NBA Playoff Preview and Predicting the 2022 NBA Awards

Rayshawn Buchanan: 1:02

Welcome into the next edition of missing the point I am Hollywood ray with my guy. There'll be K Bob Kelly. It's playoff season baby. So are you doing tonight

Rob Kelly: 1:11

man? I'm good man. I'm good. It feels good to be home arrow feet feels good to be talking about basketball playoffs again man it's good time. Good time in general.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 1:23

Yeah, obviously you know our Celtics are killing it but like I said, we're gonna speak about the NBA as a whole. So you know we'll start with the Western Conference and I find the Eastern Conference is definitely better and they have more teams that are better top to bottom so but we'll get into that but yeah starting with the Western Conference obviously are finished ran away with this you know they have been did overall number one seed you know, for either conference or don't have home courts throughout but they most likely are going to face the winner of the clippers and whoever didn't at the time see this in the West. So you know, just starting with that team there you does Phoenix sweep that team do you think they go six? Like what do you think

Rob Kelly: 1:58

Yeah, no, they're gonna sweep. Well, isn't. This happens there? Phoenix Suns team is honestly one of the best regular season teams that has ever existed in the NBA in terms of metrics in terms of wins in terms of just overall dominance throughout the season, man, I really, it doesn't matter who they go up against, honestly, especially if it's the Clippers because there's just a bunch of choke artists. I don't think it really matters. I do know that Phoenix Suns team man is by far the best team that Washington Conference in my opinion, but I don't think it's even close. So yeah, I think they ended up sweeping them. At most if it's the Clippers, I know I just said they're truck drivers. But if it is the clippers, I think that they can get one because they do have Paul George it's possible a shell of Kawhi could come back. I know he's been injured. But I think it's possible that they go 5. But man, that's what seems so good. Oh, good. Yeah.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 2:53

I mean, easily. I mean, obviously, you know, to go back into the archives, obviously, the last time I think they both won in the West might have been 2010 I think. And the other day in

Rob Kelly: 3:03

Amar'e Stoudemire days.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 3:04

Ya the Amar'e Stoudemire days, obviously, you know, they had the number one seeds back in, you know, early 90s When Charles Barkley you know, got there and they end up losing in the finals to Chicago. So, you know, they they have had some excuses when they've been really prominent in the NBA and I think this is just the best record the franchise ever hadn finished. They were 65 and 17. So you know, I feel like you've got to get to the finals at least or at least the Western Conference Finals for people to deal with remember this season the way that it should be remembered

Rob Kelly: 3:31

now they gotta they gotta get for the finals. Did they lose before the finals? Bro? It's a it's a failure of a season right? I mean, it to sell out the Celtics won 64 games, and were by far the best team from beginning to end of that season and loss before they got to the finals. Would you ever think that that season would be salvaged in terms of your opinion of it?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 3:52

So well, since you asked for that. So I mean, granted, it's a little different because Kevin Garnett got hurt that year, they go 62 months, they were like they were I think they were 40 4018 when he got hurt, you know, they go he didn't sue to pose out. And you know, they go seven was Chicago, obviously go seven with Orlando. And at that time, they had lost the game seven in Boston, you know, he didn't start blue in the company go crazy. And you know, losing that. So yeah, and that case, yes. I was pissed all day, they should have at least gotten to the conference finals, after they would have beat Lebron again, in my opinion, that year. But that's another sofa for another day. But yes, I took to your point yesterday. You're absolutely right, they have to at least make your Finals appearance. Once again. It is hard to win a championship. They were two games away from being the champions last year. Chris Paul coming in healthy at the app to have an injury. You know, thankfully, it happened in the regular season and not, you know, in the in the second round, so they just gotta keep plugging along. Now. Heck, if you're getting, you know, 2019 Kawhi. him and Paul George may be enough to at least push that series of six or seven because of how they have the offensively you know what they can do. You know, defensively in between Covington Powell will you know, Nick platoon, which is wild, he's had a resurgence Russell Schultz entire Tyronn Lue for that. And it was between with Denver Water and basically was becoming another Gordon Hayward.

Rob Kelly: 5:12

Yeah, he was in. He's in Washington, and he was tapped right now. He

Rayshawn Buchanan: 5:15

was a Charlotte he was. Yeah. So that that was just that was awesome. So you don't say so he was you know, he got the 100 20 million goes to the agent. And you know, to read the rest was history. But needless to say Pheonix should definitely, you know, get it done, and I'm looking forward to see where they do come playoff time. So

Rob Kelly: 5:35

wait, can I ask you a question about COVID? When did Tyrone Liu become referred to as theBill Belichick of basketball. Have you ate wasn't the analysis alluded to this a few times last night and I don't know if you heard it or not. But like it got mentioned more than once. So is that have you heard that before? I'm just because I had never heard it before it I couldn't believe that they said was he fucking call Tyrone Liu though, that will check a basketball what happened?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 6:03

Yeah, I didn't I missed that because I was at my my second job. But that's why, once again, he is a phenomenal young coach. I don't want to I don't want to get it twisted and make it seem like I'm blasting him because that's not the case. But you know, this level says yes, he's won a ring. You know, he's been to a couple of finals as a coach, right. But to say to us that like now if you want to compare under Popovich, but even now, he's not he's not that guy. There's a few guys that have won one. You know, there's so many that has won or not, and chose him. I think he's, I think if he went, if he was to win one in LA, then I think maybe that that changes what people's perception is. I think what I think what it is, people are saying regardless of what you give him, he based he makes lemons out of lemonade, right? So I mean, he made lemonade out of lemons. So they had been terrible all year. I'm not terrible, but he waited all year right now he's been out kawaii has been out. So I think that's what the comparisons come from. So I just think that that's where they I tried to draw the comparison Once again, I hope they don't stay on stream anything from that. Forget that. It is a reached, they're stretching. I'd have to add that right. Yeah. You'll it might hurt an oblique muscle doing that. So let's we'll see. But once again, phenomenal coach, but let's let's pump the brakes to saying that he's already in that category. Because once again, athlete he has a long way to go to get there but who knows he may be in the Hall of Fame someday after he's done. Right? Yeah. Obviously. So yeah. So next, you know, Brian house 2.0 against the Minnesota Timberwolves. So, what do you got in that one?

Rob Kelly: 7:34

Man, I absolutely love this Memphis team. I walked out even without jobs the past few months man or the past few weeks. They still just been dominant. They just play great basketball. And you know how I feel about great basketball bro it's it's such a day they don't turn the ball over. They play great defense and they create great shots. You know what I mean? They're they literally do when you think about the fundamental of basketball checklist. That's how you do it man and they check off all the boxes. I know that if you add in a John Moran that electric playmaker to this culture or to whatever they got going on there because honestly, like you look up and down the roster med Memphis isn't like, yeah, they're talented. They got some guys on there, but they don't have anyone on there that really jumps off the page at you. You know what I mean? Desmond bein awesome. Steven Adams besides

Rayshawn Buchanan: 8:28

doll. What's that right

Rob Kelly: 8:30

besides job right here? sighs John. Scott, literally John literally jumps off the page. Yeah, he jumped. Well, yeah, besides job they really don't have anyone else that really is. A weak basketball player. You don't have good basketball players, nor has anyone else had great and here they are. To see he played great basketball. But I gotta save him. I love having Minnesota there. They're not going to win this series. But I love the Timberwolves are finally back in the playoffs. They had a great basketball moment last night. And man, Anthony Edwards was awesome last night he was amazing.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 9:10

Oh, so was Pat Bev on the line, bro.

Rob Kelly: 9:12

So Adeline didn't miss anything today. This isn't Paul Pierce in game five of the goddamn Eastern Conference Finals coming back. 25 points jumping on table. Okay. You want to play in game, bro? Like, take it down one notch because you could be pumped. You can talk shit. You can be hyped, bro. The first thing you do cannot be to jump on the scorer's table. I'm sorry, man. I can't do that.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 9:47

I'm here for it. I'm here for I'm here for what's the opposite? I'm not the biggest independent bevel I'm not listen, I think that he's appointments Marcus. Martin, like, don't get me wrong, but I'm here for it. Like it. He said. He said he did an interview on Twitter. Like, think about what Minnesota has been through the last few years. Right, ya know, early for sure. Like five or six years old Finch

Rob Kelly: 10:05

Jimmy Butler. RIGHT. Jimmy Butler? No. On top of off the court like this. Okay, okay. Okay.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 10:12

Philando Castile was the oh my gosh, George Floyd, do it. I know, there's more that I'm missing. But those are the two names that stick out. Right. So, so much that city's been through. They've been the epicenter of a lot of Black Lives Matter stuff and just, you know, just really just going no going crazy as a city and you know, really in kind of leading that kind of spreading to all throughout the nation. Excuse me as I got to WeChat it's all getting

Rob Kelly: 10:36

excited over there. Yeah.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 10:38

Yeah. So I'm, I'm excited to see them and what See, I think maybe that's where part of it was part of it was shit. Okay. We had a good thing running here like remember they took that Golden State team a couple years ago, six games with him and Lou Williams has been, you know, basically being the offense. That's why there's Pat bevers. I know vobis Indigo ba was good. He was great in high school, but he had some flashes in Arkansas, you know, before getting into the NBA, but that's what I was about. So, I mean, listen, people have been going crazy about that all day as we record this on, you know, on a Wednesday, I'm on April 30. But I didn't really laugh It was a plenty of players were entertained. As you said it was it needed to He's entertaining once again, I can't stand him as a player. But I was thoroughly entertained. I don't lose it.

Rob Kelly: 11:25

So we already actually I was on a crowbar to the podcast where we did talk about Celtics everyone's to go check about that if you want to hear Celtics stuff. JJ Reddick podcast, right. He talked about he was talking to don't remember. But he was talking about the biggest trash a job and beat you're talking to him beat. He was talking about the biggest trash talkers in the NBA. Right. And he said something like, Joelle led the line. If guys are going to talk trash, at least like we're gonna back it up. And he's like, I'm not going to name names and JJ stops who was like, I'm gonna name it for you. Right? And he goes, he goes, Pat, Bev, and Joe just started dying laughing bro, because of the PAP EP. Who's 100% talking about pap, pap. This dude talks like he's a top five player in the NBA. And he's good he's he's good. But he's not special. It's just so funny to me man. Hey, just listen pap I was gonna It's like Manny being Manny pap I was gonna be pap AB and he's gonna continue to be this guy for the rest of his career. So I guess we just got to enjoy it You're right.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 12:29

It was like that hit those and Texas was kept him in the league. And that's what we forget that if it were like that those antics those, though that that fire that irrational confidence. Like that's what's kept him in the league this long. So, you know, he's bounced around. So we'll just Houston LA, obviously now here hitting on in Minnesota, which is basically got ducted to be exiled. Right. Like, you know, the basketball is when you think I'm gonna be so, so crazy. I say exotic basketball buttons. You woke posted and I Yeah, yoga. Yeah. To the city limits. Right. But he um, yeah, I mean, he's found a way and it really is proof that when you have one veterinarian that has been battle tested that it's been it's really hard to get off the money as they say now adays it's a trickle down effect, because Karl Anthony Towns was not talking that greasy before Pat. Bev got there. And wasn't it he played with Jimmy Jimmy when he was still he was 2021 with Jimmy got this and now you know, he's 2325 26 Now, a little more of a man. Unfortunately, you know, yeah, the tragic death of his mom. So some other things have kind of changed him mentally and how? Yeah, kind of Yeah, kind of. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Made him grow real quick, right. Um, the other challenge to Georgia was still Hey, John, how are you? Yeah, also, oh, you know, that also helps. Right? That also helps the cause but I just think they Yeah, you know, you get a guy that's that spicy and he cares about winning that much. It trickles down to Cat it trickles down so D low. It took us out to Anthony Evans, who any of us don't like that this t he is a sort of

Rob Kelly: 13:58

dog. I'm pretty light called himself Jesus earlier this season, didn't it?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 14:02

Anyway, it is what he was going to court is gearing for Holi on the court. The he's dropping out blessings on a regular basis just saying. Yeah, yeah. So he's dropping out blessings on a regular so it is very fitting this coming into Easter weekend just saying so. Just say so. But yes, I mean, we got carried away but yes, ministers are willing to series. Yeah. I'll let you talk about 70 Yeah, I ever listened to that when the series met Fisher witness and they should put it at five honestly to Minnesota had been there. Those guys not been in the wild. Memphis is one guy they had been needed is really the first big one

Rob Kelly: 14:38

potentially set for Steven Adams. He's the only one Right exactly. So

Rayshawn Buchanan: 14:42

once again, calming presence veteran you don't say like that matters. And I thought that was I thought that was huge when they got him in the offseason, even though they loved Ciutadella Childress has been had been a staple there. He'd been a staple in Toronto, we sometimes forget the he was a top 10 You know, pick up the heat with number five, I think in 2011 And that's the Kawhi draft and I think he was he did a solid player nevertheless, but either way we both got Memphis there so we'll move on to the next area. So I love the season. I'll start first on this so go to state and Denver you know we'll get into talking about who we have for regular season award the job that Nicola Yogesh has done has been nothing short of amazing you know, to lose Mary to lose MPJ to have a part time starter and Aaron Gordon and um, that's a shot that you know, he's healthy. He's he picks it choose. Lee wants to be great Melissa slam dunk contest. And it's so annoying because he's so talented. So Nevertheless, I'm excited to see what Denver is going to do but I feel that they're going to be going home and six games Golden State Lucidchart He's gonna come back with a steep curve to say all he wants to say about, you know, maybe he's gonna do this maybe he's gonna do that he's probably been practicing for a couple of weeks and he just had to put it out there play is going to come back I think going crazy and then you're motivated Draymond, as much as I can't stand him. It's a very good dream one. So between the that Jordan pool, you know, Andrew Wiggins has figured it out. They're in Golden State. So yeah, they have a lot of interchangeable pieces. They didn't go to state and I just think that they're really motivated to get back on the run and say, Hey, a lot of y'all forgot how good this team is where the team then went to five show you finals, where the team that would have won five straight if it wasn't for if it wasn't for injury, they wouldn't want five straight. So I think they hit they're there to reclaim and rebuild what they had. And, you know, I think they'll be screaming domination, you know, you know, come coming into the first round, so I gotta go to say the six

Rob Kelly: 16:31

for I, to me, it depends on what Golden State we see. This season. We'll go save the towel to tapes. Right. We got early season Golden State, where it Stephon curry, Draymond Green plan like they did. What, three, four years ago now. Right? Or this new Golden State? who struggles to put away teams? I think they lost. I think they lost 20 Point leads like two out of three games at one point down the stretch here. They have struggled, ma'am. And I don't know who they have that can stop you. Okay. The key is, is even if your kid scores 50 points, you also score and for the nuggets, you know what I mean? Jamal Murray is not walking out of the title. I'm pretty sure he's been ruled out for the series. I'm not sure. And I just think, you know, it really depends on that supporting cast in Denver because yokuts is going to be Oakridge. 100% in time. There's nothing you could do, especially if you're starting to count senators come on Looney, Jeff queen, nothing you can do. Though, he's not a scrub, but he can't stop Yogesh man, you know,

Rayshawn Buchanan: 17:34

I mean, that's not saying was not not not many. Right,

Rob Kelly: 17:37

right. It's done. But I don't know. We'll see. It depends on what were your show up to me. I don't know if I can make a decision until that first game but if you had to make me pick, I think I'm gonna pick the Warriors. I think if it's that team that I'm taking, it could be as easy as five because if carries carry man, the nuggets are gonna get old math in this series. It's over right? It's over is curry is not shooting like he's accustomed to which we see. When courage hurt. His shooting percentage drops dramatically sometimes. Rite Aid it really depends on him that I

Rayshawn Buchanan: 18:09

made today better hope that he has a six foot 22 But that could happen and your recovery like it's either he's either six or 22 or who's 13 and 18 You're like there's no limits. So it's like it's our ROI and out of the fortunate 19 There'll be like 12 of 16 from Sir It's a joke. It's a joke

Rob Kelly: 18:33

where he's carried where he's turned into people in the fucking crowd for even shooting he's like oh

Rayshawn Buchanan: 18:39

the presses like it's the Bugatti like that said why this is not a controlled man. So what? Yeah, well listen, I'm excited to see that series The most overlooks I am a big outside of what we do for what we watch the Boston talking about Boston like I am a huge Nikolas Dover supporter and once again that is not the last time you were here his name on this show I promise you that so last but not least we had the four or five matchup we have Utah versus Dallas so I'll let you go first.

Rob Kelly: 19:09

What do you have and I really want to pick Dallas here as not because of my cowboys allegiances it's because of Luca Darja. It's man it really so that's I was just gonna say depends on Luca because if a Luca is not there with him this is no it's a no brainer Utah's winning this series you know what I mean? Like if Luca is not playing Dallas is not good. Would that look a Dallas might win 20 games a season? Listen, look, bro Lucas, Luca, he's there. He is their team. He's what they operate around. He isn't just a 30 point a game guy. He's their offense. You know what I mean? Like everything revolves around Wouk all their screens, all their fucking movements, everything they do revolves around Luca. So you take him out of the equation that team's gonna have a lot of trouble scoring. I love Jalen Brunson. love him to death. I love all their fucking guy can take with it, but I love that to them. What are you doing what you're doing? Thank you. I really liked Dinwiddie but without Luca none of those guys are doing what they're doing. You know and we've seen Dinwiddie be amazing guy. Right? He can be 20 guys or two or three. You know what I mean? Didn't look as awesome when he's you. You put Dinwiddie in a role where he has to do that, bro I've seen it before. And he can very easily go oh of nine and one or N O of four from three. You know what I mean? Did we didn't really use a very streaky guy would that look or they're in trouble? If Luca plays I'm picking Dallas Luca is not there or Lukas hobbled or it's a different Luca I gotta pick Utah man you have to just because they're for strength they got Mitchell go bear and then you go down list

Rayshawn Buchanan: 20:53

in CP I'm already shaking my head before I don't I don't says Utah I don't I'm sorry I can't and once again once I love Donovan Mitchell I've been who is a supreme talent peel he's box off as someone on there for live network role he says he's box office like he is the real beer once

Rob Kelly: 21:10

again Finn he said I've had a good fit I'll

Rayshawn Buchanan: 21:13

finish really yeah I'll just bring him up to but yeah like you just know I'm Suzy counting are worse on new or fair and my suppose listen be counting on Rudy go ready give me 2020 late No, I'm not doing it. So once again their office is Donovan Mitchell or bust and once again he's gonna score he's gonna get his 2530 at night but you know once again you know he got mad with Shaq calling him I think in a bubble or monumental last year was second was like now the algorithm and championship and he was like No art okay you say no I but I'm like you're constantly do well constantly get the top five teams in the West which is hard to do. But are you still going home in the first or second round? You know, I mean great. I know Dave Ramsey he said a couple times they ran into I think Georgia State earlier too so obviously those teams were a lot more talented and just you know everywhere not just want like just you know say like it was basically Donovan on like 105 I also think it was the you know a funny Danny ages now the you know the president of basketball operations over there with special counsel everyone on call but he's he's running to win a trade show ingles. And once again people will say helping us and showing us know when you trade guys like that that are free in the community. They're in a locker room and is not scared at the moment. He was a PG space a couple of years remember he was like oh you're saying so he was obviously the three G he said he said to the crowd like what do you have guys like that are never going to be the best player on the team. But everyone just kind of caters to them not indicated but you just really rally Luke the glue guy bro well yeah, thank you yeah, thank you for finishing my sentences like we've done this before. But it's just like that that's just what it is like you that you cannot eat I know he was hurt because he was hurt so I think that's why they ended up moving in. I think to New Orleans I believe I believe in the kill Walker Alexander once again. To kill walk I was into was really good at college was really good. He's average, maybe two or three more points that you and I in the NBA just say. So. It's just like joining us to shoot the three pieces in a place of defense. 3.5 Okay, gotcha. Dewpoint Okay, yeah, you don't say I grant

Rob Kelly: 23:21

No, nice nice a nice, right.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 23:27

Yeah, whatever. Yeah, there you go. Nice reference set. Thanks for saving. But yeah, I got I think it just went this the same way you treat a guy like that. That's that hurts. Now to the downside. I'm a big fan of Dinwiddie I, but without Luca, I feel like they are the 2019 Brooklyn Nets. So remember that team had Dinwiddie levert jared allen DeAngelo Russell right. So they were the 16th and East find out the animals of the 50 in the first round that year but they took them forever No right maybe it was seven maybe it was seven I don't know but they want to lower they want to lower half

Rob Kelly: 24:05

that meant they took them to seven didn't they? Though they lost the sex. Okay sex yet but a really great, great

Rayshawn Buchanan: 24:11

series but this is what that this is what Dallas would be I felt like without without truly without Luca. Jalen brassica, who Dominica during your Finney Smith and I listen, I this is wishful thinking because I know they're not going to do this. They just gave them an extension. He is perfect for the Boston Celtics. But was it once again? Well, it's that that's how we get to the offseason we'll speak about some guy that could be agile team. He is an easing that he is a dream catlike defender pitch threes like that's East phenomenal. In my opinion in his role. He's funny, he's a star and his role as a doctor was used to say, but maybe this is what he missed kPa. I had a friend of mine, you know reached out to me earlier today about that. Maybe just the way they make herself present. Yes, because he is someone that could have been the go to guy he easily can get you 25 When he's on you know, we saw it in New York and saw some pieces of it down here down there and in Dallas, so So yeah, I'm still gonna ride with Dallas. I just I just I just don't trust you. And once again maybe just by default they say because the health they may get out the first round but Utah to me does nothing for me. It is weird because Utah religious for really the last 40 years, I guess. Because you know, when you go back to Stockton, and I was drinking that

Rob Kelly: 25:25

day, they just can't get it done.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 25:30

So yeah, can't they can't get it done, but there's only they don't have another gear they can go to offensively. Right? It's just basically give us a one or two guys eyes and then just go from there. So, you know, even you know, so obviously it was talked to them alone. They had another Malala Nicole Jeff Malone who played in Washington before he got there. It was a really good score. Yeah, so yeah, that's that's certainly a job for some guy out there. Right so Jeff alone Jeff Hornacek right bar Russell, you know, that's the same team that score 54 In a finals game, which is the worst output offensive output of all time in a playoff in a playoff setting. So yeah, I mean, listen, it's just been a constant thing that you try something really really a middle of a pack team which is the worst thing to be to do that you want to be in a contender where you wouldn't be someone that's in a cellar so that you can get better to give back to that contender status so but once again, I won't keep rambling I gotta go with I gotta go with Dallas even though Luca seems a bit hobbled so that we can agree but we you so you said you got Phoenix coming off the west you got finished coming out? That was Yeah,

Rob Kelly: 26:34

I don't get I think it's a clear they're the best you look down this entire estimate. Every single team in the West has major major flaws on it. So they mean like things that you're like, okay, that could kill them that could kill them that the only one that doesn't is is Phoenix even without Chris Paul wrote the last month and a half they've looked awesome you know the desert Devin Booker's now a dog you got Paul Aten Crowder like you just go down the list where like, it doesn't matter who's on the court. They're the same team and I think that's what great teams do. I don't think there's anyone out there. Honestly, I don't know if there's anyone in the West that can even push them to six minute I think they are by far away. I have I have an answer. I'll we will get to it. But I think that the I don't think there's anyone there. I'm intrigued to see who you think now

Rayshawn Buchanan: 27:30

as who who is. Oh, it's gonna stay bro. Gonna do you tank? Yes, correct. Listen, whenever curry and Paul have got together he has made Chris up to bow down to the master. He has you had so it's like, time and time again. So if you're not down with that, I got two words for you. Steph Curry you don't say so knows what. Steph Curry baby like he's the bed. He's the man when it comes to those two playing against one another. So all day healthy. New Orleans wasn't good. We just spoke about how if he's honest, gonna be over five. Once again. That's a different team, the man who had been playing Twister out there. He's been he's made him pray on the court. You name it. He's done in 10. So yeah, I'm riding with a healthy Golden State. And once again, I joined the pool to me just to get his cam Johnson you know better than Jae Crowder. It wasn't gonna be TJ Carter plate but I gotta give credit J to everywhere he's been. They went on while outside of Dallas. Good. Dallas is early wins for everyone who's been T has been a contender. So he he is a very good role player. He is definitely a star in his role. I forgot about my image of mine when he was in Miami Dade and wants to find those feet is going to the finals last year so and have a chance to go back this year. So So you heard it here. I'll miss the point. So Bobby got Phoenix I got I got going to stay going to the finals out of the west. So

Rob Kelly: 28:49

real quick when we get into these. You don't wait I have a little did you know I saw this that. Chris Paul. I don't know if it can be understated how awesome this guy is. I honestly am doing this because I want him to get his championship and I think he's going to because it would take the only question mark off probably, actually, in my opinion. Definitely the best point guard to ever play in the NBA bed. It's he's all the shirt how good he is at getting teams to win. He has three separate franchises right after this year, he has now led them to their best record in franchise history. There's the Hornets back in the early years. Then we have the rockets when he was on the rocket. And now the sons he is unbelievable. And I just hope this to catch his ship. So that's why I'm writing I'm writing Felix just for him. Even even with the clippers, and even the thunder bro. You know what he brought to the playoffs? When I like to post to be a taking season. It's like go to no matter. No matter where he goes. If Chris Paul is your point guard, you're going to win game. You cannot have this dude and expect to lose. He's unbelievable. Until you get to game Saturday. That's it.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 30:01

But we'll say but right but that's why I remember back in the day when they were saying Oh, was you and they were looking at a tree Rondo during this hopefully in a heartbeat. Right? That was the only guy at the time I was like there's no one else I'm trading Rajon Rondo for and I know that people are saying that that was crazy. And I know like Rondo shows up when he matters in the polls at that time. And that wasn't that wasn't inaccurate. Obviously still does wonders. Right? So yeah, exactly. They need a little more from last summer next to coach and sauce. So but other than that, you know, but it's working We got it. Yeah. So that's just that but yeah, we'll see. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see what happens. But now let's get over to the Eastern Conference man so you know I think I'm trying to do Oh, obviously they're going to face the winner of Charlotte Atlanta

Rob Kelly: 30:54

chargers la show Atlanta. You know when it goes to Yeah, a winner and who's the fucking Who's the other one? Oh, it'd be limited to see the big O Cleveland duck. Yeah, Mike. Yeah, football, doesn't. It

Rayshawn Buchanan: 31:07

doesn't matter who's in there. But I want to see Atlanta when I want to see Atlanta against Miami. I think that would be a phenomenal series. I think Trey Young would have whenever he wants against, you know, Miami, just kind of like he can't He can't stay with him. Not the states that have the legs anymore. Yeah, yeah. No, not at all. And that neither did soccer Robinson. Nobody on as he has the legs to stay with Trey young. So obviously Miami, you know, they earned the best frickin nice. And they had a little bit of a slip up a few weeks ago, but they seem to break the ship a little bit. So based off whoever they face it, whether it's Charlotte or not, Charlotte wasn't us, Atlanta or Cleveland. You know, what do you think Miami does against them?

Rob Kelly: 31:48

I don't even think we didn't talk about that much. But I was gonna win the series. I was Miami's got to lease the Miami's the most disrespected one scene. One scene I've ever seen, man. It's unbelievable. It's crazy how little people were talking about this team. They scare the shit out of me. If I'm being honest, they really do. Because it's that he culture man. It's exactly what we're trying to build here in Boston. Exactly what we talked about Fern our honor our interview with Jared Weiss, which you can find over on the Kroger live feed. It's it's exactly what you want to build for a playoff basketball team as they just like a win man. And with Butler harrow out of Ohio. With all these guys just going down the roster, man, there's there's no chance to the Hawks or the Cavs unless Allen comes back but he never comes back. He's not gonna come back healthy. So there's no chance no chance Miami is losing that first round. No.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 32:47

When you say most of the specter one. See, I think that there's a team of North that we're both a fan of that was super disrespected to

Rob Kelly: 32:55

I know I got into I got to our arguments about it. No,

Rayshawn Buchanan: 32:59

matter of fact, they had the same record as my until they were 29. And, you know, it was just you know, it was a tough five mg candidate. Now granted, it all could have went away because a runner was to get hurt. Chicago probably sweeps us in the first round. That's how bad it was. You know, people don't remember because they beat beat. Unfortunately, Rondo got hurt, but that series was going to be over because randoms I hear yelling, they quit. They quit type thing. So it was tough. But you know, obviously, you know, we were there for the Washington series. You know, we're both here for game seven. That was awesome to see. But no, but no, I see what you're saying. And but for the respect level, that I'm using it I know that already I know. Mike is a you know, now was a resident supportive, but he respects their organization a lot and love the softness, you know, because they're not miss images as he was saying so yes, I think that Miami will be whoever they play in the first round, but it's not going to be something where they stop all over who they will replay. I think they played Cleveland. They'll go dog walking, but Atlanta without a live it'll take him six at least.

Rob Kelly: 34:03

Yeah, Larry's got his dog linens. Got a dog a dog can at least when you want it to game you don't want again, like when you got to Trey young, you got to Trey Young. Right, exactly. So we got Cleveland. Cleveland got Darius garland. Not Troy Young.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 34:17

Right. Exactly. And once again, he he was great. The other night, but he's not someone that

Rob Kelly: 34:21

he's not going to drop 54 You know? Yeah, exactly.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 34:25

I'm not scared to him board off so Exactly. Perfectly said. So next. So we did speak about this on the on the six months or so. So we won't go too much into it. But you know, I know. You said you had the subjects and six and I have the substance in seven so so he would have five so five. So he got me five so he's holding to five maybe as far as I got southern southern once again. You know when that drops on six or seven you can hear that come when that comes out. So next so we have this to be something not even worth talking about. So visit injuries. The walking for

Rob Kelly: 35:03

Chicago Bronco walk he's gonna roll Yeah, it's this

Rayshawn Buchanan: 35:07

should it should be. It should be asleep. Um, but once they get it DeMar DeRozan as he every weekend that he was said he was or is they should get you one at the curb. He showed.

Rob Kelly: 35:17

It's funny. It's funny you say that though? Because he wasn't the NDP candidate says he had a good two weeks man. He was

Rayshawn Buchanan: 35:25

it a good three weeks? That's not fair. He had to do a couple of months he had to do

Rob Kelly: 35:28

okay, a good couple of months. He was unbelievable. He's dropping 30 He's doing this but like listen when you are all in 17 I brought this up a couple of weeks ago. I didn't know what the record was from that on. But at one point this season, they were Oh When 16 against the top three teams in the East you cannot and will not be in an MVP discussion. If that is your team I'm sorry, cuz you can't be valuable if you can't beat the best teams you know anything like you can drop 34 All you want bro but if you lose by 20 it doesn't fucking matter you know right right exactly exactly exactly means never been there one of those hurt Caruso is hurt just came into decimated if this is full strength Chicago it's a conversation for sure. Because that's a good team man. You got ball Caruso, Levine DeRozan Vlach advantage yeah it's a good squad bro. But without Caruso your defensive glue right he's there Marcus smart without white Marcus smart I guess without talking my head I don't even know why I fucking said that.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 36:36

Cuz couldn't get this truth to that statement honestly.

Rob Kelly: 36:43

Can't deny it if they're healthy. It's a different it's a different team. But they're not sure No, but they're not with Alonzo Alonzo and Caruso are probably the two most important pieces you could lose Levine and be okay. Why it's appears after games anyways.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 36:59

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah, he definitely needs that they need to regroup next year. So it was good to get a picture with Kobe white you know, shout out to UFC he has some great moments but you know, I feel like he's kind of got buried behind ball introducer there so they may have to move on from him in the offseason but who knows maybe he gets himself some money this offseason a few bowls out during this series. But yeah, listen, Chicago, Chicago, Milwaukee. He's done a long flight and it was interesting but hour and a half away. It's like going from Boston to New York so vacation will start pretty soon and you can get the couches and the tickets to Disney World and Disneyland and you know we get those pretty quickly so it's definitely gonna be a 123 can't cover for sure. So last but not last very last but not least so you have the the Philadelphia 70 Sixers original Toronto Raptors, and I'll start first with that. I got Toronto unsex. Nice. I think that they have Lee Seok them has been hooping. Scotty Barnes is my guy, man. He's my guy. He has a problem. And if you haven't watched or seen because, you know, we're in north of the border, and you know, whatever. Yeah, that's that man is a problem. And it sounds like nurse like Nick nurse is a hell of a coach. I think that they if you get drafted Arizona when you should be ecstatic. Because they developed wings better than 90% of the teams in the NBA. So think about Seokguram think about now with Scottie borns coming in and think about crystal Shea you know Oh god no nobody right. So they know how right yeah, so yeah, they did they just know how to produce at that position. And I said very least but also I know he wouldn't have drafted but he's been awesome. You know, obviously Lowry was doing what he was there for several years. So Masai ujiri has done a masterful job with keeping that team as a contender, or even a contender I will say that but just you're doing a really good job but keeping them afloat as a playoff team that charade for president you have to get going joggers back in that deal for that for Kyle Lowry that's that's crazy you got to top 20 Pick pack for that was was wild but now he's really shown what he could do to remember you know show that we did with Joe soil I was big on personal shoe I was like go get this guy towels I robbed may get hurt so it's funny just how that kind of just keep popping up. I wasn't robbing to get hurt so I'm really happy to go rob person I'm sure we can definitely do what Rob does not as good but you know he can approximately but nevertheless you know we end up getting someone back that can do that. So you know we're good for the time being but yeah, needless to say, I think Toronto finds a way to get it under Section I think that you'll see your GM you know shows why he got his deal a few years back.

Rob Kelly: 39:48

Yeah, for sure. I think listen, I think I officially for the record. One that Raptors argument with DK because they're good fucking bat out all goes back to their good basketball team. It doesn't matter who you fuck them. You could put Kawhi in whiskey Why yes championship basketball team. Okay. You take Kawhi out. This team does the right things and I know I've said this already on this podcast but they play fundamental basketball. You said it best Nick nurse from Nick nurse is a great head coach. As long as they got nurse they got a chance because they play defense they do all the right things. At the same time. I don't see Embiid losing this series man. It was I don't like it happened and bro. I think it's Toronto. I like I think I think with the season that's He had right you look at every single beat has been through, it's just more of like I'm picking him beat over the Raptors because I just don't think he won't let it happen at this point. A MB is not going out in the first round, because he chose or not chose, he had this ref with Semmens he had all these things go down. And it's got to eventually get to the point where this is all clouded in beads legacy, this has clouded who Embiid is as a player like you're gonna start talking like, oh Jolin beads awesome. Me never gets out of the first second rep. And I think he knows this at this point. I think that's why you press for the hardened deal. I think that's why there's a lot of moving pieces that are happening with Philly, you got rivers in here. I think Philly gets out of this series, man. I think Embiid goes off. I think he scores for close to 40 points. A game is not the problem though. I know he's

Rayshawn Buchanan: 41:37

not but as always, I mean, listen, I've doubled what I have said on the shows that I've been on but I've said it to those that I have a lot of good chats with. I am a huge supporter of the young man a guy to conduct interviews Maxi I love Maxi Max he's Yeah, he is. I think he could be an all star as early as next year. I

Rob Kelly: 41:58

just think he might already be an all star. Oh, he's kind of right. We

Rayshawn Buchanan: 42:01

already passively I just like it next year. He's I think they I don't know he plays hard and it'd be bad thing he could be that third star adapture and Jay Cole aka Tobias Harris, it's not him so when he demonstrated did he dream once again and that hurts me I'm gonna target with that hurts. But he's no longer that guy. He leaves earlier this season likes to happen they go home now go to area in Germantown. Right Danny gorgeous place called Max's they got some of the best seascapes out there. You don't get onto Broad Street trade right? Head to the airport. Happy Trails that's why they should do Danny good. It's time brother. It's on. Once again. You've got three rings

Rob Kelly: 42:38

right up bro. Yeah. Three A's and a championship NCAA championship right that is that is

Rayshawn Buchanan: 42:44

Yeah, that's right baby steps. solid solid Harrodsburg what it feels like you've had a you've had a great run it's time it's time it's time to jump shots are no longer falling the way it's supposed to. So it's you know, it's all good but oh yeah, I believe that it actually will show up I believe that you know, but that's only the guy who hasn't Yeah, I really believe will show up besides and being so and remember they lose title for games three or four because it's like we're not fully back I think he is he's just not fully vaccinated. So it's just like, if that's the case that you lose or once again, we just talked about their weight is being created against Toronto. So you lose your best perimeter defender and they do it for at least to see if there's one stupid out there like what are we talking about? You don't like it it's a rack like it's a rack so Toronto says like once again I could be wrong said you should like so you can be can go for 40 or 50 once again first first guy since I'm first fill the guys hitting me says AI to win the scoring title for Jack right at first or second night and attitude 1000 When he went up and they won their first ring against Indiana so I get it it seems in that case the stars are aligning, but I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news. I believe that he's going home early once again. We'll leave it at that for our prediction so now let's get into it

Rob Kelly: 44:03

you know it's hilarious you know what's hilarious about all that I'm sorry I'm sorry we didn't mention James Harden once and that entire conversation today that is not worth it. That is the epitome of James Harden career right there is we got to talk all about a team that just traded all this together and bro he's been exactly what you thought he was gonna be spoken James Harden is exactly why I pleaded with you guys not to bring him to Boston Do you remember that? You remember that one? Really?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 44:33

He went crazy and I was like maybe this is

Rob Kelly: 44:39

this is the version this is the version of harden I was picture what is

Rayshawn Buchanan: 44:44

the reason why to bring them up to that I did completely forget about macro be honest. Like I'm not gonna lie I did I forgot about it. That's one two. He's already been a player who hit like he'd already doing for pay teens.

Rob Kelly: 44:56

I was just so he's already seasoned.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 44:59

Like you don't say that he's already it's already six it's been with

Rob Kelly: 45:04

a lot of players play off mode means like he went to the next level where James Harden It means he sucks in case that it was one day means he's not good anymore.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 45:13

Yeah it's not it's not a good show. So you know I'm glad you stopped me because I definitely got to say Oh give us give our prediction of who's going to come out of the web server otherwise out to eat I'm gonna I'm still gonna go with the defending champs. I just think that they gave just had they have they had that confidence. Now they had that pedigree now. They know what it they know when to turn it on, turn it off. And I think that the three of Giroux you know, Middleton and Jada is Hey what's up? Nope Bobby Portis be calm, bro. What? Where'd that come from? I don't know where it came from honestly I don't know the first time I pick So Phil he was talented obviously

Rob Kelly: 45:53

it could easily shoot like this. No, no greatness would happen

Rayshawn Buchanan: 45:59

and I was a Chicago fan has got to be sick because the shochet he went there in Chicago actually he was on a team that lost to Boston back in 2017 That was his rookie year like and you know it was kind of like okay he got potentially get dumped a little bit okay good. Let's go back to the basket game and then yeah he gets traded said Milwaukee and you know becomes a poor man's dirt which is really good though because Doug was obviously was

Rob Kelly: 46:24

also with all the fame talent I don't know where manage Derek is still pretty rich

Rayshawn Buchanan: 46:27

yeah you don't say yeah exactly don't like now he's he's constantly getting 1610 Which to me I think it's

Rob Kelly: 46:33

Rose and the nice mid round jumpers to he's not just like getting a 16 to 10 off rebounds to shoot like He is knocking down three point shots and knocking down the shots it's crazy to me and it's still weird to see like I'm like is he is Bobby Portis shooting at three right now

Rayshawn Buchanan: 46:51

and nail him you know what let me be let me get a little more analytical let me not be conformist. Let me not put them in that category. either. You know who he is. He became what people thought Channing Frye was going to be for those act. But it was also dope, but also know who Jennifer I was. Number eight pick at other five play the Arizona show. Jeff about the Knicks. Yes. So if you ever wanted to come on and test us on trivia, please, I want y'all to come on. It'd be awesome. Especially a basketball rodeo. He was someone that, you know, he had an extensive Phoenix in New York, you end up winning a championship in 2016 with the Cavaliers, but he wasn't his best days were behind them. I mean, he'll admit that on his show. That's what ball reports became where he was whichever Friday was supposed to be. And it's just like, Wow, it's amazing. What? Well, Coach bud has gotten out of him. Um, personally, I believe we should be starting. I don't know why but lipids camp at the start. That's just my opinion. Once again, but a lot of us have been really good for them. Don't get me wrong, you know, that. You know, I think whenever we do a show on draft classes in the future that will wait size has to look good looked at a little bit differently. So love Westberg mayo, you know, Derrick Rose, and Brook Lopez was that was at 10. They were good pets. That was a lot of people that came in the generic border was in that drive. So it's just we got to get away a little differently, in my opinion going forward. But I said another podcast on topic for another day. But yeah, I got to walk away from it. So who do we have coming up?

Rob Kelly: 48:22

First of all, it sounds like a farm podcast. I want to be a part of that whenever you put us together. Bro, I can't believe you doing this to me. breaking my heart. Rayshawn breaking my heart. You picking the box row? Picking the buck. I'm picking my boys. Listen. I got legit reasons to because this team, right? So I'm picking them and Rob Williams comes back and can be 85% of what he was during that run. Because we weren't just beating teams broke. We were beating them into the ground. We had the best defense. By far. I'm talking about the Boston Celtics. Celtics are winning it man. They're coming out of the east. The defense like we always say travel. And I just think that this team has it man. We talked about it for an hour. We're Jared. Okay, which again, you can listen to over on the 617 podcast, the team culture, the winning attitude. I'm not gonna say championship DNA. Just so Mike cannot have that influence Arsenal again. I'm not fucking saying it. But right, right. But you know, that's they've come up with it. So two years ago, I said that right. I meant it that because I thought they had it right.

Unknown: 49:43

They didn't think did.

Rob Kelly: 49:46

They clearly didn't have it that okay. They clearly didn't have but I think I saw some kind of like, fumes coming off of them or something like that. Because now man, that that culture, I'm telling you when they went out when everyone's like, man, they should have chalk fold. They should do this. They should do that. They didn't just fall broke. They came out and said emphatically. We want fucking Brooklyn. Bring them the fuck on. Because they didn't just win that game by a little bit. Take starters. No, they went full 100% and won that game by what 35 webdate Actually dominated that game. They said we want Brooklyn with a fucking vengeance. And to me that's just such a culture shift man that just tells you that like they don't give a fuck. They want this and I don't know. I I just feel it man. I feel it. I feel that championship DNA running through my veins. I'm just so amped up for playoff basketball. Brah

Rayshawn Buchanan: 50:49

these big old heavy Vikings I think

Rob Kelly: 50:51

I think it's spaghetti. Bro. I'm telling you I'm telling you I think it's Celtic suns Celtic suns in the finals I just I

Rayshawn Buchanan: 51:01

listened I didn't listen I listen I have green polo shirts on can see if I'm not standing up but

Rob Kelly: 51:07

just yeah, I'm sorry I just got let's call

Rayshawn Buchanan: 51:09

it Oh, listen, listen, I want you to write I do but I'm just like how you said that I forget what she says I get enough. Oh, you should in my head without going to talk about that. My wife is I get talked about enough. And I think it's because they kind of cruised into this policy thing. But we've seen where those three wanted want to turn it on especially metal turned into milk. That to me is the is the here's the barometer of where he's on. And once again as sophisticated we see nationally like he'd started to say MJ against I guess Boston so

Rob Kelly: 51:44

if middle scores more than 30 if Middleton scores more than 30 You don't have a chance against them right? Honestly 2020 Okay,

Rayshawn Buchanan: 51:52

and I had to do them okay, my youngest, they'll get 30 You gotta Johnson's gonna get 30 versus 20 to 25 but that you can get you 20 to 25 as well so anyway now because you get that drawn someone's attention it's like oh, by the court this is opening Oh, pack curtain is open. Oh, brace the eyelids open so it's just like I think their bench is not as good as it was in years past you know, so I think that's just that's just what it was but you know, you know what we'll see but I gotta walk you got Boston but let's just do kind of like rapid fire during the season award. So you know, go through MVP coach of the year we're good here whereas you put a year and then six months so for me MVP I had Nicola Yogesh like what do you get 2000 points 1000 rebounds fibers to fires and it says 2714 and eight I did not give him the award at the having a better season than he did last year like that to me is unfathomable once again I am a yoke is die people like he goes into the show you if you've heard me speak about yours before he checks every box all of them every every box like analytically not handedly like the man is just he's on another level. So a guy got him for MVP Coach of the Year. Taylor Jenkins methods 30 Gnosis right, because maybe they I don't know I think

Rob Kelly: 53:12

it did but keep going. Keep going. Yeah.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 53:14

Yeah, so I had Tiller Jake and so once again I know we talked about how yields everyone to get votes who's out buddy until J gets to me if you didn't win it you should have wanted whatever in my opinion. He has been awesome offseason rookie of the year this is hard everything is really not Scotty Barnes ever just highlight it bro he's gotta get ready bar should be the bobby people people shouldn't people want to go Cade every Mobley I get it but I'm gonna tell you Barnes are the first player of the year is Marcus smart. If it wasn't him, it should have been timely but we'll get to that. And then six man. I mean, this guy would tell her like be like this. Your drill. The person has been his greatest ally here on the bench this year either he deserves him walking away like this dish but north of telehealth is this is one of the things

Rob Kelly: 53:59

I hear you I hear you law. I'll get that in a second NDP. It is it comes down to yoke edge. It comes down to a bead you know what's great, though, you know who's in that conversation? Now? You know who's entered the MVP chat? Our man Jason Tatum. He's gonna get some votes. That is 100% of fact Jason Tatum is gonna get they're gonna say he came on to like do I don't I know he's gonna get votes. And that makes me happy inside and Luca. And Yanis. I'm gonna go Yiannis bro, because I that wrote that last week. I texted you about this. He two games in a row. I think he put himself at the top spot. In my opinion. She had the best block I've seen almost all year to win a game. And then this motherfucker comes out like he is James Harden and Steph Curry had to step back the rate to win a game the next row it there's nothing more MVP about a senator who's seven foot two, hitting a step back three to win a game to game after rejecting Joe and beat his other MVP candidate. I don't know what it is. I go down as I go you on this MVP. What do we have next?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 55:17

Piece of coach Coach of the Year coach of

Rob Kelly: 55:18

the year. So they did already announced that it was Monty Williams from Phoenix.

Unknown: 55:23

Okay, okay. Okay.

Rob Kelly: 55:25

I support it. Yeah.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 55:27

Yeah, you know, it's what they picked. You know, the bully greed from Republicans. Like that had been a joke, but Oh,

Rob Kelly: 55:34

you got my vote. She got more votes than me. I'm not gonna be as well blasphemous, last, blasphemous. Six Man of the Year I'm gonna I'm gonna go with you tomorrow you know I mean there's no doubt about that he no one makes a bigger impact off the bench that he does is not even close not not even close. He should be starting it's one of those where like he comes in two minutes into the game and lastly I don't even know where to go. Are you ever good to get into rookie I'll bro Yeah, no, we just talked about Scotty Barnes. Scotty buyer so you got it. I didn't know I didn't. Okay. Scotty Barnes is as the Rookie of the Year glisten. Cades awesome. He was awesome this year but Scotty Barnes makes an impact on a winning team. You know what I mean? And I'm sure I know that can't be brought into account with rookie of the year but

Rayshawn Buchanan: 56:22

he's hanging out next year though. I we were talking we talked about yeah look I'm gonna show you because when Bagley has been awesome they're there a guy some guys over there there's gonna be there'll be okay

Rob Kelly: 56:37

yeah so so the Detroit EC against the South is the Detroit you see against honestly it's it gets all the best teams in the NBA right they faced one of the better teams in the NBA they look good though Celtics games right they didn't Celtics didn't look back Detroit look good. You know what I mean? It was one of those were Detroit Cade played great to deep Bay played great. They got some guys so I agree with you that yeah, that's all I got, man. That's all that's it. I just want to say Celtics you go to the fucking finals. Listen to Sam seven podcast and I'll tell you

Rayshawn Buchanan: 57:08

what. Right and hey, you're hurt. You're hurt here for so that's for PK about Kelly. I'm always been great. This is another episode. This is the point. We'll see you next time. Peace. Let's go. All right. Hey,

Rob Kelly: 57:26

Capricorn. How do I stop