after you listen to this amazing podcast of him going to a championship, you just go into a championship. He was very emotional on the floor and I'd love to hear your thoughts Bobby just on on in a basketball sense. What else was brought to this team? I don't think anyone can argue that we wouldn't be here without him right now. You know, I think there's been a lot of contributions but we would definitely not be here without Al Horford is three dried up a little bit on him tonight. I think you know, we could have been recruiting 30 points up that three ball was falling for him. You gotta get a lot of good open looks. So that's okay. It's a game seven of the final series we've seen where weirder things happen in that we saw James Harden's three fucking dry up when he knew he had been hitting it for an entire five seasons by that point. So don't worry about it. Just from a basketball sense. What do you think he's brought from a leadership sense? What do you think he's brought in? And can you believe when you went from when you heard that work for was coming back and that trade till now like, how big of a player he is in the NBA?

Rob Kelly: 56:42

Yeah. So it's, it's, you don't even need to give me a final thought because literally my final thought was gonna be about our how our Horford and the fact that this is his first NBA Finals, like exactly like you said, Man, I can't think of a player that deserves it more. Because when you think about it, it's almost shocking that Al Horford hasn't been to an NBA finals at this point and you know you think but team has been on you know, it does make the hawks and then that shitty Celtics team now shitty but shitty personality hurt compared to compared to this Yeah. And then the Sixers team and then to the thunder. It's just, it's crazy that a such a professional and such a winner. And such a dude with such a high basketball IQ hasn't been there yet. And I couldn't be more happy for him. To see that emotional response was so awesome man. But to talk about what he's done to this team and is is night and day from from what we were without him. You know what I mean? I feel like he's such a calming presence for Tatum and brown. And for Marcus like, he he's the reason why they don't have to think of their half the time. He's the reason why we have this defensive intensity that we do. It's unbelievable to see at that age, for him to have this kind of game for this extended stretch over this playoffs and at the end of the season was crazy to me, man. And to think back, like you said to the beginning, where we got him in that trade. No, I had no idea he would end up like this man. And I feel like a lot of it did have to do with the fact that he did get pretty much an entire year off. Before this season. I think that was so huge for like his knees, legs, all that shit. I heard I think those women said that before. But it's just it's so unreal, that we're at this point and Al Horford gets his champion or gets his championship appearance with with the Celtics in this this version of this team too. You know what I mean? Because he was the calming presence. Before you left, you remember against the Sixers, he hit that game seven game winning shot, where it seems like you're gonna blow that series to or not blow that game. And he gets that game winning shot and pushes us on to the next area as well. So it just seems like he's always played this role. And in you could see it from, you know, from our run on is he's been the most pivotal, important piece and the most common piece to this entire team. So our Warford man, we love you. We're so happy you're here. We're so happy that you're getting your Finals appearance. And I was gonna say, I think he's going to be huge. In his NBA Finals. This dude has weighed his entire career for this. And I think his play is going to show it and I can't wait.

Dave Clarke: 59:21

Yeah, I mean, I just think there's so many great emotional leaders on this team and I think that I think that was such a big part of it. I think a lot of people have been very vocal in that locker room about who he is and his veteran presence and what what he does for the team on off the court and I think yeah, he's gonna be literally and figuratively huge I agree with you then I'm just honestly from the bottom of my heart it's so fucking glad he found his way home because that man is a Celtic through and through. He is a Celtic study. He

Rob Kelly: 59:50

loves him too.

Dave Clarke: 59:50

Yeah. And he and he loves us back and his family loves us back and and and you know he's he's honestly right now he's Mr. Celtic to me. Agreed agree. I think he's I think Jayson Tatum is our best player but I think that that whenever the Celtics is a franchise, whenever they have a special team, they always have a guy like this man, I think you can point to a lot of championship DNA. A Hey Guys, guys like this and I honestly just want to say thanks to Al Horford and the whole Horford family for bringing me such such joy this season with the Boston Celtics because a you know in November, nobody would have predicted this. So yeah, thanks, guys. So to to sign off on that note, we're going to the ship where the Eastern Conference Champions Jayson Tatum is as Bobby tells me, the first ever recipient of the Larry Bird, Eastern Conference Player of the Season award very fitting that it goes to a Celtic and I just like to say thank you from the bottom of my heart to all the Celtics in their organization for all this joy and I just want to say I'm proud of you no matter what happens in the finals I hope we can bring home banner 18 Because I I thought I might have had to get a little older before I saw that but you know, thanks for getting us this close. And for the real BK Bob Kelly. I am DK sizzle. Thank you guys so much for listening. And we will be back next week with a big finals preview and we'll be here to hold your hand whether it's on the missing the point fee or the six one setting seven feed or on our Twitter at MTV pod or on our Instagram or wherever you can find us we'll be here riding this bandwagon that Bobby and I personally built with our own two hands. All right. Thank you guys so much. Tune in next week. Good night.