Check My Oil: UFC 292 Preview and Predictions

Dave Clarke: 0:13

Let's check my oil. Ufc 292, boston, massachusetts. We do a lot of Boston sports on this pod so I do think that this is apt. I do think it's a good card to be reviewing. I have the usual cast of Misfits and Nair DeWales on the show. Ben Peake, matt Wilcox this card's taking some hits. Boys, it's taking some hits. We've lost some key match-ups on it. You know Ian Gary was saying that he's pretty much carrying this card now and I find it hard to disagree with him wholeheartedly. A lot of washed up fighters Listen, I'm still going to pay the fucking money. I'm going to put it on. I just as exciting as Sean O'Malley is. When it's a main event of two smaller than medically advisable men, I just don't love it. So I am looking forward to the Ian Gary fight and I'm sorry if I sound negative, but I'm sure we can find some fun things, some front through lines in this bad boy as we go.

Matt Wilcox: 1:17

It's always these cards that we make our dumbest bets, so I'm excited.

Dave Clarke: 1:20

Yeah, I hear you have some who the fuck is that guy bets lined up for.

Matt Wilcox: 1:24

By the end of this podcast we're going to have a. Who the fuck is that guy parlay?

Dave Clarke: 1:28

That's cool. That was a really good impression, Matt.

Matt Wilcox: 1:30

I thought he was here for a second.

Dave Clarke: 1:33

Who the fuck is that guy? It's the guy that you're fucking up, guy. He immediately become Matt Damon in the department at the end.

Matt Wilcox: 1:41

I think it's going like Jack Sparrow on me. I really know it's happening.

Dave Clarke: 1:43

Yeah, no, that's accurate. Gerald Mirshart is on the pre pre lens, which is a real fall from grace, no kidding. And the guy he's fighting I'm only talking about this fight in the pre pre lens because Jared Mirshart is on it and he's a recognized name for the guys fighting is undefeated in the UFC. He's finished three guys since 2021. I don't know what's going to happen, but apparently Mirshart's on the decline. He's a heavy underdog, plus two 10, but there's the UFC veteran status. Matt, do you see any value in this bet?

Matt Wilcox: 2:22

No, not really. Mirshart took us for a bath the last time we thought so he's not going to get my money from me again. Yeah, and me and you disagreed and you were right and I was wrong, and that's fine. No, I'm a man, I'll take my losses when they come. But no, I don't see it here. I think it's all over, I think there's reasons on the early prelim and I think I just I don't see a lot of value. Yeah, it was. It was a Piper Joe Piper, a Piper the Piper demolished him.

Dave Clarke: 2:53

We need a word for the winged dinosaur, taradango. All right, that's a good one. Spell it.

Matt Wilcox: 3:03

No, yeah, I'm not going to go with Mirshart on this one, but talking about a fall from grace, I feel like we were just talking about him being a gatekeeper, and now he seems to be on the other side of the gate.

Dave Clarke: 3:12

Yeah, I think Petroski is a worthy value bet here. If you want to anchor him in a parlay, I think that might be smart. Ben, does it matter where you are on a card? Have you been I'm sure you've been up and down different cards at different prestige levels, does it? Does it affect you? Is it like how? Like I would imagine maybe, like oh, should I get a fight really early? Or like the time that you're like spending in the day thinking about it, or like the amount of eyeballs on it If you're more of a main event, like I know you've been up and down cards Like do you think about that stuff?

Ben Peak: 3:40

Yeah, funny, but your perspective on it changes.

Dave Clarke: 3:43

You want to stop fucking yawning, do you want?

Matt Wilcox: 3:45

me to run that one again who?

Ben Peak: 3:51

would do that. Yeah, but oh, I was going to say your perspective on it changes as your perspective on the sport grows, in my opinion. I remember when I was starting out and I had, I would get the line up a few, like a week or so before, and I'd be like I'm first or I'm second. I'd be like because, like because I was actually nervous. So then I'd get there and I'd be like I want to, I want to settle into the locker room. No, they pull you in there, like wrap your hands because you're the first to go and we're doing the fucking national anthem or whatever, and and you're like, fuck, you get your heart rate going, but then at least you're fired up for America. Yeah yeah, of course, indoctrination big key thing and he's sort of fighting. But then as my career went on and I was just kind of like a run of the mill thing and I like wasn't nervous going into it, and I would just be like, oh okay, yeah, I've got to fight in two weeks as guys while he's undefeated Great, cool, whatever. Let's fucking see how it, let's see what he's like. And but then I'd get there and I'd be like I wish I was earlier in the card, I wish they flipped it, I wish they did main event first, because then you have to sit around all night and you wait for all these fights. Just go home. No, I mean when, when you're fighting or when you're later on the car.

Dave Clarke: 5:18

Why'd you show up later now?

Ben Peak: 5:20

Yeah, you do, but you have to be there for the rules meeting. You have to get cleared by the commission. They've got, they've got to do medicals. It's like a whole thing that you've got to get there for you Like, listen, yes, you have to pay in the ass that you. Normally you do try to skip those a lot. I try to skip through rules meeting all the time. But I wasn't there, I didn't know, whoops Um, but I think, in the perspective that you're saying of, does it affect you to be lower on the card?

Dave Clarke: 5:51

Like would you, would it affect him? Would you think, because he used to be a main card guy Like yeah, yeah, at this point, fighting is so like.

Ben Peak: 6:03

Your ego is so involved, there's no way to escape it, and this is what these guys do for a living. So imagine somebody at your work was like you're not as good as you used to be. You're going to be. You're going to be a PA again, dave? No, I don't. Yeah, dude, this would fucking suck.

Dave Clarke: 6:23

Are you still fighting the UFC, right, I wonder? I mean, I guess this is like the deadly. You can guess what. The answer to this is based on data. Whites like entire personality, but I do they get less money than they've gotten before. Like are they put a contract in front of you where it's like, well, it's just a pre pre lim, fight bro. Like you're just not getting that same show money that you used to get. I wonder, like, once you hit a certain threshold, usually like like you're saying in the real world, if you hit a certain threshold to payment, it's people aren't pulling it back because you suck they, just you're.

Matt Wilcox: 6:53

I wonder what the contract looks like, Cause I know that they give the multi fight deals, but it must be. It must matter whether it's a fight night or if it's an actual UFC event.

Dave Clarke: 7:02

if you're early, it must vary, I don't know if the early prelims are eligible for bonuses. Either I don't know if they're eligible to like win fight of the night or, like I know, they're eligible for fight of the night. I know Really. Cause like not enough eyeballs are on them, so I would just I know I know, but you know what?

Matt Wilcox: 7:18

That, if it, when it does happen rarely that works today and has benefit, because now he's got some dog down there in the early prelims that he's going to hype up big time, bring them up out of nowhere, which he loves to do. Yeah no, I wouldn't you think so. Here's my thing, Meershark, like just a slow, slow decline into irrelevance. I bet this is going to be the hardest fight he's ever had. He must be like on the brink of just like fuck this, what am I doing here? Yeah Well, there's people still finding their seats. That guy's eating popcorn. Nobody's around him. It's just wonderful.

Dave Clarke: 7:51

I feel like the strip club. We watched Ben beat that guy open.

Matt Wilcox: 7:54

Yeah, but that was awesome.

Dave Clarke: 7:56

It's like the Ben's early career was a lot like the end of the wrestler starring Mickey Rourke. It's like Jesus Christ. Where are we?

Ben Peak: 8:05

It's funny because, I just looked up, I was trying to find video on that the other day because, like, I have so few video of my fights. I have lots of pictures here and there but, like video is very hard to come by, especially because we're ancient.

Dave Clarke: 8:18

So like, yeah, I was going to say, if it was, if you were, if you were starting your career now, if you were 19. Now all your fights would be taped and you would have a whole archive of it, because it's so cheap and easy to tape fights. I would have videos of it, but I'm pretty sure, like you were the one with the best phone at the time as far as cameras go.

Matt Wilcox: 8:34

The creepy phone the sideways camera.

Ben Peak: 8:36

Yeah, you could.

Dave Clarke: 8:38

Blair Witch it. You could like flip it and it would look like a Blair Witch and, honestly, I bet we would be shocked at how low quality those videos actually were. But it didn't have access to that kind of stuff like as like 4k video on our phones. That wasn't a thing we were doing, holy shit man.

Ben Peak: 8:52

It is funny and, honestly, thank God. I can't imagine if I was 17, 18 years old, unable to record and upload my life like that to the end.

Dave Clarke: 9:02

Imagine what my school would have been like. Imagine every any mistake you ever made. If you made a big embarrassing one. It lives forever on the internet. That's I don't know. I wouldn't leave the house.

Ben Peak: 9:13

I just did that to that poor girl today.

Dave Clarke: 9:18

I thought he was getting scammed by a bot today and because this girl was like hey Ben, how do you remember me? And he was like no, she was like we know each other. I do only fans. You can send me some money and I'll let you in. And he was like this is obviously a body, was like how do we know each other? And before she answered, he posted screenshots of it on the internet and then she went on to prove that she was really this girl that we did actually all remember and did go to our high school and answered all the questions correctly. Ben was like fill out this, prove you're not a Roma robot.

Ben Peak: 9:52

Recapture she did, she did. I was like oh fuck.

Matt Wilcox: 9:58

Yeah, the best part is just been retracted. Does he? Does he delete it? Nope.

Dave Clarke: 10:03

No, you got to double down, dude Come on.

Ben Peak: 10:05

You just got to bite the mouth guard and swing back.

Matt Wilcox: 10:08

And as I get bigger, a big old, you're welcome for the promotion.

Dave Clarke: 10:12

Yeah, Honestly, it might have brought traffic to the OF dude a bunch of people.

Ben Peak: 10:17

A bunch of people messaged me that we went to high school with Greg Jacobs, stuff, like and like brother 10 bunch of people and they were like oh, I know this girl, she's gone crazy now, like all this stuff.

Dave Clarke: 10:31

So I love how she messaged you, like one kind of innocuous paragraph, and you've now put her on blast on your Instagram and your podcast it's, it's, it's, it's a miracle work. Man, you're doing the Lord's work. Speaking of speaking of only fans, though, pay. You know, Paige Van Zand's wife is a fighting on this. I mean Paige Van Zand's wife, I mean Austin Hubbard's fighting on this card. Yeah, yeah, that's it. That's him right, Am I? Am I like completely?

Matt Wilcox: 10:59

confusing him with Austin Vander Ford.

Dave Clarke: 11:01

Oh, I thought it was page van Zand's way.

Matt Wilcox: 11:03

No, no, no, that's a fair. I mean yeah, because who knows who the hell he is? No, but that kid, he just lost a belt fight in Bellator.

Dave Clarke: 11:11

Okay, fair, actually pretty good. Yeah.

Matt Wilcox: 11:14

He doesn't actually seem all that bad, Really good wrestler, really strong wrestler Austin Wait wait, who do you mean Ben?

Dave Clarke: 11:20

Do you mean, that page van Zand's wife is good?

Ben Peak: 11:23

Page van page van Zand's wife. I don't know any of the people on these cards, I mean but you've heard of page van Zand's wife.

Dave Clarke: 11:29

Yeah, yeah.

Ben Peak: 11:30

Because he paid fans as wife I would have never heard of him.

Dave Clarke: 11:34

I, how do you feel about that? Like her, only fans right Is gonna be bringing in conservatively, conservatively 20 grand a month yeah, the most money in the house, conservatively.

Ben Peak: 11:47

Probably 50. But not even the most money in the house. That's not that low.

Dave Clarke: 11:51

Yeah, yeah, let's say it's 50. Let's say she's making 50 grand a month. She's definitely making like life changing money, comparatively especially to what she was making to get her fucking face punched in the UFC. Mm-hmm, you're the husband and he's sometimes an actor. He's the only fans and it's like oh, is he? Yeah.

Matt Wilcox: 12:10

Oh yeah, he's in the frost of dawn on everyone's morning.

Dave Clarke: 12:12

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I saw I saw him like responding to Twitter trolls about it being like dude, I can, like I just I know you're a professional fighter and you could beat up like 99.9% of the people's high on shit to you about your wife, but, bro, your wife's titties are still on the internet. Dude, don't do that yeah. I mean, I'm all for female empowerment from his perspective, Like what do you say I'm looking at some?

Ben Peak: 12:35

lawyer.

Matt Wilcox: 12:36

My wife's a lawyer. She's probably going to be a judge someday and I've been begging her to do just a feed account forever. She will not budge.

Dave Clarke: 12:45

I mean, the money is good, you know, if you didn't have to go to work anymore. You just find a place to compartmentalize that. I feel like you know just somewhere If it's working, if it's working for you, man, that'd be such dope money just to like post pictures. Sweet sweet, sweet money. Sweet sweet, sweet money. And I'm under the impression those guys, the feet guys, they're the ones that are going to part with their death. Oh yeah, they really need an eclectic collection. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like I'm bored with those toes. I need different toes.

Matt Wilcox: 13:17

You know they're nuts. They got a real. This rifle is mine kind of mentality. How about it?

Dave Clarke: 13:23

I got to know like we need to be like optioning studies of where are these fetishes. I'm not kink shaming, Like you do your thing, but we got to be optioning studies on like where are these?

Ben Peak: 13:30

fetishes. Funny, it's funny. It's a. That's a funny one. That's definitely a funny one. I've got to roll with it. People who take that too seriously that drives me nuts.

Matt Wilcox: 13:39

You know it's one of the funniest ones that you could have, and they're the ones that get so fucking touchy about it, like you know it's funny they're feet, those worst ones.

Dave Clarke: 13:46

Did you watch that documentary about, like the fact that, like the tickle, people are basically the Illuminati? Yeah, like you try to get into, like what the tickle world does, like they fuck with you, like they start coming for you and shit like billionaires.

Matt Wilcox: 14:00

I just want to tickle what was the furries? Yeah, it's like dark. Dark invites dark corners of the internet.

Dave Clarke: 14:07

Yeah, yeah, it's like eyes wide shut too it's about to get. I got a hairball. It's about put my life on pause, pa WS, cause I got to go get it. Um, yeah, that's. I mean I don't know where that comes from, though. Like, where does that fetish come from? I don't, I don't. I don't know what the etymology of your fet is. But before we talk about Austin Hubbard, who apparently apologized to Austin Hubbard, you are not Paige Van Zand's wife. I really thought you were. I thought that was his name.

Matt Wilcox: 14:38

No, he's Willem's.

Dave Clarke: 14:40

No, I now know who Austin Hubbard is. I've remembered since looking him up, Um before that, the Ultimate Fighter 31 finale, very underwhelming season of the Ultimate Fighter. Thinking that you were going to have Connor McGregor on a reality show was going to make it good. It was not good, it's not good. It was very clear that he was there 10% of the time that Michael was there and they weren't getting a lot of footage that they could really use. That was going to be awesome to like put in the show and he wasn't like doing any con like vintage Connor McGregor stuff and there was some funny lines and everything. But like I could tell they're really grasshopper straws. I'm pretty sure he all his prospects lost, not one one. A fight.

Matt Wilcox: 15:18

I think he won his last guy won one fight, yeah, because they gave him one of the other guys. Yeah.

Dave Clarke: 15:24

They gave him one of the established dudes, the guy that's in the final. So it Brad Katona is now his. He's already won the Ultimate Fighter. I'm not sure why you can do it twice, but he's already wanted and he's on team Connor. But they had to, like it was like a school ground rules when, like, your team is just getting dominated so bad, you have to give them one of your good guys so that, like it becomes somewhat competitive.

Matt Wilcox: 15:46

Yeah, we just doesn't do that in Pop Warner sometimes. Yeah.

Dave Clarke: 15:49

Yeah, well, brag about it. Yeah, yeah, that happened all the time. Our Pop Warner team was a lead. I bet it was.

Matt Wilcox: 15:58

actually it was it was wiki the kids that we had in our LNG school.

Dave Clarke: 16:02

I bet our shoes bring. Pop Warner team was pretty fucking good, or Ford college.

Matt Wilcox: 16:08

Do you want players? If you count on no, thanks to you.

Dave Clarke: 16:12

You don't count, sean, though, because you only went to a D2 school. Okay, take it, sorry. D3. No, d2. D2. Merrimack.

Matt Wilcox: 16:21

Defensive player of the year Two years in a row.

Dave Clarke: 16:23

Yeah, yeah, he was fucking agent, okay. So anyway, cody Gibson and Brad Katona are fighting one another. Brad Katona is 12 and two. Cody Gibson is 19 and eight. Then odds are like I couldn't really find I don't know like what. I couldn't find it on my usual betting site. I don't know why the odds makers haven't made it yet. Maybe it's because it's like something to do with the show. Could you find odds, matt?

Matt Wilcox: 16:47

No, it's because Cody just fought under the 15th and he literally just stepped in. He was in the ultimate fighter. So it's a. There's no odds out yet and I can't. It's not available on fan duel or on draftings at this moment, but they should be fighting. They should have him by Friday. What do you think is going to win? I'm going to go with Cody Gibson, just based on his submission when he looked really good. Obviously he was fighting a nobody, but it was. It was a really really dominant ground performance by him and Brad Couturn just ain't shit. Who the fuck is that guy?

Dave Clarke: 17:22

I mean he's younger and he's he's got a better record in the UFC. Yeah, he's a little fella.

Matt Wilcox: 17:26

He's a little fella, do you?

Dave Clarke: 17:29

know anybody that was ever on the ultimate fighter.

Ben Peak: 17:32

Oh, dude, I know a actual, real like predator who is still climbed the ranks, Things day and similar kind of ranks of well that's that's like shuts off his camera.

Dave Clarke: 17:51

He, he's a cop now too, if you can imagine that, and he got so for context, ben's old, old, old old Jiu Jitsu coach and trainer and he was very good at Jiu Jitsu, right.

Matt Wilcox: 18:04

Fantastic coach.

Ben Peak: 18:06

Yes, he was good at Jiu Jitsu himself, but more more over, he was an amazing coach, yeah.

Dave Clarke: 18:14

Um, which is great for him into doing the moves If you yeah, yeah, oh gosh. So anyway, it turns out that guy went on the ultimate fighter Every fights, every fight starts standing up and he got fucking one of the worst knockouts I've ever seen.

Matt Wilcox: 18:31

Well, but let's, let's try this. I mean, he demolished that kid in the first round, like really really had his way with him, and then got a little too cocky and got slept on it doesn't matter, you got to go look up.

Dave Clarke: 18:41

If you're listening to this, go go look up dance. Similar ultimate fighter knockout. It's the only time I've ever seen Quinn rampage Jackson look like genuinely worried about something.

Ben Peak: 18:50

Oh, my God.

Matt Wilcox: 18:51

All you have to do is type in worst UFC knockout ever and it pops up.

Dave Clarke: 18:55

Yeah, um, that was bad. And then, uh, yeah, it turned out later he was a fucking predator for underage girls and now he's a cop. So Ben knows, somebody that was on the ultimate fighter not the most glory, glory filled performance, uh, from from Dan, but uh, I also never really liked that guy I also also separately.

Ben Peak: 19:13

I sparred with that kid Um pretty recently. Who's on this season right now? Who?

Matt Wilcox: 19:19

Yeah, you knew I wasn't Kid who just Go ahead, the kid who just he?

Dave Clarke: 19:30

just Rico Rico is his name, he just yeah, he was good.

Ben Peak: 19:36

He did like the double hand punch and everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Matt Wilcox: 19:39

Real good yeah.

Ben Peak: 19:40

Real good, real good, striking as well, which I run into a lot less with pure MMA guys but, that dude was down to bang. Um, and yeah, no, he was good Sweet.

Dave Clarke: 19:53

Um, okay, kurt Halliba, hallibaugh, yeah, and Austin Hubbard also never was a favorite. Um, he's won, like all the UFC fights, I think, maybe, what, maybe lost one, and then this hall of a guy is fighting his own five in the UFC. So I think it's actually there's some Hubbard's never been knocked down, never been knocked out. If it becomes a battle of conditioning, I feel like he'll win this, maybe, maybe over. I would take like over two and a half rounds or I would just take Austin Hubbard on the money line. I think that would that would that would start you all in good stead on Saturday. Um, I would probably. Just because they haven't made the odds, I would probably stay away from that ultimate fighter finale, because there's just too much. It's the fucking circus. And I do you know if Connor and Chandler are going to Boston? Probably Chandler, I would imagine, because he's got, I imagine. I think they both have to be there, probably contractually. Do you think they're gonna fight? Uh, I think they're gonna fight. I think they're gonna fight.

Matt Wilcox: 20:50

I think they're gonna fight. I think they both have to be there, probably contractually, do you?

Dave Clarke: 20:53

think they're gonna fight.

Matt Wilcox: 20:55

Uh yeah, I mean Connor said December, for sure. I think he was trying to shake out of it, because it's just a boring fight. Nobody wants to see it. Yeah, much rather fight you for a fake belt.

Ben Peak: 21:06

Um, it's a boring fight, dude. I wanted to see it.

Matt Wilcox: 21:08

Connor's gonna get fucking trash oh cars, cars gonna be cars gonna beat Michael Chandler real bad. It's a bad matchup for Chandler. Like every time he comes up against a really fast, like well-tuned striker, he's gonna get frustrated, he's gonna rush in, he's gonna get slept Um. The gate she fight. I'm far more interested in because I think Justin geese, he's gonna put him in a fucking box, just bang him. I think that's gonna be the end of Connor in the UFC. The the gate she fight.

Ben Peak: 21:34

That we get probably more being the end of Connor in the UFC.

Matt Wilcox: 21:38

No, he's gonna fight, he's gonna fight boys boys. You're never gonna fight again. Here's what's gonna happen.

Dave Clarke: 21:44

Don't say that here's what's gonna happen. Here's what's gonna happen. Don't worry, because pop is here to tell you what's gonna go down.

Ben Peak: 21:50

Let's hear this. I can't wait.

Dave Clarke: 21:52

He's gonna knock Michael Chandler out in the first round. He's gonna sign up to fight Justin geesey. He's gonna knock Justin geesey out in the first round. Oh, he's gonna be the guy. Okay, they're gonna drag Nate Diaz's corpse Back into the UFC for the super fight that everyone's gonna realize very quickly that Nate is aged out of. He's gonna finally knock out Nate Diaz. He's gonna knock out Nate Diaz's corpse and he's gonna be the third round. Then he gets shot at whatever title, at whatever weight class he wants. If there's a vacancy, they should do him and Dustin Poirier for the actual three. Because that wasn't a win, that was fucking stupid. Or fight Leon Edwards, he starches him too. So don't worry. Don't worry. The greatest comeback in sports history is on Um, oh, speaking of comebacks, chris wideman.

Matt Wilcox: 22:44

No.

Dave Clarke: 22:46

Doesn't make you feel like a thousand years old. Like I remember, I feel like it was the other day that chris wideman was the best guy, or like one of the best guys out there, and now he's plus 225 against brad tovaris. He's 39. He's coming off a bad injury.

Matt Wilcox: 23:02

One of the worst I've ever seen.

Dave Clarke: 23:03

That was it's really, really the leg break.

Ben Peak: 23:06

Yeah. Yeah it's been that long since he's in Boston.

Matt Wilcox: 23:09

He broke it in Boston.

Dave Clarke: 23:11

God, really. Yeah, that's mean to make him fight here again. What if it happens again?

Matt Wilcox: 23:18

Why is this happen? I don't want to watch chris, my wife, and fight. Why are they doing this?

Ben Peak: 23:23

I mean for the same same reason that mark colman is fighting again. Um, I don't know, you don't know. You're such a casual, both of you are such casuals. Mark colman was like the one, one of the. He fought fade or he fought. He fought a who's who in In pride and then came over to the ufc, fought in pride. He's dude From the. It's crazy because he looked. He looked older in the ufc but he was still juiced up, um, and now he's fighting. I don't know what he trains with matt brown. Um, do you more love matt brown? Yeah, I love matt brown. He's, he's. He's a super tough guy. I'm always excited to see him fight. Dude, you should see mark colman train. He loses shadow boxing matches and I don't say and I don't I. I don't say that to be funny. There are there is. There is more than one video of mark colman going out to shadow box and tripping, and it's happened more than once. They let more than once dude, don't, do not. I can't imagine how many times that actually happens.

Dave Clarke: 24:32

And he's fighting again. Matt brown was on the ultimate fighter right. Yeah, I watched the video of him. I think it was him where on tiktok yeah, where they yeah Because that guy was like yeah, yeah, we definitely have to save al go, but it's like this. That taller guy was like I'm fucking with him, I'm gonna keep like messing with him, and now I know him in his head. Brown was like just came out and savaged him Because he's the elbow guy, right, he was yeah something's chewing tobacco right, it was like.

Matt Wilcox: 25:00

It was like, uh, like lime juice.

Dave Clarke: 25:03

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He like lemon, he lemon just chewing tobacco. He was like I'm a southern boy, you don't do that southern boy it's, and I'm like, I'm serious, that's the wrong dude, I think he's serious.

Ben Peak: 25:13

Yeah, oh, dude, he's, he trains out of, uh, or he does his strength work out of west side barbell, which I think is uh. I mean, it's rare and Possibly if he was a younger guy I'd say that's possibly not the best idea. But west side barbell is the home of the late louis simons, who is like the powerlifting king, like if you look up west side barbell, that is Old school out in the middle of nowhere, ohio, like hard guy shit, and that's where matt brown trains most of the time. That's cool, that's what he does, yeah, yeah.

Dave Clarke: 25:46

I like that. Yeah, I like that. Matt brown is just like he's just getting better with age he's just getting more seasoned as the years go on. He's just like because it's like you can make him a gatekeeper, but you don't like nobody wants to fight him. It's like you could probably, if you have enough talent, you could probably beat him, but it's not gonna be fun and I love guys like that. You're gonna be in fight every time it's. It's like the exact opposite of what's his name on smiling sam alvi and you're just watching him like move and you're like dude. I don't even think you should be a professional athlete in like any Fucking sport like this is bad.

Ben Peak: 26:20

I loved his Like very, very short ascension in the fall from grace on reddit.

Dave Clarke: 26:27

Yeah, you know, no, no, no, he came smiling sam alviere talking about here?

Ben Peak: 26:32

What do you say? We're talking about sam alvi. Yes, smiling sam alvi. He uh like a nice guy, he can't. No, he seems like a douche. And he came on. He came on reddit and, uh, and he tried to garner some, you know, some favor with everybody on the on the internet. And he was like hey, it's me, I'm a real ufc fighter here, da-da-da. And people were like, oh, that's cool, sam. And then he fought a couple more times it's awful, did some stupid promos on there and everyone was like fuck, you, get out of here.

Dave Clarke: 27:00

He never. He doesn't post there anymore. It's hilarious reddit. I'll fucking turn on you, don't? You don't try and garner favor with a bunch of virgins.

Ben Peak: 27:07

Yeah, I was just gonna say.

Dave Clarke: 27:09

Bunch of nutcases. Average redditor. Average redditor has opinion about high-level athlete. Um, anyway, chris wyman and brad to varus don't bet on chris wyman. If he wins, he wins. He's definitely reached higher heights than brad to varus ever has. I don't think either of these guys are good. Um, I would. I would probably stay away from this one, matt.

Matt Wilcox: 27:29

I'm gonna go with to varus. Um, I'm gonna make it Part of some sort of an early card parlay, I think. Uh, opposite the one I mean you were talking about. But, um, I just I've never been more sure that I don't want to watch somebody fight in my life. So don't you, don't, aren't you?

Dave Clarke: 27:43

gonna be. Kind of the problem I have in a situation like this is like I know that like my instinct is gonna be to cheer for chris wyman Because of like the comeback nature and the underdog nature of the entire thing. And I know at his peak he was kind of a tool but like I don't know, coming back from that leg break. If he comes back and looks good from that leg break, it's encouraging for our other friend.

Matt Wilcox: 28:03

So that is true. That is true. Yeah, I you know you're probably right. I do want. I just don't want to see him get hurt. That's what. I think they're putting up against putting him up against this guy.

Dave Clarke: 28:15

I don't think he's got it in there. Fuck it, fuck it. I'm gonna you know what Fuck it?

Matt Wilcox: 28:18

I'm just gonna go wide man for the win. Yeah, let's just see that's more special, that's more fun.

Dave Clarke: 28:23

Ride the wave, ben. What was your worst ever injury Like in inside a fight? I remember that time he lost his tampon and never mind. No, I bet it was that that cut on your head.

Ben Peak: 28:40

Maybe my cut?

Dave Clarke: 28:40

yeah, because that was my cut like it's like it's his friend that he lives with. Yeah, yeah, it did look like a mouth.

Ben Peak: 28:50

That was that was big dude and I remember somebody commented on the video I can see his thoughts in there and that's when I got really into tech and how to track IPs.

Dave Clarke: 29:07

That's the funniest shit I've ever heard my life.

Ben Peak: 29:11

I can't stand that so many of the things have like gotten to me even recently are good jokes and I'm like I wish. I was like son of a bitch. That was fun.

Dave Clarke: 29:29

You can see his thoughts in there. Oh, you know what, though? At least we know that they're relying because you do not have any of those. God, that's so funny. I wish that guy was here. He sounds hilarious. Um, I can see his thoughts. It was me on a burner. I used to troll Ben's videos. That's my actual video. My actual comments would be that's my buddy in full support, and then it'd be like toe tapping. 97 says I can see his thoughts. I'm not a fucking loser, dave. You forgot to switch your counts.

Matt Wilcox: 30:05

Sorry.

Dave Clarke: 30:08

Sorry, dude, I'm just trying to draw traffic to your page. Bro. Cheeto versus Pedro Munoz. Cheeto, a man that's defeated the headliner on this card emphatically, in fact. Uh, and a real fall from grace. A real fall from grace for cheeto. He was one of the best bantam waits in the world not too long ago. I think he's pretty mid. You think he's mid? Yeah, because he wants to Corey Sandhagen, like everybody loses to Corey Sandhagen. Yeah, that's like no, I just think in general, that's all you have. He's mid Is this Gen Z does podcast. No, no, he Mid On God, mid On God.

Ben Peak: 30:53

Yeah, he obviously is good, but like his stand up looks way too stiff for me.

Dave Clarke: 31:00

He knocked out. He knocked out Dominic Cruz right.

Ben Peak: 31:03

Yes, he did, he caught him with the, he set him up. Well, like really well he's obviously good, but so I mean he's clearly not mid. I really don't like him as a person and he wears and he gets. There's this one brand of clothing that I was really obsessed with for a while and he knows, this is a left turn. What do you say? This is a left turn, yeah, yeah, and he knows the owner and I see him getting it for free all the time on his Instagram.

Dave Clarke: 31:33

And it all comes around now. Now we understand why Ben hates fan favorite Marlon Chito Vera. I knew there was a root cause and there's somewhere in the psychotic brain of yours. I just couldn't see inside because he got that wound closed Eventually. It was bad. If you guys want to Google Ben's cut, it's on the internet. It looked like a pair of Joe Clips that you put on a Mr Potato Head doll. It was planted in the middle of his forehead. I think there's actually some value with Pedro Munoz here. He was looking competitive with Sean and Mali when he fought him. There was a no contest. Marlon Vera has been out for a few months because he went through that brutal five round battle with San Hagen, as mentioned, I think. Yeah, munoz lost some fights, but the roster guys he's lost to Sterling, edgar, aldo, dominic Cruz, like these are names. No shame in losing to most of those guys. There's a little bit of shame in losing to Dominic Cruz, I think in the modern era. Can we talk for a second, actually as a quick aside, about how f**king piss poor the commentary's been on these UFC cards recently?

Matt Wilcox: 32:42

Unbelievable when they're f**king.

Dave Clarke: 32:44

First of all, they all have clear favorites. They all have these fighter meetings and they obviously have when they're talking to people, or they know them or they're like it's a small community and they've trained with them, or whatever. They have clear f**king favorites. They're making absolutely no effort anymore to hide their bias and they'll sit there and be like for three rounds, be like, yeah, f**king, mike's doing great. And it's like, first of all, huge pet peeve. Please say the name of the fighter that's on the f**king screen, because when you're going well, mike was doing good, but Joe is doing a little bit better it's like a little frustrating when I have no idea who these two f**king guys are, because they're on the pre pre-limbs and I gotta like Google it Firstly. Secondly, you're trying to know Michael f**king Bisbing. And like I mean I hate to even say it Daniel Cormier has really dropped off. And like the secondary guy that isn't, that isn't the main play by play guy with the f**king he's. I'm blanking on his name now.

Matt Wilcox: 33:30

John Anik, it's not John.

Dave Clarke: 33:31

Anik, the guy who's not, john Anik, who sounds kind of more polished, but he's actually not. It's just like I, just it's. It's been bad, it's been bad, the judging's bad, the refereeing is not much better and the Foggan commentary hasn't been greatly lately. I just think we need to like up the product around around the bend. I don't want to hear from Michael Bisbing, or f**king or or Dominic Cruz, dominic Cruz in that flat monotone that he uses to comment, commentate on fights, and he's like he just says the most ridiculous sh**, because I just don't think he sees the world the same way as everybody else. Yeah, they've, like, they've, they've. Honestly, I think he, I think he needs to go and get checked for autism. I think, if, I think, if we start there, I think that would be a good start.

Matt Wilcox: 34:10

He's one of those guys that, like, does too many wellness classes and sh** you know right. So he has a different perspective, but he's actually says everything with such extreme confidence.

Dave Clarke: 34:18

Yeah, like every word out of his mouth is 100% a fact because he said it and it's just frustrating. You know, rogan does the same thing. Rogan does it to the degree where he's getting people killed for not taking f**king vaccines, but it's it's more offensive on a f**king fight card. I'm just trying to relax on a Saturday and watch some violence, but Matt do you think?

Matt Wilcox: 34:37

I think Rogan is the best one.

Dave Clarke: 34:39

He actually is he actually is the best commentator that I hate other than John and John, and it's a real class act.

Matt Wilcox: 34:45

John might be one of the best sports. I agree. He's unbelievable.

Dave Clarke: 34:50

He's got a 99 mile an hour fastball. Bring back Mike Goldberg.

Ben Peak: 34:54

That guy.

Dave Clarke: 34:55

He was a character, isn't he a Bellator? No, he's probably not anywhere. He, I think, was really synonymous with with like a lot of the, the prime UFC years, like that kind of. Here we go, like that he was like bringing, that he was the spike TV guy. Now they need to be in guy. I get it. Do you?

Matt Wilcox: 35:16

do you agree with me that there's any value in any of these bets on Munoz, matt, or maybe, like I, I'm totally with you and you know I don't think you get to take anything away from Cheeto for that loss to San Hagan. Even though it was a split decision, san Hagan, like, won that fight. It wasn't really that close he was. I mean he, literally Cheeto did not know what to do in that fight. He did not know how to get through to him, didn't know how to close the distance. Pedro Munoz has has fought a lot of really good fighters and he has not looked bad really against any of them. The Dominic Krusting it is what it is Dominic as dumb as he is, he's one of the most seasoned fighters at the weight class. So I really do think there is some value here at 160 for Pedro. Cheeto is kind of a head case too, so that loss probably is weighed on him a little bit. I don't know how he responds to that. So I'm going to I it's a close one for me, but I think I'm going to go with Munoz on this.

Dave Clarke: 36:08

All right, I think there's some value in that underdog bet. Also, where were we? Ian Gary and Neil Magni? Jeff Neil is out, neil Magni is in. I like Neil Magni, I'm a fan. But good God, ian Gary is a minus 420 favorite, neil Magni is plus 320. Ian Gary is not that good Like five for all intents and purposes. Like we're making him a minus 420 fucking favorite in a fight against his first name, pretty much Like his first guy that anyone's ever heard of. I know he's coming off. He's coming in on short notice. I know Ian Gary's undefeated but like we're all in agreement that that chin is there to be found. Someone's going to find it, so I don't know.

Ben Peak: 36:54

I think, if I'm betting this.

Dave Clarke: 36:55

I'm betting the under 1.5 rounds, which is plus 150. I might bet that under under a ramp and a half one way or the other, but you're not getting any value of minus 420 on Ian Gary. Is there any?

Matt Wilcox: 37:05

No, no, unless you're making part of a massive part of a massive parlay. Maybe throw it on Ian Gary, but, man, first of all, this is not the guy that he wanted to fight. He called out what's his name, neil. It was another guy they wanted to fight who then got injured. So he's not fully prepared for Magni and Magni's had some real fights in his life. He's had some dog fights and that's something that we have not seen from Ian Gary either. I get it. He has promoted himself to the nth degree. He signed with better. He's doing all these tick tocks. He's really, really opened up this whole. I know I can make money now, so I'm going to make my money now. Which go get your buck, kid. But let's stop pretending like, like your 12 and O's is impressive. Who have you? You haven't beaten anyone yet and now you're going against the guy. This is his 40th fight. It's a real tough spot for him, I think. I think it's a lot of pressure and he's talked a big, big game. Do I want him to win? I like him, I'm like a real fan of you, yaris, but it's a tough spot for him here for sure.

Dave Clarke: 38:04

You remember, did you see, the meme I sent you guys today? That was? It was like the Michael Scott you miss 100% of the shots you don't take Michael Jordan, Michael Scott, it's like we're not here to take part, we're here to take over. Conor McGregor, Ian, Gary, so I do, I just I do think that he should be trying. If I was advising him, I would be trying to steer his brand away from what Connor already did. I think it's scorched earth. I think that it's it's it's well worn ground at this point and he's not as clever Like he's just not as clever and he's not as magnetic.

Matt Wilcox: 38:41

Not that guy. There is an inherent asshole deep inside Conor McGregor. That's why he's good at what he does. It's earnest. He's not acting, he's a cunt.

Dave Clarke: 38:49

Yeah, he's a little cunt, ian.

Matt Wilcox: 38:51

Gary is like a nice guy. He's too nice of a guy After his last fight he was outside greeting like his, his mom or something, and a drunk guy bumped into him and Ian, you're like give him like the whole, like hey, man, listen, I know you're drunk right now, but you really really don't want to ride this.

Dave Clarke: 39:05

I did see that it was like after his last fight, right, he got like some guy started saying shit to him and he was really, really nice about it. I'm like dude. I'm like McGregor's already like texted his manager to tell him that we're going to have to pay this dude because I'm about to fuck him up.

Matt Wilcox: 39:19

McGregor beat that guy up and then went to his dad's nursing home and beat him up there.

Dave Clarke: 39:23

Yeah, it's like a hundred percent what's going down, Like he's not walking away from that shit. And Ian Gary is like come on, man. And then now he's trying to do this impression of Conor McGregor and it's just like we've all seen, we've seen this before, man, and you're just, you're not that dude. So he's an exciting fighter. He could still get really popular if he just but here's my thing.

Matt Wilcox: 39:43

We were all super entertained by McGregor, right, but we were also all super entertained by GSP. You can be a good dude and we'll all still go like, oh, he's awesome.

Dave Clarke: 39:52

Like you know, the entertainment level is not even close between the two. Oh, that's true, it's. It's like we're talking like WWE, like fucking attitude era, like compared to WWE Summer Slam last week, like that's just not the same thing.

Ben Peak: 40:05

Dude, I loved watching GSP get ready for fights and the training like behind the scenes thing, because he took all that shit so seriously and I was like, oh wow, I want to do shit like that. But when I watched him, like I just knew what was going to happen every single time, every single fucking time.

Dave Clarke: 40:22

And like they're not really comparable as fighters like GSP, I think Is he's definitely the most well-rounded at the very least, if not the best of all time. But he's definitely the guy that had everything, like he had all the stuff in his locker, and I also. I really enjoy that. He, george Foreman, michael Bisping, like he was like oh, if I could just get a fucking title, I'll go in and get that title shot against Bisping. I know I can fuck him up like no. What an asshole thing I know he's like wait, who has that belt? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll take it, I'll take it. And then Bisping goes and he's like, well, I'll just take another fight in like two weeks, and he gets knocked out by Kevin Gaslam and retires. So I'm like, oh, what a fitting end, what a fitting end to a career. Anyway, yeah, I do agree. I think that Ian, ian Gary, needs to be a little bit more original in his branding. The internet, as for all its fickle nature and the ways that it is very underwhelming and bad for society, it's very curt when it comes to like people doing bullshit. Like it's going to just be like, yeah, no, we reject you, we reject you wholeheartedly. Like we've already seen this, we don't like it. It's not as cool, it's not as cute, it's a vaudeville act, it's a sequel, so it's just not going to work. And I think that he should just put his head down and fucking get to work. Because it reminds me, honestly, if he wasn't Irish, it reminds me more of Darren Till than it reminds me of Connor McGregor, to be 100% honest with you, because Darren Till came in with a remarkably similar fight style of a chin that was pointing at the fucking North Star, like they're going to find Jesus and then he gets sent to Jesus. It's just like bruh and it is. It's really really clean and crisp, effective combinations like three to four that are like clearly like incredibly well practiced and easy to deliver. But I mean, ben, if you were fighting an Ian Garey type, you're looking at him like you're looking at this game. Take like, oh my god, I'm head hunting this motherfucker, like I know I gotta just try to hit him as fucking hard as I can, right, or do you go like maybe we take him down and see what, see what he like has down on the ground, because he had that hasn't really proven yet.

Ben Peak: 42:26

I think, no matter what you do, you've got to be pushing him back like the thing. He swarms you yeah, none of these guys do as well on their back foot, and with taller guys like that, your head has to be in their chest the whole time.

Dave Clarke: 42:41

Yeah.

Ben Peak: 42:41

Bang jumping up with trying to hook cat catch on the outside uppercut.

Dave Clarke: 42:46

Eliminate their range like just a limit, because if you're on the end of that punch, that's when you're in trouble.

Ben Peak: 42:50

Yeah, yeah, attack. Change in levels, attacking like it's, but constantly, almost almost literally, trying to push your forehead into their chest the entire time and keep them moving back, keep them moving back and nobody does that. Do you try spinning?

Dave Clarke: 43:04

whether did it to Conor McGregor. He was like it kind of getting caught on the end of stuff and he was like alright, and he just stepped inside his range and just started fucking him up and I was like huh, okay, but that's, I think, why Conor never does that well against guys that are taller than him or have equal reach, like when he was fighting poor year, like he just didn't have that same kind of like pop on the end of his punches. But he fights in any Alvarez like a little bit shorter than him. He fights a Jose Aldo or you know, like these guys that have that Little bit of a height or size disadvantage in his range. He's just so good at picking guys out at the end of his range, and I think Gary's good at the same thing, but it's findoutable. You know. You need to start learning how to like fight on the inside also. Um, I don't think it's gonna be this weekend. I do still think he and Gary's gonna win, but it's, we're gonna start to see. We're gonna start to see. I think that I I'd be surprised if we saw him as the champion of his division. That would be, that would be tough. You don't think so. I don't see it yet. Yeah, good cuz, don't ever fucking disagree with me. Um, timon Blackshire and Mario Batista. Batista is the underdog Blackshire, I like. I actually quite like watching him fight he's for just fought last week. I wait, was it last week? Yeah, man Like like the last card.

Matt Wilcox: 44:19

He won. He beat Johnson At a UFC fight night in Genza. Luke he yeah.

Dave Clarke: 44:25

Yeah, he was the twister guys fighting again.

Ben Peak: 44:28

He stood right back up.

Matt Wilcox: 44:29

He said I'm good he didn't do shit to me, I'm ready to go. Oh, that's fucking awesome.

Dave Clarke: 44:33

I'm every See on Blackshire let's go, this guy wins. That sounds awesome. Let's go. Have we ever seen that fight?

Matt Wilcox: 44:40

two fights in two weeks? Well, not, not to my knowledge. No, not, since you have seen, has become what it is, but Even so but what about the weight cutting everything? I think about all that dude. I think he said he walks around at 155, so he fights at one. They're fighting, or, yeah, 136. He's that now. But that's crazy man, that's a bad dude right there.

Dave Clarke: 45:01

Ben, do you think that's cool or do you think that's just a terrible idea? It's a good way to get yourself really hurt.

Ben Peak: 45:07

I'm sorry, I miss what you said there, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, damn it. I was hoping that you're gonna run through it again before you.

Matt Wilcox: 45:17

Mon. Blackshire fought last week at fight night Luke a versus Dos Anos and won by by twister. He hit the kid with a twister so he immediately stood up because Batista was set to fight some other Joe Schmoe, and and he broke his hand, I think. So Blackshire is going two weeks in a row on main cards, got it? Yeah, no, I think that's. I don't want you to answer anymore.

Ben Peak: 45:43

Don't make it a highlight.

Dave Clarke: 45:47

We're making a video that. Go stay in the corner and think about what you did Amanda Lee Moses fighting Zhang Weili Is she or she's gonna get knocked out? She's gonna get fucked up. Yeah, john Weili is, you know. I will say this about Weili, though she is responsible for some of the most, if not the most entertaining women's fights that I've ever seen.

Ben Peak: 46:08

I think that.

Dave Clarke: 46:09

I think that she's awesome and I really always cheer for her to win, because there's a slight vibe that they might turn her into glue and ash trace Country if she doesn't win, like, but she seems like a state-sponsored fighter and I this could be completely off fucking base, like I feel bad saying it, but she's. It seems like if she brings great honor and shame on her house and name, that they will in fact kill her and We'll never see her again. That's just. I just get the vibe like there's always one guy in her camp. That's like looking at her real hard when she's answering questions. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. Okay, and I'm just based in nothing. I'm not basing this in any sort of real reality, I'm just. It's just, the vibes are off in that. In that sense. In that sense the vibes are off and I just feel like maybe we should be watching to see if she's like tapping and Morse code or like if she's you know what I mean like if she's just trying to get a message across.

Ben Peak: 47:03

Yeah, she can finally win her blank freedom.

Dave Clarke: 47:07

You haven't experienced with this situation, when you're the victim of kidnapping. Oh wait, hold on a second. That's actually not. That didn't happen. Yeah, okay, trouble than you were so wait on.

Matt Wilcox: 47:18

But you say that it's so funny. When Rose knocked her out the first time and she woke up, I got worried, screaming no, no. It's like oh man, I would not want to go back to Beijing like that.

Dave Clarke: 47:30

Yeah, I feel like, I feel like, maybe, like her reaction was like I just lost one of my little brothers like that's it's just like it's. I.

Matt Wilcox: 47:37

Remember, I remember when I was in fifth grade I got in trouble like big trouble at school and I remember I thought it was smart in the principal's office to start screaming and crying that you Can't tell my dad he's gonna kill me. You have no idea he's actually gonna kill me. And that created a whole different issue with DCF and them being like are you actually not safe at home? That's what it reminded me of. It was like no, no, no, you can't go home like this.

Ben Peak: 48:02

Don't tell my dad.

Dave Clarke: 48:05

He'll bring out the big shoe. Oh man, that's really really funny. Anyway, my Nalima is gonna lose. So if you want to put Zhang and Zhang Wei Li in a in a some sort of parlay, I Would do that.

Matt Wilcox: 48:21

Yeah, plus, they're setting up Zhang Wei Li for that fight with the other Chinese woman. I think it's like Yan John, yao Zhang, or something like that.

Dave Clarke: 48:30

You better be close, bro, you better be, but they want to line them up for.

Matt Wilcox: 48:36

Chinese fight for a fight in China. So this is just a stepping stone for Wei Li to be back at number one spot.

Dave Clarke: 48:42

Hmm, all right. Well, I'm excited for and I really do hope she wins, because I think two bigger things that stay here, um, shonamali, alger main sterling Listen, the smart money, obviously, if you know anything about this sport is on algeo taking this dude down Almost immediately and choking the fucking life out of him. But I will say this, I will say this Shawna malli is a lot more likeable than alger main sterling, like a lot more likeable. It's happening in Boston, in the TD garden, so I guarantee you the crowd is gonna be a shonamali crowd and not an algea main stirrer sterling crowd. Algeo is really talented, but that fucking thing he did against Darius when he was like faking, being like all out of it with the knee and it was clearly fake. And then he like threw the bell down. I know he went back and like Peter young you know sorry, peter, peter young I know he went. He trains with Darius. Ben knows some people that are training with them, I guess, in Boston this week. But I I just think that would really soured me on him and he's just not my favorite champion in that way. Also, there's some damning like I, when it comes to sports, I'm not usually a huge fan of like trotting this out like any sort of advanced metrics, because, like people who watch sports, they know how to do an eye test better than any of your like advanced metrics and you just sound like a geek and you're geeking up my sports and I just don't like it. But like there's a weird damning stat that, like I Guess sterling is only finished like 28% of his takedowns over the last few Fights, like five to seven fights or whatever. So yeah, to me it's like I'll pause this question event. If you know what's gonna happen, if you're Sean O'Malley, right, and you're in this situation where you know that you're Visually outclassed in the wrestling department and you know what he's gonna do and there's no doubt in your mind, does that help you at all where it's like I just got, I can't just, I gotta just let him knock in his hands. I mean I can find that fucking chin because I know O'Malley can knock him out. I know he can't, I just don't know if he's gonna.

Ben Peak: 50:52

Yeah, I think if the game was reversed and O'Malley was like the hardest dude coming in new and you obviously know he's gonna strike with you, quite frankly, it's easier to nullify that than it is to nullify someone. Just, all they have to do is get two hands on you, like hand on your leg. They have to get underneath your punching range, something like that. It's a fight and like distances open and close, open and close.

Dave Clarke: 51:22

They're in close and then all like it's no way to stay away from the whole time.

Ben Peak: 51:26

Yeah, you're not going to, you're going to have to grapple. So, yes, it does help you decide what you're gonna have to concentrate on, like how do you slide, how do you switch your hips, how do you stand back up, how do you use the cage to get back up, because you're gonna be on the ground at some point. There's no.

Dave Clarke: 51:43

There's no getting away. Yeah, it's gonna happen.

Ben Peak: 51:45

But how do you nullify then the position that comes next? Yeah, like obviously you want to fight the hands and do that, like to stop it, and you want to be in and out. But again, I think if it was reversed it would be easier. But I think Sean O'Malley is going to have a hard one with this. I've counted both of these guys out every single fight that they've ever been in. It's like difficult for me to decide who to count out here, but I think I'm going to count out Sean O'Malley.

Dave Clarke: 52:11

It's going to be a long night for him and it's also going to be sort of determinant on the card because if he just gets a wrestle fucked for five rounds or he gets like immediately taken down and choked out which is also a distinct possibility I it's going to make the cards going to be like so fucking underwhelming if that happens. Like the comane is a lock, ian Gary, sure, maybe there's some fights leading up to it that are fun, but if O'Malley doesn't put in a good performance, this is a fucking failure of a card. I'm interested to see how the crowd is going to be and like all that stuff, but like they're going to fucking turn that crowds. I know Boston crowds. I know them better than any other crowd on the planet. I've been in them more than any other crowd and, quite frankly, everything that people say about them is true and I'm not here to defend them because that place is going to get so fucking toxic if that fight is boring. It's going to get so fucking toxic if that fight is boring. You thought Jacksonville was bad, it's going to be bad. So Ben's been a part of actual Boston crowds on the positive side because Connor McGregor rocked in and everybody in Boston is like, oh my gosh, and he fucking knocked the guy out and then like went home and like that's a positive, like that's, there's nice things that can happen in those in those places, but we're also chasing fucking Lakers teams out of there, and so it's. I don't know, matt, what do you think any value in the Sean O'Malley bet? I? So I want to say I will destroy this man. Everything you said is a lie.

Matt Wilcox: 53:30

I'm betting on Sean O'Malley, because I won't. I'm not going to bet on a three 90 favorite. I think Sean O'Malley 360. Even worse, I don't think Sean O'Malley is as bad at you just as we think he is. I don't think it matters, though, because of how good Aljo is. Look at what he did to Henry Sihuda. He wouldn't even get up off the mat, he just gets down on his knees. So you can't strike him with a kick and then wait.

Dave Clarke: 53:58

That's the other thing you got to. You got to eliminate that rule. You should be able to get kicked in the head when you're on the ground or need in the head and you're on the ground, you don't care. You're not going to be able to grab into people. It's an exploitation of the rules. I don't like it.

Matt Wilcox: 54:10

So I think Aljo has talked this weird level of shit for this fight where he's going to stand up and try and bang with O'Malley for a while, right Cause once he starts losing because we know he's a scared little rat who faked a head injury to get about in the first place what he's going to do is he's just going to take him down and body triangle him and hold him there for five rounds. So it's going to be boring, but I do think O'Malley could win this fight. So I'm gonna better know Mali, just because I think it's such a disrespectful line for such a gifted striker.

Dave Clarke: 54:37

Well, that was very eloquent, Matt, and he really came off the top rope to Algerman Sterling. I really enjoyed it. I'm gonna say that you, between you and Ben, you you've done a better job tonight, so well done. Fucking useless to me, I'm just gonna.

Matt Wilcox: 54:51

I forgot what we were talking about.

Dave Clarke: 54:55

I thought, Ben said that it was such a good impression, but that was you I.

Ben Peak: 55:00

Didn't forget what we were talking about. I never knew.

Dave Clarke: 55:08

Do you, ben and the final question for the evening any merit in kneeing somebody as they try and take you down? Or is that just gifting them your leg?

Ben Peak: 55:16

It's, it's high risk, I reward you. It's it's. It's hard to aim and you don't always see it work, but when you do see it it's pretty spectacular. But I think more so it's hard to get the timing right, because if you do get that that ascension, and you're off the ground, you're flying, then I mean, if you're a lot safer than, say, when you were About to lift up, your feet are on the ground, your hips are up, which is when normally you'll get caught once because you shoot a takedown when you can touch the person already.

Dave Clarke: 55:49

So what would you say is the? Is the? Is the smartest MMA defensive takedowns? You think just sprawling like old school, like get my fucking hips out of the way, or do you think it's like Okay, he's got me on the fence, control the head, turn him out, you know, or try to Offensively wrestle, to like try to nullify him or cancel it out? I guess it's situational right depends who you're coming up against and what your skill set is.

Ben Peak: 56:09

well, I think as a striker, the quite frankly, the best Take-down defense, which we never see utilizes the jab, because in MMA you don't see the jab utilized that much. If you could have a whip-like Jab and you're just pumping, pumping that, then you're going to have that person's timing down and they're going to try to time you and if you start to add fakes Then they're gonna go for the take-up take down underneath it. You're gonna be able to see it. I think the jab as a from a striking perspective is truly the best take.

Dave Clarke: 56:38

It is really weird how little we see a lead jabbing in the UFC and yeah yeah. Level MMA in general. It's really strange because it's always been known like. I grew up watching heavyweight boxing and I never liked them but I always watched. I would always tune in for the Lennox Lewis fights. My dad would put them on and like that guy was enormous and he had a rocket of a punch but all he ever did was fucking jab people in the face because his arms were like go-go gadget arms. They were like fucking nine feet long, so that's all he ever had to do. He just like lived on the jab, just fucking, just fucked guys up with jabs until finally like they were Blary eyed and then he would just put him away. And I thought it was a little boring. But fundamentally it's so sound and like nobody in MMA has like a, has like an elite jab that I can think of and it's like it is the control, it's the rangefinder, it's the control. It's like it's a setup and like I think a lot of it is that hand control thing because instead of jabbing, guys are Grabbing gloves and trying to find range that way because they know that like a grappling exchange could happen like super, super quickly. So they don't want to overextend, I guess. But man, I really think there is gonna be somebody that comes around the corner with a fucking elite jab and they're just gonna dominate a division at some point in the future. So you heard it here first, folks. Thank you to Ben I can see your thoughts peak. Matthew, mr Miyagi Wilcox and Myself, dk sizzle, dave Clark. This has been Brr. Check my oil. Have a great day, everybody. I I.