#28 - College Football Playoff 2020 Preview & Predictions | Who will win the Heisman Trophy?

Craig D'Alessandro: 0:24

This episode of missing the point is being brought to you by box Oh crafts, save 15% off your first holiday box at checkout with the promo code MTP. That's box o crafts.com. On this episode of missing the point, we give our preview of the college football playoffs. We'll take a look at the teams that got in whether more teams should have been added and whether Ohio State really deserves to be in contention for a championship. After only playing in six games. We'll preview the matchup So between Clemson taking on Ohio State and Alabama taking on Notre Dame will break down which teams have the edge and which team will end up raising the college football playoffs national championship trophy will also give our thoughts on who will win the Heisman Trophy. Will Trevor Lawrence collect one more piece of hardware before potentially heading to the Jacksonville Jaguars? Or could a wide receiver win it for the first time since Desmond Howard in 1991. Stay tuned to find out but first some housekeeping. missing the point is a one hour podcast recapping the biggest stories in the world of sports with the New England flavour. The show notes and transcript from today's episode can be found in the description box below, as well as on our website www dot MTP show.com. If you're new to the show, please consider subscribing. It's the easiest way to see we publish new episodes. We are an apple podcast, Spotify, Google and wherever you get your podcasts, be sure to rate us and leave review of any of our shows. We always appreciate your feedback. Let us know how we're sounding and how we can sound better. Also, be sure to follow us on all of our social medias. All of our links will be in the show notes and check it out brand new website WWW dot MTP show calm that's MTP show.com. And now this is missing the point, Episode 28. But it's all relative.

Michael Marcangelo: 2:24

Welcome into missing the point I am your host Michael Markangelo and on this episode we are talking about the college football playoffs. What a great title for a great tournament. And we're talking about the top 25 the snubs we're going to preview all the games we're also going to talk about the Heisman. I am joined by the real BK Bob Kelly, by Rayshawn Buchanan. don't care how you are. I want to know right off the top right off the top. What is your issue with the top four teams that were selected? And who was snubbed the most? Bobby, go ahead.

Rob Kelly: 2:58

My biggest issue. So it's not necessarily a specific snob for a team. I do think there was a few teams that deserved to be in there. But that's not my biggest issue with what happened was how everything went down. My biggest issue is the fact that there is a team that played six games in the National Championship tournament. I get Ohio State is the best team, I get it. They're one of the better teams in the country. They have a great phenomenal quarterback, they have a great defense a great coach. They didn't earn it. That's that's that's that's the thing that that really gets to me the most I would have liked to see Texas a&m, I would like to see Cincinnati, Georgia, there's a few teams to me that I think earned it more than they did. Granted, I know that they're a better football team on paper. But when it comes to earning yourself in a tournament that is based off of rankings, and not necessarily standings and like your head to head matchups like it is in the NFL, it's based off of like opinion and ranking. So to me, like when it comes down to that you need to earn your way in. And I don't think Ohio State did that. That's my biggest issue. right from the get go. It's just like, I don't see how you how you can logically put a six team, a team that played six games in a National Championship tournament.

Michael Marcangelo: 4:15

I just don't see it. I guess for me before for your generation, like you will always talk about on the show. And in our in our conversations, right? Like you can only play the teams that are in front of you. They were only scared. I mean, they only were handed six games. They want them all so rarely do they deserve to be there. No, they don't. And, you know, I mean, I mean, granted, that's that's awesome that they went six to know. But you know, they got in because of the name and sort of Notre Dame. So let me not just make an Ohio State bashing here, right? Yes, they went 10 to one. I mean, yes, that's great. They were in a ACC for this year because of you know, because of COVID related issues, but to go attend in one and Yes, I know. They beat Clemson earlier in the year. But as we know, that happened without Trevor Lawrence that first time around, because Trevor Lawrence was then involved in the COVID protocol at that time. So when he came back, they smacked him. And it was 34 to 10. So I'm not sure any any other team that gets smacked 34 to 10. As to Hey, you know, nice year, you know, but you know, too bad. We'll see. We'll see you and another time. So, you know, that leads to a question. I think Mike's probably going to ask us in you know, should they extend the college results. layoffs and to me personally, the answer's yes. I don't know how you feel about it, Bobby, or Mike, but they have to extend the playoff system because my thing is, Ohio State or Notre Dame to me should not be involved in it this year. And I said only because of how state only played six games like they really moved around the rules just for them. And I'm not I'm not here for that just for them to get smacked in the first round, because they're not winning this week, or whatever they play. So but why not? We'll touch on it. I mean, wouldn't add any more teams to create like the March Madness like effect? Like, wouldn't it make more sense to have like, 10, you know, eight to 10 teams, right. And then you there's gonna be one team that you don't expect to win that doesn't have a shot? That does? Right. That's why everyone?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 6:05

Yeah, isn't that? Isn't that why we love march madness? Yeah,

Michael Marcangelo: 6:09

I was saying that. Yeah, I'm agreeing with you. I think the 14 playoff selection, I think it's ridiculous. I think it's recently just been the Alabama, the Alabama show, really, I mean, that's it. That's all it's been

Rob Kelly: 6:20

Alabama, Clemson every year, Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, those three.

Michael Marcangelo: 6:24

So like, if you want to create more of maybe notoriety and more interest nationwide, like add more teams because everybody loves a Cinderella story or the unlikely story, right? And it can't happen. if everybody's just cherry picking the four most notable names in College Football

Rayshawn Buchanan: 6:40

why, but what well, it's one of the teams, like in my thinking, Okay, the PAC 12 hasn't had a dominant team in a while.

Michael Marcangelo: 6:48

years,

Rayshawn Buchanan: 6:49

In years, you know, I'm saying so it's like, I feel like Oregon was in the play in the championship game. The year they became a lost like ham.

Michael Marcangelo: 6:56

Wouldn't this be the year to have those seams in there? Because for the first time ever, like they only play conference games, so no one knows who like who would have done better against what what conference, right? Nobody?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 7:06

USC or UCLA or Edwards in an Arizona State. Those teams wasn't going to beat anybody in the sec or the ACC we know that in Yes. We know any given Saturday, right? I get or any given Friday night. I understand that. But those guys wasn't those those teams weren't going to come as anybody stadium. What would they put out? 30 or 40 shirt because college football's a wide open game, but I'm not thinking that any team from the PAC 12, or even a big salt for that matter, because the big 12 they find a way to get there, whether it's TCU or Oklahoma, you know, a Texas and then when it when does matter, most there are Baylor for that matter. They're giving 55 points to a team nation and give it for the five points to so it's ridiculous.

Michael Marcangelo: 7:49

So are you advocating for more teams in the playoffs? but less teams deserve to be there? That's what it kind of sounded like to me.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 7:55

Um, yeah, I mean, I guess I guess I have a weird argument. But like, I mean, I I do stand by the point that there should be more teams involved. I just to me, I just I don't I think they have to solidify even further what the actual credentials are, if I'm going to be clear about it. Right. So right now, I just think that if you have the big name you're getting in, right. But as you know, as we're going to talk about a few, there's some teams that have the big names and aren't big time conferences. They're not getting that big. And it's just like, yo, like, they shouldn't be on the outside looking in. But they are so you know, it is what it is.

Rob Kelly: 8:29

Yeah. And I just think, Mike to go back to what you said earlier is like, if there's any, if there's any year to do it to me, I'm shocked. The NCAA didn't do it. Because we all know what the NCAA is about. We know what they're always will be about. And that's about their money. So to me, like the way that they set it up this year, I think does they just failed themselves, because I think they could have expanded this playoffs. And it could have been an amazing television event. But instead instead we just have the same four teams that people say is controversial that aren't, you know what I mean? It's just like, they created controversy that they didn't need to in a year where if they did expand this they would have gotten so much publicity and just so much positive reaction from expanding this playoffs and having a team like I know they lost the Liberty this past weekend. But having a team like a Coastal Carolina, I know they'd get absolutely smashed out. But But long wouldn't who wouldn't love to see the possibility of Coastal Carolina going up against Alabama in that first round game like I would 100 to do? What I would 100% tuned in because you know what? You never know. You never know remember? Was it even close to Carolina? No, it was a four to go. Not four to go coach.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 9:40

No, I know. I know. He's like, what, you know what I mean? Like, is I know, yeah, I'll help. I'll help. I'll help out the listeners at home. So what Bobby was talking about, we got to tell you all that but all the way back to 2007. At the big house. They had Mike the Appalachian. Yeah, yeah, the Appalachian State comes into, they come into the big house. And, you know, our Montse Edwards who played quarterback for Appalachian State just went apeshit on the Michigan defense ran all over them through for whatever you want it but I remember watching academic on College GameDay live or whatever, and they had that that going on. So talking about almost 14 years ago, that happening like it's very it's very rare that that happens. And you know, I noticed that what Of course the Carlisle not to play football I mean, we all know people that went to Costa Carolina cuz that was like a dean in the pipe, you know saying it was like being south, but I just think to me like it's close to her Atlanta like nah like, I don't know. Yes, they played Del Sol I get it but for them to be in a game because Alabama now I get it from a financial standpoint for them. Sure that makes perfect sense because those schools they get paid to go to schools, bigger schools and they get they get to share that money. I'm not mad at that. But to come up there and maybe lose 48 to seven because we know where Alabama does. If you were sent maybe it gets like an Ohio State or or even in Michigan or Michigan State. Alright, cool. But I guess Alabama roadside, you know what Matt Jones would do it to them? You know, you know what, Bobby? You know what they will do to them? in the first quarter, bro,

Rob Kelly: 11:11

just think of it, you're right when Coastal Carolina would get that money to is like it would just it would have benefited so many different aspects of college football and college athletics for them to expand this year. And I just think it's disappointing. They didn't. Okay, so basically,

Michael Marcangelo: 11:27

I think we've come to the conclusion that the that the top 25 and like the college football playoff, just lacks parody. Like it's just always the same fortune. Right. So I mean, I think this year, because there was an expectation of this is the year that anything, anything can happen. anything has happened. We all know it. Maybe there was going to be an exception. You know, a lot of people freaked out over the fact that you know, Notre Dame or Ohio State, probably mostly Ohio State made the playoffs instead of a team like my I think the snub for me, is Cincinnati, the Cincinnati Bearcats. I mean, they went nine and Oh, they won the American Athletic Conference. It's not a great division. It's not the fact that they didn't get in. It's the fact that they weren't even considered like it just it never even dawned on them on the people that that pick these teams to say, You know what? 907 and Oh, no a home to you know, away that one. I mean, again, they just did everything that they needed to do. And they put them behind a team like Florida who was eight and three, eight and three, a three wins or three loss team is a head of an I don't know team.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 12:33

I'll try to take my bias out of it. Everyone. Yes, I'm from I am from Boston. Born and raised, you know, but you know, not on the playground. Most of my days, you know, but I'm a gator that that is ever since the christelijke days like that. That is that is my team. It's like look now yes, we lost some games that we shouldn't have. Yes, you know, but you lost two in a row. But we also lost it Alabama. So as you know, it's not like this to me just don't shame me was in Alabama. But there's always some games that we leave on the table every year under the Dan Mullen era. Our defensive coordinator used to go to but I'm not gonna go I'm not gonna get emotional tonight. It's just it's hard for me to put Okay, perfect example. Right? You saying that Cincinnati was a snub? Okay. I mean, I guess that's a cute Cinderella story. It's the same thing for UCF. A couple years ago, they were 13 and Oh, they were 13 and oh, and it was like you know what? That you know and so much they would they was raising up their own little trophy like oh, like you know, whether row national champion so on and so forth. So it's like they're not going to give that those particular schools or those that then I mean, they're not mean majors because you're the one but it's like they're not going to give those type of schools that type of notoriety because once again, I and even though and granted one of my former students went to UCF so Kenny, you know, one of my favorites is my boy but I'm but I'm sorry, brother. If y'all went against Alabama or you know somebody from the ACC they would have they would have wax y'all as from the from beginning to end I'm sorry. Like it just it is what it is. So you might dog you wouldn't mind we want the best I've ever had, bro. I'm just telling you a bit a bit over. So it's the same thing with Cincinnati. Cincinnati is somehow snuck in as the for to replace Notre Dame. Once again, it's the same thing that we were just talking about what Coastal Carolina? What do you think Cincinnati was going to do against I guess Alabama, please. I'm listening.

Michael Marcangelo: 14:22

What I mean, let's just assume what if they got three, three seat? And they don't play?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 14:27

Clemson? Yeah. They would check. I can't even get out of Sundance.

Unknown: 14:35

I mean, I'm just

Rayshawn Buchanan: 14:37

saying, Trevor Lawrence is the best player in all of college football. That's a fact is that it's like not opinion. That's a fact. So even there, Cincinnati rose up to be three. Chevy. Once again. He's going to work. There's nothing they can do. They made 14 points. Okay. Bravo, a round of applause. You get a participation trophy. They like no like it. The competition matters row and matters. I'm sorry, it matters,

Michael Marcangelo: 15:06

right? If every team that we've talked about so far to get smacked by by Alabama or Clemson, why are we going to let more teams into the playoffs? If it's already a foregone conclusion that they're going to lose? You get more competitive games,

Rayshawn Buchanan: 15:19

not necessarily about who's winning or

Michael Marcangelo: 15:21

not was number one seed not Alabama's ended apparently

Rayshawn Buchanan: 15:24

nobody I don't know but you didn't you didn't you but you you only brought up your son and I think Bobby said his I didn't say mine like um Texas a&m was a in one and their own their only loss as well was to Alabama

Michael Marcangelo: 15:36

he went there a second loss to beat Alabama to

Rayshawn Buchanan: 15:38

know say but no you said you extended it so my thing is so six to a three today is beat could a beat Ohio State sure they could be our state because that's just the fields is more up and down than my weight. It's just It's just that simple. Um so that's just what it is so um, and I know some people you know, they go crazy Ohio State but I want to make I want to make it clear on this show. For those that that watch college football. There has not been a good quarterback to come out of Ohio State. Not in recent memory now in history. I have had good running. You have had good running backs. You've had good wide receivers, you've had good defensive linemen, you've had a good defensive backs. quarterbacking is not your specialty. is just as just not the case.

Michael Marcangelo: 16:22

You're not high on Justin fields.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 16:24

I was coming into the year I was I think that he played really well last year transferring from UGA no and I don't blame him for leaving Athens on the outside of the food there's not much out there. So I don't blame him for that but you know coming up to Columbus at the at the zoo one day expects you to win so you know they wonder what the gym Trusler they wonder Urban Meyer so and you know, to me just the film to me was better than some of those guys that they had in the past or whether he was better than he was bad in the house because in my opinion, better than JT Barrett. I'm trying to remember the guy that they did they had a quarterback when they beat Miami back in the day when was claret I forget Greg krenzel Craig krenzel Yeah, I was gonna say Jim Tressel but that was the coach so yeah, yeah so yeah good so good nice clean up there Bobby for me. Oh,

Rob Kelly: 17:10

yeah. Doctor quarterback row dude was the smartest quarterback in the head. You

Rayshawn Buchanan: 17:14

know? Yeah, exactly. So you know, you don't saying so is this is like to me. They don't they don't produce that. So yeah, do I think I think Texas a&m at a six seek to beat a three c that was six, you know, and didn't have real competition. Because they did mainly just they didn't play out the schedule, not because they couldn't play real competition. They didn't play enough games. So I do think that that's feasible. So as we said before the show that we might have said that while we got on but it's like it has been the Alabama Invitational it has because Nick Saban continuously brings Alabama brings that smoke, they just do a want the smoke and urine a year out. They find talent. You know, we're going to talk about the highest win stuff later on. You know, they got a guy on their team. Well, two guys on that team that really steal the show on a weekly basis. But I don't know I said, I still stand by there should be more teams in there. That's just to have more competitive games. But to me, Texas a&m was a snub and you know, I felt like they could have made some noise. Had they been in 16?

Michael Marcangelo: 18:12

right Bobby, who's your snub?

Rob Kelly: 18:14

Yeah, I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to go. So you brought was brought up at first and that's Cincinnati man. They started out. So what what bothers me the most about it is they started out undefeated and the first rankings at number seven. So you see them at number seven when the first rankings come out in New York. Okay. A couple teams lose. And how does that maybe they could jump them. Literally, every single team ahead of them has lost since then. And they still didn't jump them like you look at Notre Dame, they just got whacked by Clemson absolutely smoked. And they get it. Texas a&m, they lost to right who jus said they watched it they lost Alabama, Oklahoma has lost to Alabama. All these teams that are surrounding Cincinnati have lost games since these rankings came out. And it's just like, what are we really doing here? It's like, that's when you expect every single year you expect these teams to jump up into these rankings. And it's like, how can you not how can you not let Cincinnati into that. And it's like, the Ohio State thing is just really what bothers me is like, it's just you can't let her team in at 6.0. and expect if they win these two games, and they're eight and oh, and you have teams that have played 1112 games, you're telling me that an eight no team deserves to be a champion over teams in a play 1213 games that have actually gone through a season. That's crazy. You know what I mean? The NCAA couldn't have got this more wrong putting them in there.

Michael Marcangelo: 19:38

Are you more upset

Rob Kelly: 19:39

that that they got in or that the that the governing body changed the rules to get them in? That's what it is, is they changed the rules to get them in? Because like, didn't isn't the PAC 10 and now eligible for national championship consideration right now because they didn't play enough games. And you're going to change the rules just so Ohio State can get in. But to be fair, to be fair, like we said, there's no buddy in the PAC 12 that's worth seeing right now. Right

Rayshawn Buchanan: 20:05

now right now anyways, right now. Um, you know, this is this is not to have the five anymore, right? No,

Unknown: 20:12

no,

Rayshawn Buchanan: 20:13

you know, but no, I get it. But I mean, once the guy and I asked this to both y'all, do you think that Cincinnati would have been a Notre Dame would it be What a beat Ohio State. Did you know what a straight face Do you really believe that they came in tomorrow because I you know, we you know, we're right, but not in overplaying Well, do you guys really believe they would have gave Clemson or Notre Dame again?

Michael Marcangelo: 20:39

I think that for a team that was at its average margin of victory was, like 23 points a game. I think they might have a shot. I know. I don't think it's a foregone conclusion. I think it could make an interesting though. I think they could be that Appalachian State. Right.

Unknown: 20:53

I think they earned it. Yeah.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 20:55

I mean, I just think I mean, I bet they're better. They're better than Appalachian State team.

Michael Marcangelo: 20:59

I don't want to sound like the story, though. Like you said that we're talking about 13 years ago, if there was ever a year to have a once in a lifetime event, is it not? 2020? I mean, haven't we all learned? That is the 2020s a year for one once in a lifetime, one generational things. I think moving on to start previewing the games, right, because that New Year's Day is going to be is going to be jam packed with college football. The first game on the dock is going to be Alabama versus Notre Dame. Obviously, you know, we all know Alabama 11. I know Nick Saban is a first of all, he doesn't even need to be on premise coach for the team to win. Like I remember he was he was yelling at his television because he had COVID twice. And you could not participate in the events. And they still want. I think some of the storylines. The storylines here are no Alabama, if you look at it and Notre Dame are kind of built similarly. But Alabama is better. I mean, they just, they they're a factory for the NFL, the teams have the two best offensive lines in college football, as well to the best friend semmens. On the other side of the ball. I will say, you know, I think the keys to the game are that Notre Dame is going to try and slow this, this game down. And Alabama, you know, with Mack Jones devonta. Smith, they're just going to try and speed it up and run all over them. I mean, I think this opened up as a Alvin was a 17 point favorite. So, you know, for you right, I'll go to you. I started with Bobby last time. What are your expectations of this game? Is it going to be a blowout? Or is there a chance that Notre Dame you know, has a chance?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 22:27

I think I think you just brought it up? I know, this was this is a rematch of the 2012 National 2013 13 Yeah, so I think that's when the Manti Te'o story came out. Right. And, you know, so and and, you know, the, the irony of that whole situation was that, you know, he was

Rob Kelly: 22:48

a no show for the game just

Rayshawn Buchanan: 22:51

wasn't the team was a no show. And so so it was his girlfriend. So, you know, it's just like, wow, you know, what, what do you what do you know, but I do think we'll have a similar outcome. The only differences I think that Notre Dame was starting out hot. And everyone be on Twitter going crazy. You know, our group chat will be going crazy like, man, are you seeing this? Right? I told you it's not the Alabama Invitational and I'll sit I'll sit there.

Michael Marcangelo: 23:15

We'll tell you that it was though.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 23:17

Right, right. No, I'm saying about like, you know, someone somebody be on Twitter saying that it wasn't gonna work. Well live tweet during the game. And, you know, I'll play the role a stupid name just saying, sit back, relax. Give it time. Because Alabama, we're Mack Jones and the vontae Smith and, you know, and Nagi Harris. Um, that office is crazy. And we are we don't we know what the defense does. So like I said, Notre Dame was so hot. And I'll say, like, I'll say it'll be like, it'll be 17 to 10 notre dame at the half. And then I can see Alabama's going by 30 straight and when 4217

Michael Marcangelo: 23:51

that would be a wild game because I think that 20 in that 2013 game. What didn't didn't Alabama score the first 35 points. They had like 500 Yeah, it wasn't it was a joke. It was 530 yards of offense and they held a Notre Dame to what it was like it was like 3032 yards of rushing for the entire game.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 24:10

wasn't wasn't shot. We're just on it. And Bobby was you know, and I said, Okay, l America, we know he was a bus as a pro. But Trevor just in Alabama was really special. Like there's a man that that won the run that he had run down the sideline, where he's exactly he made that man bowed down to him on the floor. I said, Oh, my God. I said, Oh, this this man is special. But then he gets he gets to he gets to Indianapolis, and we basically becomes the what's the guy he becomes the Brian Bosworth of running backs and just can't do anything. Yeah, man. I don't know, man. I just think it's gonna be it's gonna be a wrap. Alabama is the too big to basket shots are good. But

Michael Marcangelo: 24:54

one thing I'll say before we kick it over to you, Bobby is you know, you mentioned Ray, like, you know, we all know what that defense is going to do. I mean, they're, they're allowing what 19 points a game, but if you really look at it, three of their four games against the top 25 team, they have a lot more than 24 points again, so they are vulnerable. But that doesn't take into consideration like are those garbage time like is that those garbage time points?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 25:16

Oh, I'm still you still give it up, though. I mean, I don't believe they don't like him. So you got you got to stop the other team. So it doesn't matter whether you're up 30 or I mean that doesn't I guess cuz a contact and we're saying that but you know vulnerable sure does that would that take them out of it? I don't know. Like I said I just send me save is not to me was always offensive like team teams are nervous because of that difference differences was always crazy. But now as of late Samus had a hell of a run offensively. J Judy. That had to waddle they got listen Hey, Bill, hey, this is not the Patriot podcast. But if you find water later on the second round and that man is there, get that man that dude is a dance instructor on the field. Oh my god. Go get that man cuz you're not gonna get the other guy cuz he's gonna go into the top five. But don't get one. Oh, God dad, dude. Especially you wanna you want to replace for number 11 that's the guy right there. You heard it here first. Yeah, no, so

Rob Kelly: 26:13

that's you literally That was perfect segue cuz you literally just went into right exactly what I was gonna say is the thing with this Alabama team is like, it's not your your I was gonna say your grandpa's Alabama team. But it's not our 2012 Alabama team anymore. This isn't the greatest game on earth seven to three against LSU Alabama anymore. This is Mack Jones devonta. Smith nausia Harris. It's not headlined by that defense anymore. And it's been like this for the past few years is headlined by the big plays they make. You know, I mean, we've seen this and to Jalen hertz. It's just, I don't know if he said they changed the way they're recruiting. But it's not that same. Or it's just a different way NFL or NCAA Football is played now. It's not the same team as it used to be. You know what I mean? It's not the the vontae high tower Alabama's anymore where they're just absolutely dominating teams and defensive and they don't need to do that anymore. You know what I mean? Like they put up 40 to 50 points, almost every single game. I've watched them this year.

Michael Marcangelo: 27:16

I mean, Matt Jones statline reads as this 32 touchdowns for pics, 3700 yards passing?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 27:23

Unruh, even though he wasn't in the NFL, but he's really good right now.

Michael Marcangelo: 27:27

I think what's more, I think what's more impressive, though, you know, is you know, divide Smith, he'll go into the SEC championship game, you know, he had 106 targets, hit two drops all season of those. I mean that that's wild.

Rob Kelly: 27:41

So 61 you have you have here and then out 61 of his 83 receptions are first downs. Are you serious?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 27:49

75% his catches? insane, insane. Insane.

Michael Marcangelo: 27:53

So I think I think for for all of us, you know, we don't we don't want to beat a dead horse here. Is there a chance that Notre Dame wins? Sure.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 28:01

Right. Yeah, sure. Sure. Just for content, sure.

Michael Marcangelo: 28:05

There's a chance that you can never have too much of that. But in reality, in reality, this has all the makings to be an Alabama 45 notre dame 21 game. I think it's going to be an absolute route by by Nick Saban's team. And I think that once again, we're going to find the Crimson Tide and in the actual championship game, I don't know if you guys feel any differently. Yeah,

Rob Kelly: 28:30

I completely agree to me like I just said, This isn't AJ McLaren's Alabama anymore?

Unknown: 28:34

You know,

Rob Kelly: 28:35

this is this is this isn't that team that we're that that's going to put up 22 points and you could possibly upset if you have a good offensive day? No, you want to beat this team you got to show up and you got to score some damn points. And I think that's what puts them ahead of the dominant teams that we saw back in the day I think these Alabama teams are on a different level man.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 28:56

Right But you know, you know what it is to me like I think about the notable losses they've had so I think in 2010 when a loss so it's all been there in Canada and your special year. Cam Newton might have been the best player we've ever seen in college. Especially that season anyways. My being here like 48 touchdowns total touchdowns last year, like last season was absurd also Yeah, it was just unreal. Like he It was really a really was a man amongst boys. And he just did whatever he wanted to because Alabama like so if you don't have that type of athlete and then obviously when I'm, you know, even though he was again, didn't do much in the NFL, but Johnny Manziel Johnny football when he when he when he was at Texas a&m people forget. He was running around doing stuff, you know, looking like looking like a wizard. He was looking really good.

Rob Kelly: 29:49

Exactly, exactly. The Georgia teams that just lost to them in the championship two years ago that gave him a great game. Look at that team man, their Georgia team at Calvin Ridley, they had Michels, they had Nick Chubb, you don't I mean, they had guys that could keep up with this offense. And that's why they took them to where they were. Notre Dame inkbook isn't doing it. You know what I mean? He's not taking him at glory when he's not doing

Michael Marcangelo: 30:14

just so that everyone out there knows. ebooks stats aren't great. I mean, he's, he's good, right. I just don't think he's great. He's this year. We have 15 touchdowns. two interceptions and 26 yards 2600 yards passing for for Notre Dame. So I mean it's just he's, I think he's a mediocre or average college quarterback, which means he's gonna probably be he's not gonna have much of a career in the NFL. And he doesn't really pose a threat to Alabama. Moving on game number two, just right.

Rob Kelly: 30:46

I don't care. The final line for that game right now is 20 and a half, which is like, which is like the the Kansas City Chiefs playing the New York Jets. That's, that's that's the type of confidence Vegas has in Alabama in this game right

Michael Marcangelo: 31:01

now. I mean, it opened at 17 and a half.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 31:03

That's That's insane. That's insane. No, that's insane. Yeah, like, wow, that's Wow.

Michael Marcangelo: 31:10

second game of the night. We have the I think they call it the Is it the Sugar Bowl now? Is that what it is? We have the Clemson Tigers versus the six and OH, Ohio State Buckeyes. I think for any college football fan, you can only hope that Clemson, Ohio State Part two is as good as it was

Rayshawn Buchanan: 31:31

last year.

Michael Marcangelo: 31:32

Right? That's the hope. I mean, I think and last season's college football playoff final semi final. clemson Didn't they come back from like a 16 or 17 point deficit and win with Trevor Lawrence. It's like a 35 yard touchdown pass. That's what we need. Like that's if there is a game that will provide you with that New Year's Day revitalization. As you're all hungover. Unable to get out of bed. It's probably going to be this game. Right? Because this this game is it's pretty much it opened at a Clemson their favorite six and a half points. I don't know what it is anymore. This game?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 32:05

Smells way too low.

Michael Marcangelo: 32:07

Is there a touch?

Rob Kelly: 32:08

It's a touchdown. Seven.

Michael Marcangelo: 32:10

Is there a chance that Ohio State can upset Clemson and go on to I mean, because Wouldn't that be the narrative, right is that they don't deserve to be there. They're only won six games. And then they beat the football team that has not the Washington team, but at a football team with the greatest player in college football right now. Trevor Lawrence, what does that say about Ohio State? What does it say about everything?

Rob Kelly: 32:35

I just hope

Michael Marcangelo: 32:37

you don't watch it.

Rob Kelly: 32:38

I hope it doesn't yet. You will agree. I just hope that doesn't happen. Because I'm just I'm so disappointed with Ohio State being in there that I hope Clemson watches them. I think they're going to because I think the Clemson team that we saw against Notre Dame and team we saw the first six weeks is the real Clemson team. What when Lawrence went out, you definitely saw a change. You know, whether it be the COVID or whether it be because they just didn't have the store car star quarterback he when he came back. They definitely didn't look the same until last week. This team is loaded with weapons. I love etn he's been one of my favorite college best college basketball, college running backs for the past three, four years since he came in as a freshman. I really liked his Clemson team and I will you guys know how I feel. But Trevor Lawrence, I think this game is not even going to be close. I think the seven is too small. If I if I was if I was betting man, which we all know I am. I'm taking Clemson. Absolutely.

Michael Marcangelo: 33:41

Do you think that or do you hope that?

Rob Kelly: 33:44

I think that I really do. Because I think travel Lawrence's is too much for this Ohio State team. You know, like, I mean, I guess I haven't seen this exact Ohio State team much this year, especially because they've only played six games. I don't know if I've said that yet. But I just think he's got a he's got to take them over this entire game. I think Trevor Lawrence is the best player in college football. And I think you're gonna see it after this weekend.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 34:08

There's always a chance so you know, so you're saying there's a chance you have stood there, there's a chance that they do something this weekend, but to me, it's not. It's slim to none. It's like It's unbelievable. Once again, I said we all have a gradation and be in this moment. But I know a lot of people from Ohio a lot. And it's like a whole lot a whole lot. Because it's an urban live it's a it's an Urban Meyer from you know, it's ever been my from from my gators, you know, obviously it's hot, real crazy. So t long sunshine. You know, Ronnie bass, I need you to dominate. I need you to have that throw that pitch left. I need you to throw that ball a mile. I need that. You know, left side strong side. I need you to beat their ass. Yes, I need it. I need it. I need it. I'm like I want I want him to put down 50 on him. I want 50 like help you get to 65 I want I want I want it to be an annihilation of epic proportions. Like, that's what I want. You know, and like Bobby said, Listen Deadshot that's the better shot of respect to Ohio State. The hottest thing has been what they've been Clemson's winning this about at least two touchdowns, at least, at least. This is should be over at the half band advanced on the field, that bands would be on the field playing whatever they want to play, you know, Halo, whatever you want to play. It's over. It's over the coronation will happen on Friday night.

Michael Marcangelo: 35:44

I think I think especially, you know, if if the Buckeyes aren't healthy, right, because I think the last game there, they had 22 players that were sidelined for various reasons. So it let's let's just assume that not everyone is able to take the field. Again, I think this makes the governing body look terrible if they put a six node team in there to get smoked, right, that that just that reaffirms everything that we're talking about, on the on the show, they got in because their name is the Ohio State. Right. That's it that is it that there is no other reason as to why they're in this. And I think that you know, Justin fields last year, that guy, the guy was a baller, right? 3200 yards, 41 touchdowns, three picks. This year, we got 1500 yards, 15 touchdowns, five picks, again, only six games, I think he is a very, very dynamic player. I think he is a I would say a great college football player. But for me, and I'd be interested to hear what you have to say about this, Bobby. I think if you're a team that has only played six times in the span of the last five months, it's hard to have formed a rhythm to go against the greatest college football player. Currently, right there now in Trevor Lawrence. So if this is a blowout, how bad does this make the decision to put Ohio State in the tournament? Look,

Rob Kelly: 37:08

it was really bad. I can already see the tweet, you know, you can already see, you can already see the Texas a&m players, the Cincinnati players being like, we could have lost 42 and I was like, yeah, we could have lost 35. You know, you know what I mean? Like that. I can already see them out there. And it's like, I really believe that is going to happen, because even this Ohio State team, the other six and oh, yeah, there's the Ohio State. Yeah, they're in the playoffs last year. And it's pretty much you know, besides the 22 players that were missing the same team from last year. Yeah, but listen, even this year in the games against good teams, like this team hasn't shown up, you know what I mean? Like, even last week against, they were playing with Northwestern, Northwestern, they, they they barely beat I mean, they beat him by two touchdowns, but they beat them. undecisive but he was like the Chiefs this last weekend where you're like, is that team? Is that team playing? Well, like what's going on with them? And they haven't. Has Ohio State played a top team so far this year at all? Joe, I just don't believe I don't see it from them this year. I just don't see it. And I really think the answer looks bad by the end of this and we're gonna see those tweets happening. It's gonna happen.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 38:24

It'll be a Mickey Mouse championship if they win. Yeah, just like a you know, Ohio fan. Listen to me. Just like a lot of basketball was clowning your former product with some of the brawn for that Mickey Mouse championship. It'd be a Mickey Mouse championship for y'all. If y'all finish a no. And when your little national championship, it'd be Mickey Mouse for y'all too.

Michael Marcangelo: 38:44

So it sounds like it's a it's a damned if you do damned if you don't like if they win. It's like screw the governing body for letting them and if they get trounced, it's like see, we told you like screw you for letting them in that there's really no,

Rayshawn Buchanan: 38:55

there's nothing personal for me. It's personal.

Michael Marcangelo: 38:57

You can't tell dude.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 39:01

There's nothing personal So please, please, Trevor Lawrence and Henry a businessman do your job, please.

Rob Kelly: 39:08

It's only personal for me against the NCAA. That's what they just did know me cuz it's like, they just push all the time that you know, they don't push it, but we know that the way that they run things is about money. And it's like, okay, we get it, you put up the Ohio State and but it does any year that people are gonna want to see that expanded tournament that people are going to want to see these teams actually get a chance to win a championship, it's this year, so it's just like, they couldn't have failed more all around. And I hope that's just solidified. When it comes time for the end of this game when it's 35 to nothing, Clemson and people are like well,

Rayshawn Buchanan: 39:41

but I wanna I wanna I want to make a clear cut I think I talked about it being over we talked about it being six teams like I want eight so if you want to give if you want to do it how like NFL does it with you guys? Yeah, that's fine. I want I want that that'd be a better scenario. So make it eight teams so you know then by we can get his coastal current lines in there, you know to get smacked by 40 points.

Michael Marcangelo: 40:04

They wouldn't make it but Cincinnati would because Carolina was ranked a little bit lower. All right.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 40:09

Okay, stop. So So yeah, so you know the bear cascade bear down and lose

Rob Kelly: 40:14

but it's a but it would have been worth it for it's worth it. I know this is like a bigger conversation for like about all college football and how they should expand this but it would be worth it for that one year,

Rayshawn Buchanan: 40:25

you know, no more than one year though, right? But no, I

Rob Kelly: 40:29

mean, like for that one year does happen, you know what I mean? Yes, nine out of 10 years that a team is gonna lose by 40 points, it's gonna happen. But that one time that he takes that one seed down or that takes that top team down, it would be the best story in sports, and we'd be talking about it the entire year. So it's like, Guys, what are you doing here? You know what I mean? You want to make money, make your money. Just do it. Right.

Michael Marcangelo: 40:52

So Ray, I think you're the only person that I know, you know, besides me that could argue an advocate for having more teams in a playoff scenario and then say that trashed teams that go nine and oh, shouldn't be in there because they didn't get smoked. I just thought, so. That doesn't seem like there's a way to make you happy here. I

Rayshawn Buchanan: 41:12

know there's a way to make me happy Ohio State can lose this weekend. I'll be happy.

Michael Marcangelo: 41:15

But I guess if Ohio State loses in Florida was in there, you'd be really happy. Really?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 41:20

Of course, but okay. Okay. Okay. So okay, now now cuz now you put me on a couch now I gotta go to therapy. Alright, so if Florida was the son of the AFC Yeah, of course, let my gay just come in here because my guy cow Trask. Another former student.

Rob Kelly: 41:36

I like how trash man I like,

Rayshawn Buchanan: 41:38

Oh, man. Ah, should we the Hierophant we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna get attacked shortly. But you know, they got my guy for another couple years. One of my former student Nate Kwan, right. No, I'm proud of you big big homie. gotta send it to you when it's done. But proud of you man.

Rob Kelly: 41:54

We have real quick rewind, rewind. You know afford a gator.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 41:58

Yeah, Nick. Nick won right? My former Yeah, one of my former students taught him in 10th grade he's now you know one player of the year down in Miami and um you know when national won the state championship down there as well their junior I think and yeah, so you know, known her for a while still keep in touch with Russia to this day actually. So yeah, he's a really good kid. Really good player. Um, you know, they got some guys that had him so you know, it's been a you know, he's got some opportunities to share but you know, he got his first touchdown this year. So that was dope but um, yeah, so I was like, I just want them to keep grinding so I'd like say it's personal for me not just because that's my team but I got kids that I had that play for him that I want them to do well, so um, and then we I mean, and to add icing on the cake. We have a and once again bias but I just I fell on this or agree with me when they hear this. We had the best tight end all the college football cow pits, six six to 45 um, you know, and you can't teach that. Okay, so you can't you can't you can't teach it so he runs like a wide receiver once again, but I don't want to turn to NFL show. But if you're Derek's if you're dairy 14 cow pits. I would love to see you written up at four foot or red silver and blue. A pair of Foxborough that'd be phenomenal, too. We need you badly Aussie Aussie and Keenan I think so. But like I said, we're not gonna get into that but

Michael Marcangelo: 43:23

you want to see you want to see you want to see Jared sitting through at five yards in front of Instagram. That's we want to say no, I

Rayshawn Buchanan: 43:27

know that. Listen, you're not gonna get me pissed off right now. I don't want to talk about that. But we need at four periodo we need you know,

Michael Marcangelo: 43:34

well before we get to the Heisman talk, can we at least get to our championship game predictions please.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 43:40

Okay, so I got I can I can have started Okay. Hey girl. Yeah, okay.

Michael Marcangelo: 43:45

Yeah, we all have Alabama vs Clemson who wins and why

Rayshawn Buchanan: 43:48

us so I'm gonna go so as much as I can understand I can't stay in Ohio State I cannot stay in Alabama even more Why? Why? Because there Yeah. See, like my Florida Gators

Michael Marcangelo: 44:02

deserve better?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 44:03

No, listen, it's not about them. Yes, there's moments when they have been better obviously I'm not that's that's not the It has been a long time since we wanted to have moments you mean seasons

Michael Marcangelo: 44:12

maybe even a decade?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 44:13

No, we got some victories in between it let's not let's not go crazy. But yes, they've been national champion. They've done some other stuff. So yes, they've been they've been on top left it says Urban Meyer left. They've had a much better time than we did. But you know, that's the other hair they're on and you know, to me, they always for the most will have a cupcake schedule. But once again I know Bobby you play with your front of you I get it but I do have a cupcake schedule. When you play guys in fucking Central Michigan you know that like a one thing like oh, you know we'd be the Central Michigan team like dude like they had if I had one pro come out of there that was in Tonio brown 10 years ago blacks but anyway anyways um I got I got Clemson winning this mainly because I think Trevor Lawrence once again, you need a special type of player to beat Alabama. And um, you know whether it was the Shawn Watson Cam Newton, Johnny Manziel Chevy Lawrence's in that he's in that mode is in that category. So I got come so winning. I think it's going to be an absolute shootout. I'll say Clemson wins 4237

Michael Marcangelo: 45:13

Okay, all right, Bobby, who do you get?

Rob Kelly: 45:16

So I want to go chalk here and I don't want to like just go completely agree here, but I'm going to completely agree I think Clemson is a better team here. Let's remember that Clemson didn't lose much. They have pretty much the same playmakers, the same person running the offense and absolutely the same coach, running the team of a team that beat Alabama. I don't know if everyone remembers this 44 to 16. Last year, Greg Chu was banged up. I know, it wasn't the same Alabama team we'd seen all year.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 45:51

Don't Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. They still had a team and

Rob Kelly: 45:55

but it's still right. But it's still, you know what I mean, it's still

Rayshawn Buchanan: 45:59

discredited. Yeah.

Rob Kelly: 46:02

For 268, and when it comes down to it, this team is better. You know what I mean? I know that they had rough spots to show they move fast to BC, all these things. But listen, like I said last week on the live show success through adversity, and this team showed that, yes, they lost that one game, but it was a great game, and they didn't have their full team. And they still almost pulled that game out success through adversity. clemson is going to smoke.

Michael Marcangelo: 46:29

Let me ask you a question. Right. I mean, I know school is in session. So my hands raised I'm asking question here. If Alabama were to let's say, blow out Clemson. Right, because Trevor Lawrence gets injured in this game. Would you say don't discredit it? Because, you know, it doesn't matter. They still have a team? Or do you say the Clemson loss because Trevor Lawrence wasn't on the field because I just feel like your hatred for Alabama is overcoming you. And you're just not looking at this objectively.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 46:59

Okay, so let me be subject to them. Ah, the guy I forget the backup name but that backup plate phenomenal. And Chevy Lawrence's absence like he was he was great. Now will he do what you saw Washington did and you know some other guys did Alabama? No. arm? Would they lose to them? Sure. But I do I do. I do think that he would make a respectable so instead of it being 40 to 37 like I like I have come some winning. I think that Alabama pie win like 4227 instead. Because that kid's gonna score they scored. Um, you know, I remember that bc game like he was he was dJ

Rob Kelly: 47:37

dJ Luka

Rayshawn Buchanan: 47:38

get to know maga would have thought a Chess Championship, you know, but, um, I just I just think that that's that's just that's just what it is. So, um, subjectively? No, I mean, listen, it's hard to win the championship at any level. So let me just put a put on the the professor cap and not be not not being a hater. I'll be I'll be bias subjectively, it's hard to win a championship on Nick Saban a year in a year has done what he needs to do from a recruiting standpoint, from a coaching standpoint, from a mentorship standpoint. So, um, this would be the last thing that I say nice about them. So Mike, screw you. Um, but you know, they they will win. You know, if I say if he's if he's the go down, instead of them winning by a field goal, meaning Clemson, I think they will lose 14 to 27 to Taliban when that's the case. But it won't, it won't be something where it's watered down because they want

Michael Marcangelo: 48:29

so you both have Clemson beating Alabama, I have Alabama beating Clemson. I think the final score of this game is gonna be somewhere around around like, 4535 I don't think it's gonna be a blowout. I think it's I think it's gonna be reasonably close. I just think that double digit well. Yeah, I just, I think, I think Matt Jones advantage, but they're just too much. I just think that those two are better than Trevor Lawrence is by himself, if that makes sense. And for me, I think that they're going to be that the dynamic duo. I think if if we get this game, it sounds like everyone thinks that it's going to this is going to be the game. There's going to be no one watching this game that is disappointed in the quality of the game because it's going to be an amazing football game to watch. It won't be like last year,

Rob Kelly: 49:14

round three. Is that is that round three. Clemson, Alabama if

Michael Marcangelo: 49:17

it happened? Yeah, it won't be like last year. So

Rayshawn Buchanan: 49:21

what is one one right now? So um, yeah. You know, way, like Dabo said a free free free a few years ago. Excuse me. BYOD bring your own guts, baby. It's right. Let's get it let's make it happen.

Rob Kelly: 49:36

I love Dabo Sweeney, man, he is he is such a great

Rayshawn Buchanan: 49:40

guy. Bobby. I

Rob Kelly: 49:42

know. I love Dabo man and and he really is so that's funny that he said it because like, I you know, I love my Pete Carroll. I love my rah rah guys. And that's exactly what Dabo is. And I think that that's even if warrant isn't up to his full prestige and doesn't play his best game. I think Dabo is enough. I like Dabo better than Nick Saban as a football coach. So I think Dabo could take Alabama and gameplan right. And even if Warrington plays best game, I still think Clemson wins this game. I just think they're better. Travis etn is a real running back

Rayshawn Buchanan: 50:18

but he's sweet. He's wrong. He's wrong. He's wrong for saying that Lauren should still win the highest Mundo? I disagree with that.

Michael Marcangelo: 50:27

It's a perfect segue Ray. Because now that we've just said that we discuss

Rob Kelly: 50:31

the actual, like he's done this before. Yeah,

Michael Marcangelo: 50:33

I mean, have you been practicing? Well, now let's now let's talk a little bit about that, you know, the Heisman because you I think that this is obviously this year again, it's just it's just a weird year. Right. And I think that for the first time in a long time that there is a chance that a wide receiver could win the highest and I think it'd be the first time since 1991. Is that Devin Howard, that that right? So

Rob Kelly: 51:00

is that is that 91? is one Yeah, no.

Michael Marcangelo: 51:03

Yeah. So I think if you know devonta Smith from Alabama, if he if he went to dB, the first non the first non quarterback since Derrick Henry in 2015. Right. Is that right? feels right, and the first wide receiver in the last 29 years. So for you. I'll start with you. Right, because you offered me that excellent segue. Who's your Heisman winner and why?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 51:28

So objectively, Kyle Trost, um, objectively I mean, come on my mama said by subjectively suggesting an object. Yeah. Uh, oh, no, maybe it was a Freudian slip. I guess I go make Bobby a sandwich. Listen to that interview shouldn't show up in the show notes. But, uh, uh, okay. I'd like to couch has to me was awesome. But I mean, I just he's not gonna when you're with him having three losses. So, um, do you think I do? I do think it would be because Matt Jones is a cat is a final suit. Right? Yeah. Yeah. So I think he'll probably end up getting it. They're not going to give it to the vontae Smith only because he just one player of the year and usually when they do that. It's like, Oh, you know, we'll just give him this because he's not gonna end up winning the Heisman. So I'm gonna say the NFL like, oh, like, well, he got the AP Player of the Year. That means he's not that he that person not getting the MVP award. So you know, so they don't usually develop like that. So I think Matt Jones gets it. I'm, like, like Mike alluded to, they are the best duo. Um, you know, I'm choking, as I say, that kind of makes me sick. But they have been the best tool and I'll call it football. So, you know, we we have to be objective on here and not subjective. So

Michael Marcangelo: 52:45

whenever you want to just I'm just gonna call you on your bullshit. No,

Rayshawn Buchanan: 52:47

no, no, no, no. I mean, no, that's that's that that's fine. But you know, it, you know, like I said, I'm already I'm already emotional about, you know, Florida not doing much when it matter at the end, but it is what it is. But no, Matt Jones, Jones deserves it. Um, you know, so you know, the headlines and Tuscaloosa can be returning to Mac when he wins it.

Michael Marcangelo: 53:07

I mean, wouldn't it make sense though, for you? I mean, Kyle Trask right. 46 total touchdowns, 43 throwing, you know, 4100 yards passing pass, averaging just under 400 yards passing per game. That's, I mean, that that feels like, you know, there's there is a compelling case, I think, again, this is the year I want to jump about, I think that you're just gonna I think you have a little bit different of a take than I have. I hope that you do if you don't, then we can just cut this out and post I think the last day so that should be the guy. I think for a guy that has 17 touchdowns in a season with 13 of those 17 came in the final six games after the other wide receiver general model went out. So he stepped up he was and is not if not the number one reason the number one a reason as to why this team, this Alabama team is where it is my son I thought I guess I hope is that demonte Smith is is the Heisman winner this year, Bobby you.

Rob Kelly: 54:03

So I like so I love devonta Harris devante Smith, I think he's got to be a comparable wide receiver to what we've been seeing out of like, DK Metcalf in the NFL. Where that rookie year he's gonna he's gonna just rack in the NFL. However, I think Mack Brown deserves that Heisman I really do. Or Matt Jones, why don't keep fucking up the last name. Texas Democrat, right. I think I think Matt Jones deserves that Heisman because, like we've been seeing it is always the quarterback that wins that Heisman. And to lead your team in such a crazy 2020 to a dominant number one seed and a team that everyone's gonna vote for the Heisman winner. I just think that it just seems chalk that he's gonna win is just the way that the Heisman voters go, you know what I mean? You have the best team in the country with the best quarterback in the country with the best statistical season and he's not the best quarterback in the country, but statistically right now he is, besides Kyle Trask, right? So besides, but besides because he's in the car traffic isn't gonna win. You know what I mean, you look at 11 or no, I Obama, number one about to win the national championship in the college football playoffs is just the way that the Heisman voters Vote Joe borrow one Kyler Murray one, Baker Mayfield one all these guys were competing for the national championship and their quarterbacks. It's got to be it's got to be matchup what I

Michael Marcangelo: 55:34

will say about the about the evolution of the offense for Alabama. And this is the case that if I were voting for Matt Jones, I would make to everybody else there is there's only been 10 times in Alabama's history where a quarterback is central more than 400 yards. Right. Matt Jones has four of them this year. This year. I mean, and you want to just if you want to, if you want to just want to add on to it. He has 18 touchdowns and three picks against ranked opponents this year.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 56:03

Yeah, it's a joke. It's a joke. How good he's been. Um, you know, once again, I know. You know there's a team of a fox Brogan there needs a quarterback so barely. So

Rob Kelly: 56:14

on the Kyle Trask point right

Rayshawn Buchanan: 56:16

now. We'll see if

Rob Kelly: 56:18

it's not is he not? Kim Kibo that can throw is that what Kyle Trask is that he

Rayshawn Buchanan: 56:27

is not he's not. He's not see. I mean, he's built. He sees he's sick. He's six, five, to 40 and you know, I'm good. I you know, you gotta be going there for a second arm is amazing. Somebody was on the basket flipper. Frank's sucked. He bloats he was awful.

Michael Marcangelo: 56:43

Can you go under center? Or is it can he can he not?

Unknown: 56:46

He can do he can do both. He's better. He's better

Rob Kelly: 56:50

on Kiba already, right? Yes. Yeah,

Rayshawn Buchanan: 56:52

yeah, exactly. But, you know, which hurts me to say that because we also share the same birthday but she was my guy but I do have Kiba Yeah, you know, uh, you guys remember? Me? I felt like I felt like trash really reminded me a Jew bless Oh, boba lakes. Um, I think he's built like I'm six five to 40 can throw it all over the field clearly as and when you get 45 touchdown 44 touchdowns. arm. And granted, he's not going to run. Just cuz he can run like when he when he needs to. Right. So, um, to me, I guess now the monadic prayers because I said you know, like, oh, who's your boss? Oh, if you're not, I mean, granted, we're knowing ourselves so people know who the hell he is. But, um, it for the younger fans who never saw that number 11 play? Um, you know, you just saw you the quarterback. I'm gonna compare him to you just saw him waxen patriots last night and that's just Allen. That's that's always like, he's he's just like Josh Allen. And if that's the case, we'll be back on top very soon. You already have first.

Michael Marcangelo: 57:56

So we have I have devonta Smith. You have Matt Jones? Yeah. Yep,

Rayshawn Buchanan: 58:03

yep. Unfortunately we got so we're

Michael Marcangelo: 58:05

all going Alabama I'm just the contrarian is always picking the wide receiver which would be the first one as I said since 1991. To do it. He's favorite

Rob Kelly: 58:14

by the way. devonta Smith vontae. Smith is the is the right now. favorites.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 58:19

Because Because he got to play it a year. I just I don't see him getting both like I mean, like it'd be cool to see that happen because like you said since there's 91 um, hopefully he's a better pro than Jasmine Howard was because my God set up to get to get picked fifth overall by Detroit and do nothing. I mean, he was a simple MVP, but that's because he ran us off

Rob Kelly: 58:39

and I got paid bank by okay.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 58:40

Yeah, exactly. It did nothing after that. But you know, side rabbit hole, rabbit, rabbit All right. Yeah. So

Michael Marcangelo: 58:48

before before we create you, you guys show let's go ahead and end this one. So hey, Bob Kelly. ratio. Um, you can the greatest EP on the land. Craig D'Alessandro. This is Michael Mark Angeles saying thank you so much for listening to missing the point college football edition. We will talk to you later.

Craig D'Alessandro: 59:04

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