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Welcome into missing the point My name is Joe Malkin joined tonight by the real BK Bob Kelly, Mike Mark Angelo and our executive producer as always, Craig D'Alessandro, who is writing some kind of high. Tonight, we're here to talk to you about the Boston Bruins, who are currently in the second round of the Stanley Cup playoffs. And it's a very interesting format this year. But guys, let's get right into it this. This Bruins team is currently tied with the islanders in their series one to one losing game two and overtime the other night. The they battled back from a three one deficit. It may have been one nothing islanders at one point. But nonetheless, the islanders end up coming out of that game. four to three. Guys, we we have a lot of bright spots on this Bruins team and they're playing really well. And where we thought they were kind of falling off towards the end of the year. Bruce Cassidy has picked this team back up and they're clicking and firing on all cylinders. Mike, what have been your bright spots I don't I don't want to get I don't want to get to the dark spots yet I want to get to the bright spots.
Michael Marcangelo:The bright spot for this playoffs have been Tuukka Rask. And for those that have been listening, along the way, I have said that, you know, we can only go as far as he's gonna take us. And he's never shown up in this series. And in the last series, he has done what I asked what I asked him to do, he has been the reason that you have won the game he has saved he's single handedly saved you games. If you remove the fact that Brandon Carlo has a propensity to score in his own goddamn net twice. And then then Tuukka is playing great. Now. His deflections are tough. And those are not his fault. Right? I think that he, you notice it in I think it was the third period. But I think more more more. So it was the second period of game game two against the Islanders. He was under distress. his defense had collapsed in front of him. And he refused to let one in. So for me, that was for you, Joe, I think his i think i think he's he's the biggest the biggest brightspot I will say there's never been a goalie that I've ever I've ever known that if there's a breakaway, that there's going to be a goal, th en when Tuukka isn't that now I don't know if that's indicative of how I feel about him. Or if that's a real thing. I'm gonna choose to believe that it's how I feel about him. But in this series, actually like in this in this entire playoffs. So he's five and two, he stopped 214 out of 230 shots, 930 st percent is 2.06 goals against average. He's doing exactly what you need him to do. And I think coming into this playoffs, that was not something that I was ever prepared to say. So he changed my mind because he's done. That thing that that Tim Thomas did for us in 2011. The differences it doesn't look so flashy because he's always in the right spot. He's just always there. He has great positioning as a goaltender and I think for anyone out there that that was a Tuukka hater. I was the I was the proud starter and and flag waiver of the leader
Rob Kelly:of the anti fan club.
Michael Marcangelo:Yeah, I was that but if this is the playoff series, and this is a playoff, this is a playoff run. For me that changed my mind. I think we all Yeah, we all have a bad taste in our mouth what happened last year, but he can't deny the excellence that he's shown between between the goalposts is here.
Joe Malkin:Bobby I kind of the same question. But let's let's go with with the two conversation. I think Mike said it perfectly because like you said, He is the president of the anti tuca fan club. But But Bobby, what are your thoughts on tuca? And to add level to that? Do Do we need to see Jeremy swayman at this point,
Rob Kelly:I completely agree with Mike Tuukka has not only one new game so far this playoffs he kept you in games that you have no business being in that game to I guess the I wonder is that could have been five to one six to one by the end of that second period Tuukka kiddos and stayed on his head. So he's kept doing games. He's been everything you could ask. Like Mike said the only times that he's actually wedding goals is when his defenses flattened down so far this playoffs is literally either his defense is scoring on him or they're leaving the puck wide open in the middle is right in front of that so Tuukkagood to go has been unbelievable so far this playoffs without to grow. I don't know if we get by the capitals as easy as we did. And we definitely do not have a chance to come back in game two. I can guarantee you that. As far as my bright spot so far, man If the perfection line isn't living up to their name and the last week and a half two weeks of hockey I don't know what is watching them play hockey is honestly unlike any line I've ever seen. I've we've all been watching Bruins hockey for a long time. It can you guys remember a line that had this, this skill this when you see them at the top of their game, and they make the plays that they can make the passes and one timers it's just amazing. Seeing marshawn the pasta, same pasta the burgee like it's just unbelievable. So that's my brightspot Listen, I know they're supposed to do it. As Mike would say it's their job. They're supposed to do this, but like listen, I don't care they've been such a delight to watch and I know every single game we can count on them for two points. So that's my bread stop is that professional
Joe Malkin:The biggest thing for me when it comes to the perfection line and Tuukka is you know as you guys both just said to Tuukka has a tough time when his defense lets him down in my gear. You were absolutely right the other night when the islanders went on that break and won that game and overtime for three you know, you saw it coming and what's interesting is is nobody got worried because it's it's a one off thing that doesn't happen because this defense has been playing very well led by Charlie McAvoy which has been incredible, and that's my blind spot since you guys took the front part of the ice and the back part of the ice. I'm gonna go with the defense because Charlie McAvoy has been phenomenal and he also has the highest minutes average on the team right now in the series against the Islanders. He is deserving of his lifetime and he has stepped up since the departure and we've we've seen it all year. We saw it in the first years against Washington we've seen in this series against the islanders he has really stepped up since the Dana char left and it the argument can be made that the Dana Chara held him back and that's okay. That's okay that he did because they got to where they they did it now. He's He's really come out. Firing but you have McAvoy, you have Mike Riley, who has played well Brennan Carlo has done very well. Connor Clifton, though he's minus one. He has played very well. And the defense has been really good. And what's awesome to see is that Taylor Hall has been playing well on the offensive side. And the reason the perfection line has been able to keep live up to their name is because of the play of everyone on the ice. And that's what that's what hockey is about. Right? You're not it's about four lines. It's about three defensive pairings and a really good goalkeeper.
Michael Marcangelo:I mean through through what's it through seven games the perfection line has scored 23 points. That's ridiculous. I mean, led passion Okay, it's 10 points five goals five assists Bergeron, four goals, three assists and Martian four goals and two assists. I will say not to be not to be prickly. Joe, I think defense is the Bruins downfall right now.
Joe Malkin:It's been it's been the weak has been the weak point. But it's been good enough on the offensive end.
Michael Marcangelo:Yeah, I think yeah, that that's a perfect way to spend it, right? offensively. They're they're miles ahead of where they were years ago, even last year. But defensively, there they are. They are almost a liability.
Rob Kelly:I don't know if I got my ability to sing is is there Listen, they can make plays. And and and they do make great defensive plays all the time where you're like, Oh, my God, but they're caught out of position a lot.
Michael Marcangelo:What they lack in discipline they make up for in speed, but in a series against the islanders where the islanders have done a phenomenal job slowing them down. The discipline is what you need, right? Because you've seen it like in spurts, the Bruins and in game two, two shots, two goals to tie it up. So that when they have the ability to formulate a play, to have a good breakout out of their out of their defensive zone and across the neutral zone into the offensive zone, they can do it. But they need that synergy. And you know, I don't want to preview my negative or my, you know, my my bad spot here. But I think it's when speed is no longer a factor. When you play a team that has a forecheck that is consistently causing problems for you like the islanders do. You have to be disciplined on defense and what they what the Bruins have done so far. Again, it's one one so it's the world's not over. But it's scary because we've been talking about neutral zone turnovers for the last seven games. That's not going away. But the competition just getting better. So they need to figure that out.
Rob Kelly:A great a great The thing is though, is when you watch the Bruins team play is like that that game too. So yes, the islanders brought it to them, they brought the four check date, and that second period they worked the Bruins ass up and down the ice, and you can see it from minute one. But when the Bruins do play their game when they start playing the game that they can play there by Florida away the better hockey team. So what they what needs to happen is they need to play that fast up pace hockey, if they get caught in that slow grindy game with the Islanders. There's going to be a long series. I agree with you there. If they get caught in that kind of game. They're in trouble because that's not the team there anymore. It's just not.
Joe Malkin:That's where Barry trots is very good, is because he has five games of film on the Bruins against the capitals, who are a much different team than what the Islanders are right? The islanders can kind of flip the switch. They can play fast when they need to, but they can slow you down and they know that the Bruins want to play that fast paced game, and that's why the Bruins won that series against the capitals and we talked about it on our last hockey show was that the the Bruins can't necessarily match the physicality and the size of the Washington Capitals, but they can outpace them every day of the week. Whereas Barry trots islanders team isn't necessarily gonna out physical the Bruins because I think their players are pretty much on the same physical level. But but they can outplay you and those three issues that we wrote down and talked about was the camp not being able to handle the forecheck neutral zone turnovers and bad defense, bad defensive zone possessions on turnovers and trying to get on the transition. That's that those could be the three reasons why the islanders Win Win the series. And in game one, Mike won the neutral zone turnover and this one haunts me. Granted, it was only a few days ago, but that's what haunts me when the Bruins went on a line change in the while they were in the neutral zone and then went to dump the puck. And I can't remember who it was but he completely whiffed on it. And let probably correct it might have probably
Rob Kelly:arose on.
Joe Malkin:Right. Yeah, right. It was Yeah, it was on a Craig Smith. But either way, they just left the puck in the neutral zone on a line change. And I was like this, this is where this game goes downhill. And luckily it didn't in the Bruins gloom out of five to win that game one. And that's what that's the kind of games that the Bruins need to be able to play. And they need to not let this series get to seven games. Because if it goes to seven games, the islanders could take this because Barry trots is that good of a coach. And the Islanders are that good of a team to it and have handled the Bruins pretty much all season long.
Michael Marcangelo:Also, like as a disclaimer, just just because I said the ticker asked if there's ever been a goalie that had been more confident than for a breakaway, that's easy, that he's gonna lead up to a goal. That's true. I made it I feel it. I'm sorry if that upsets you that for those of you listening at home, but that was completely on the defense. That should have never happened, that should have never ever happened and to put your goalie in that position. And overtime after he saved your ass and billed you out time and time again, that's on you. It's not on him. I think this is like the cynic in music, make that stop. But in reality, you should never be put in a position to have to make that stop.
Rob Kelly:Especially the way they were dominated and that overtime too. Because if you remember prior to that that puck was in the brew was in the islanders ended the ice the entire overtime, I think we had six shots on net before they even had that goal. So it's like he the lack of being able to capitalize on those good opportunities, and just the careless turnovers when you're dominating the pace of play when you're dominating possession. And you have these careless turnovers. That's what ends up costing great hockey teams. And you end up losing teams that aren't as good as you that's that's what ends up happening.
Michael Marcangelo:One final bright spot is just the just that the mere notion of Taylor Hall. The fact that he's on the ice, the fact that he's on the ice is a problem, right because every time he has the puck, you think there's a chance that he can score and if we think that at home, God knows what the goat what the opposing goaltender things, because that that man, he feels like it feels like he's playing. He's on a mission. He's a plus minus is plus two, four points in the in these playoffs but the things that he's doing well, they don't show up, I guess Bobby would say like they don't show up on a statue. Right? He elevates those around him because he is who he is. And he's always in a position to either score or to put someone else in a position to score. So I think that's something that you have not had in Boston. Honestly since Sagan well he
Joe Malkin:also grinds away and eats up minutes. I mean, he's he's averaging the same amount of time on the ice, as the first line is, I mean, the second line, as much as we want to talk about that first line that that second line has been very good. And led by by Craig and Hall, and they're playing the same amount of minutes as the first liners. So so that's how that shows how much confidence Bruce Cassidy has in his team from top to bottom, which is a good confidence to have. But what really what really needs to happen for this Bruins team is they need to not allow this islanders team to figure them out. And Bruce Cassidy needs to make the adjustments needed and I think he can. But that brings me to this question of how far is this series going to go? How many games? Do we think this is going to go? We all pretty much call that first series saying five to six games. We nailed that.
Michael Marcangelo:I don't I don't see a way that I mean, I just think that the teams are so perfectly matched up against each other that this doesn't go seven now unless now barring like a horrific injury to one of the star players from from either team. But I think if you're a Boston Bruins fan like Anthony beauvillier, a, he is a problem for you. He is you know the left winger, from from the Islanders, nine points, four goals, five assists, and he's just always there. So don't pay attention to his plus minus b minus two. Right? Don't pay attention to that because that man is a problem for you. I think you similarly have problems that that you can cause for the Islanders. But I just think that first of all, Bruce Cassidy is a coach. I think he's phenomenal. I think he's the right guy for the for this team. I think that the Islanders are really well coached as well, the guy from from Washington that won the Stanley Cup back in what 2018. with them, he's, he's he's doing he's doing a great job. So I don't see a way that that this does not go seven. But I fundamentally believe that if you can just clean up your errors that are occurring in the neutral zone, like you need to you need to come out of your defensive zone cleaner. Your breakouts need to be better, because when they are you score, and if you don't score, you have far more offensive zone, possession time, and then the islanders do so if that's the case, and the Bruins won this series and seven, but you know, Craig Smith again, offensively, he's exactly what you need. But defensively, or just in the neutral zone, he's proven over the last, you know, seven games, six games when he was injured for one of them. He is in neutral zone liability. I'm throwing that word around a lot. But he is he's a problem. So but but if you fix that problem, I think, yeah, you can win this and seven. It's going to be a dogfight, though that there's no there's no way in my mind. And again, I've been wrong before I'm going to be wrong a lot again. These teams are so evenly matched in just different areas. So Boston's fat fast. The Islanders, they're not slow, but they're they are a they're kind of like the old school Bruins team, right? Not not like a 2011 team, but like a 2013 Cup run team, right? They have some speed, but they know how to discipline their opponent. And if you don't, if you fall into their trap, you are so screwed.
Rob Kelly:Yet, so I love that comparison. They remind me a lot of like that when we're deep in that clod dump and chase era where like, we're trading Sagan, we're trading superstar so we can fit this dump and chase identities I wonder do around me a lot of that team. I I kind of disagree. I think the Bruins, in my opinion, if they and I do think they will do this four more times in this series if they play their game. That's what game one was. When the Bruins play their game and play their style hockey. They're such a better hockey team to me than the Islanders, and they've so much more skill. And I like varoma if he was great last game. I don't think the islanders have enough to keep up with the Bruins. I think the Bruins win this. I honestly think game two is the only game that I want to just get because they dominated us once and they played much better than us. And it took a bad turnover in overtime to beat us. So to me, it's just like we don't even need to play our best hockey and we're still gonna be in Yeah, but if we do play our best hockey, we're going to beat them. And I don't think there's any doubt in
Michael Marcangelo:my mind. The Bruins were 3316 and seven. The Islanders are 3216 seven, or sorry, 3032. So they are the most evenly matched. Like this is a very tough. This is a tough matchup just for the parallels that they pose for each other. Right. And what I'm what I'm going to tell you right now, so bookmark it. I don't know what the timestamp is on this, but bookmark But, but bookmark this. If the if the islanders somehow beat the Bruins. Just remember, remember the fact that Matthew Barcel, the 23, the 23 year old center for the islanders put up 45 points this year 17 goals 28 assists. He was picked number 16 and a draft that you had number 1314 and 15. You missed on him three times. So if what a storyline
Rob Kelly:What a story. So I'm
Michael Marcangelo:telling you right now I don't even I don't even care how it was I'm going to tell you. He's you you had him three times and you chose to let him go. You have the replacement. For any second liner. You had the the guy that Patrice Bergeron could have mentored up as the grizzly veteran as a 23 year old and you chose. I just looked back at that draft. I think it was 2015 draft look back at it. Don Sweeney is not a good drafter but it was you had three picks 13 1415 and I think Charlie, I think Jake debrusk is the only starter got Coleman I
Rob Kelly:think we got Coleman
Michael Marcangelo:Nebraska Nebraska is the only guy that still there there's the fill time though that's that that's that's my that's my declaration to you our audience out
Rob Kelly:leave it to Mike leave it to Mike to find that that narrative very deep inside this series Mike's like listen, I'm just saying though, like this guy's got that revenge factor and it's gonna be the biggest mistake that Bruins ever made
Joe Malkin:to put a bow on it they did have 13 1415 they took Jacobs aboral Jake debrusk Nz vaccination and that Matt bars owl when 16 to the islanders so
Rob Kelly:that's rough that's rough. That's atrocious you can't do that but the brush but but at the same time does come listen. He had a terrible regular season. But he had he's one of the reasons we won that first round. So like you can hate on the brusque all you want. But like
Joe Malkin:what my mics right? Maybe the avalanche don't even be avalanche. I'm looking at their logo. Maybe the capitals don't even win that game and the Bruins sweep the series if if they have bars out, but point point being my Mike's Mike's not wrong. I don't want to say Mike's right, but Mike's not wrong. So I think this game this series go six games, I think the islanders sneak one more away, but I don't I don't see the Bruins losing this series, I think they are the better team, as Bobby said, and I think they can fix their mistakes. Now, if we go with the odds, favorites, and everything else and the leaders of most of these series currently going on, there's eight teams remaining from the four divisions you have the Winnipeg Jets and the Montreal Canadiens from the north division.
Michael Marcangelo:ends, man, like sorry, I don't mean to cut you off. I don't wanna I don't want to go down a rabbit hole. But the Toronto Maple Leafs are the biggest choke artists in the history of the NHL. I mean, they lost that series. Like Montreal is not a world. They're not they're not a world leader. Right? They're not the greatest team out there. And Toronto just choked it up. So a good you know, a good for Toronto, good for that rattle
Joe Malkin:hasn't made it out of the first round of the playoffs in 13 years. So I mean, that's just the way it goes. I there was some other stat about the last eight series. They haven't won a championship since they were only six teams. Well, right. Which different conversation that'll be for our NHL banding show. But if if things go So right now you have from the north division. You have the Canadians and who did I say the Jets? You have Winnipeg in Montreal. In the Central Division you have Tampa and Carolina. In the West Division you have Carol, Colorado and Vegas. And in the east, obviously Boston and New York. If the the I don't necessarily want to say the favorites, but the North division doesn't matter. So let's say the teams that are leading their series get through Tampa, Colorado, Boston, regardless of what happens in the north when they reseed based on what I just looked at, we would get Tampa and I think that's where the buck stops.
Michael Marcangelo:Yeah, but I just think like I, I just want to pump the brakes here like the book could stop here. I
Joe Malkin:understand that. I understand that. But I'm saying in a perfect world where we all just where we all just predicted that the Bruins are going to get out of this series. If they go to play Tampa, that's that's the worst team they could. That's the worst of the other six remaining teams that they could play.
Rob Kelly:Before before we go to that, right, so I want you guys to picture an alternate reality where that Taylor Hall goes in and that overtime, right, we're up to our right now. There's no chance that you guys are saying that we're gonna lose the lightning. Listen, it was only a couple days ago that we were talking that this that I don't know if it's just me, I think you guys agree with me that this team is different. But this team, it seems to have that fight. And we saw that in that last game, they played like crap, and still had five opportunities to win that game in overtime. to grasp is playing out of his mind. I just think in my opinion, this Bruins team is destined for something different. I'm not gonna say what I always like to say, but I just I just think I just think that the way you watch this team play, it just feels different. It literally feels like it doesn't two years ago, I did not have this confidence of a feeling. And we ended up in the cup. And we ended up losing but I'm just saying like the confidence and the feeling I have behind this team even being down three one was I was watching this game and I'm like, Listen, we're coming back in this game. I knew we were coming back. I was like perfection lads gonna get one only a matter of time. And then it was this team is different. They're just different. And I just think we win that game last game. There's no way you guys think the bros are gonna lose. Or even the series looking
Michael Marcangelo:forward. I get it so like Bobby remember like how excited you were like how gassed up you are that the perfection line is 23 points through seven games like It's good, right? Awesome. Nikita kucherov has 12 points by himself through six games and he's for Tampa Bay.
Joe Malkin:Tampa Bay team is is nasty and and they were the third team in their division.
Michael Marcangelo:So what I'm what I'm trying to tell you is is like they will be a problem if we get there to them. Now, if he's the right one here, sorry, eight games played three goals, nine assists. They have a defenseman on that team that has 10 points, and it's all assists. So I'm telling you, you know, Victor Hedman, that's gonna they will be a problem for you now. What you what you used to be able to do is beat them up. Let's just hope that you're fast enough. And you're you're a finesse enough team outscore them because, again, Craig, this could be your sound bite I'm going to tell you right now, Tuco will not be the reason that you lose that series. There's something in his head and might be swimming. I don't know what it is. He refuses to be the reason why you lose. So it might be your inability to handle the puck in the neutral zone. It might be defensive breakdowns in front of your own and in front of your own goaltender. But it won't be because of him.
Rob Kelly:And that's and that's to me the reason why I really do think we can get by them. Because listen to cook wasn't the reason we won two years ago. He was definitely the reason we lost. He was he was definitely the reason we won. If
Michael Marcangelo:you look back to if you look back his 2019 playoff run was fucking wild. It was he was unbelievable until game seven. But he was
Joe Malkin:unbelievable that entire round don't get to go to a game seven is basically what he's saying. But all I know is I don't want to see the Tampa Bay Lightning win the Stanley Cup because then New England is never going to hear the end of it with another Tampa team.
Michael Marcangelo:Is there just a way that we like? Is there any like Bobby likes to operate in alternate universes? Is there any way that we get a Boston Montreal stanley cup? Is that possible?
Joe Malkin:If they be Winnipeg, and I don't, I don't think it matters. I'd have to look at this again. And I don't mean to do this on the podcast and be like, Oh, I don't know what's gonna happen in the next round of the whole playoff release or when they get down to four teams they received so they go by points and everything. Yeah. So the way the way it went there is if I just closed out the standings, but basically that the Bruins then it was 73 points in the lightning and it was 75. And it just the way that matched up, they would have been the two and three. So but but the point is we don't want Tampa to win and I would really like to see Montreal in the Stanley Cup, but could you imagine so? Yes. That I the way it goes is yes, because they we I mean they've split the divisions in so many ways. So I mean, there's still a way based on the way the teams play that we can play the Tampa Bay Lightning in the Stanley Cup. So it all depends on how they do it. So they're not doing as a useless thing, because they can't because they have the north and the Central Division as well. So one last thing I want to bring up here, because I've heard this, this come out. And I've seen this on Twitter, in the game that the Bruins lost to the capitals, and in the game the other night they lost. And in some of the negatives that we've talked about the neutral zone turnovers, the bad offensive possessions in the defensive zone is that if this is what I've heard, I'm not saying this that if the dino Charo, were still on this team, those things would not be happening.
Michael Marcangelo:sure that that might be true, but none of the none of the offensive greatness from the different from the defensive would have happened either. So you just take what you can get. I personally, I would rather have defenseman that are that can score that pose a threat, I think that they can figure themselves out in terms of their neutral zone and abilities. And listen, if big z is here, is there is there any possibility that you have to islanders just standing in front of Tuukka? No, never, that would never happen. But I still think that the positives outweigh the negatives for our current crop of talent.
Rob Kelly:And not only that, so Tuesday, the Bruins brand new hockey right now does not fade today and recharge charger dinner chart in any way whatsoever. He He's a slower hockey player now like since 2013. You've seen him slow down five extra gears like he he's just not the same speed that he used to be plus what they're really missing. So what people mean when they say that is Kevin Miller needs to come back and be healthy. Because cuz you know, you know what else there's no way to Islanders are standing in front of that net if Kevin Miller's on that ice there. So yes, the data would be awesome. But Kevin Miller is the guy they're missing right now. I know he's been hurt all season. So they've been missing him a lot. But when you watch this team with Kevin Miller, and then you watch him without it's it's a whole different defensive group out there and, and having his prowess it's almost like the Shawn Thornton back into 2011 days, like, you know, he's gonna whoop ass when he's out there. And and he's not going to take shit from anyone. And I also think that has a big effect on Charlie McAvoy and the the way he's played so far in this playoffs because you've never seen him be this physical. But when Kevin Miller is active, it's a whole different guy out there. So to me, he's, if we're gonna, we're gonna go X Factor. He's my guy that we need Kevin Miller to come back if we have him.
Joe Malkin:It's a whole different ballgame. Yes, I hate to say this about the 14 year captain of the Boston Bruins, but all I know is that Zdeno Chara is sitting at home or playing golf some room and the Bruins are still in the playoff. So that's what we have to say about the Boston Bruins and where they are right now tied one one. If you're listening to this on Thursday, June 3 with the New York Islanders is game three is on June 3 between these two teams and it's been a fun NHL playoffs regardless of what series you're watching. It's been a lot of fun to watch and we're glad that we could bring you guys some some Bruins talk here on missing the point. And for Mike Mark Angelo the real became Bob Kelly Craig D'Alessandro our EP, my name is Joe Malkin. Thank you for joining us and we'll talk to you next time.