Patriots' Painful Reality Check After Cowboys Debacle

Rayshawn Buchanan: 0:06

Hello and welcome to the next edition of Missing the Point. I am Pauli Gervais. I'm the kid with my guy Money. Mike Marganjolo, I wish we were talking to you under better circumstances, but you know that is the story of 2023, new England Patriots. They just will not give us something to be positive about. So, my brother, how are you doing tonight?

Michael Marcangelo: 0:27

You know I'm doing well right. I feel like this is something that I once said that I've been hoping for. But we've been expecting. You know, like two weeks ago we talked about on this very show where the close games or the comeback tonight, the second half, was that making us feel a certain way about this team. That just wasn't real. And boy did we get our fucking answer. I mean, bobby, this is for you. The Cowboys fucking teabagged us on Sunday and we just took it. Just took it, yeah.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 1:05

I mean, that's the name of the episode. Cowboys teabagged it and always been like that. That literally should be this act line. We don't need an AI tag line. Just Cowboys teabagged the Patriots. That's exactly what happened. Yeah, 38 to three. You know this is this was one of the most lopsided victories, or losses, I should say, and it really has accounted. This made me think about the 31 to nothing debacle years ago. I want to say it was week one against the bills, where you know my spirit animal, sam Adams, was, was out here getting getting picked sixes. I was like yo, what is going on? Oh, that brought me back to that game. It was a way, way, way, way different outcome at the end of that year. We did, we did show them we had the same outcome that we had the year that we lost the Buffalo 31, nothing. So let's just get right into it. I'm already depressed. I was not been depressed as I talked to you earlier about putting the show together. You know the fact that Mike told me you know you're leading this conversation tonight I'm like, I don't want to lose shit. I'm like, but you know what, we're better leaders than what we saw on the field. So let's just get right into it. So, like 30 to three, they get smacked. Let's just go right in. Mac Jones, we won't get to build. We're going to get to other other players on the team, but let's just get it back in Jones right now. He was like I think 15, like 29, something like that, like 150, 12, 12 or something, but like one was 50, one, one touchdown or like two picks.

Michael Marcangelo: 2:41

So just he didn't throw a test. He didn't throw a test there. Oh, he did Well, he did Well, he did, just not to the point.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 2:48

So, yeah, he did so. He was the best player on the field for the Dallas Cowboys. So, correct, um, he played. He played phenomenal for Dallas. Um, really, just an audition. You know, forget about trade lens. Matt Jones is saying, hey, I want to be a Dallas Cowboy. Let me show you why I can make the team better by just throwing it to your guys. Like he looked, like he was on the practice point on Sunday. So you know, responsible for 14 points for Dallas. So you know, listen to your guys. So what is that the worst performance of his career? Um, and you know, should that be the last that we see him, um, as the full time starter?

Michael Marcangelo: 3:27

Okay. So, yes, it was the worst performance of his career, I think, um, when you, I was digging like a little deep wrench into some of the uh, like the story lines and the stats, uh, it's his worst quarterback percentage, right, I think he was. I think he was a 33.9. So worse for his career. It's the fourth time in his career that he's uh, that he's counterfeit three turnovers. The second that he's thrown the picks uh, the fourth he's throwing a pick six, yes, it was, but this was the worst. Um, and I think what made it feel like the worst, you know, to me watching it, is he just gave up. He gave up on on the team, he gave up on the game, he, all the things that we have been praising and I feel like on this particular show, I've been the biggest Mac apologist over the last, at least the last uh, four weeks, right, this season, right, and he was talking about how, no matter what this year, he's been staying in the pocket, he's been taking the hits. He wasn't like he wasn't afraid of it, but in this game it he, he was throwing off of his back foot when he didn't need to do that. He was seeing pressure that wasn't there and, like, the most unforgivable thing that he did uh was when he ran, like when he uh rolled to his right and then passed all the way across the field back to the left. The first time I mean we got lucky. I think it was Kendrick born that caught it and I think it was Greg Olson on the call. He said, yeah, you can't do that Like you, you got lucky with that one. So what did the motherfucker do? He did it again. Yeah, and and and. He paid and it cost him, like that. That was a pick six, it was easy, it was telegraphed. Um. The most damning part about this for me is that we've, we've, all you know, all of us have said you know, mac Jones, based on what we've seen, isn't good enough to to win you a game, but he won't be the reason you lose. He was the reason we lost that game the way that we did. Now I think we probably, if you, if you take away those, those 14 points, I mean the score of that game is still what is it's, it's it's 24.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 5:30

24, 23. Yeah.

Michael Marcangelo: 5:32

We don't know what, what could have happened with the momentum, but I would. I would say, like you can look if we're just talking about the players in the field, that we're not getting to Belichick yet you can look specifically at the way in which uh, you know you can Mac carelessly threw around the ball and say that he lost us that game. The most end and what was even more damning maybe it's a coping mechanism for him, but I don't really give a shit is when he was benched. He's laughing with Bailey's Effie Like that was bad B, a f**king D bad, but no, it's. It shouldn't be the last time we see him as a full time started.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 6:09

What? Why not? How can you, how can you say all that and still say that he still should be the?

Michael Marcangelo: 6:15

starter, because I believe that, uh, he has earned the right, based on what he was put through last year, to at least come back and see if he has an answer game. Because, yeah, we've. We've now seen him at his absolute worst. We have. I get it. If he gives up on the team again against against the Saints, then yeah, he should be done. But listen, if we're not giving up on the coach and by we I mean the New England Patriots organization they can't give up on him. They can't because this is his again, his third year, but a second year with the full offense he's. And again, you and I in our prediction show or sorry. When we talked to Karen Griggin before the season started, you and I both had them at own four. They're one in three, they're one in three. So they're better than what we thought.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 7:03

Oh, I mean. I mean you're the f**king Doug bones. Maybe you have me in, damn, but it wasn't good, it's not and I'm sad. This before and I'll say this again, it's relevant to this conversation. It's not about if you lose, it's not about that because you're going to lose games. It's how it f**king happens Like this. This is below rock bottom. This, this is. This is Titanic level type of s**t that we saw, saw yesterday, and what's he? You know we're getting into our predictions about what we envision against the same send, you know, the Raiders in the coming weeks, but it's a I'm, I'm, I'm sorry, man, I've seen enough. And, ironically, right, we talked about, or you mentioned, how crazy it was. Last thing, yes, we all know, you know we all stepped through that season and then you know it mentioned how bad it looked and you know, could it get any worse than this? And it has. Ironically, statistically, his two best games have been last season the Minnesota game, all things given, and then the Baltimore game that we played last year Under Matt Procrestia. Ironically, his best success is under Matt Procrestia. That's, that's f**king insane, and so that tells you everything that we need to know. Like, and once again, for him to get Bill O'Brien back into the fold. And once again, I know that we put some of the stock in it. We were just, we were pleading, begging, praying, whatever words you want to use. We were just hoping that Bill O'Brien was going to be the answer. And once again, you said it last week. I said it last week there's been times when the office has looked functional. It has right, meaning just from a, just from a play call, not necessarily an exit, it's just their point, but from a play call standpoint it looked functional. And last last, yesterday evening, whatever function was there, it was gone. It was gone. It was gone. And to me, I don't know if there's an answer game, because there is no one on the show that's clamored for a sinister moment more than me I've been. Maybe yesterday was a sinister game. Maybe it was a sinister game saying, hey, I'm not the fucking guy, get somebody else to do it, because I'm not the guy. And once again, that's okay, get them off my fucking team, get them off my team, I'm done Like, I have nothing else, there's nothing else to watch Like, unless you're telling me you're going to get fucking Justin Jefferson and stuff on Diggs on the outside and he still does nothing, then it's like you know, whatever, but I'm like you're not getting into any of those guys that come here in New England.

Michael Marcangelo: 9:50

Yeah, but that argument that you just made right then and there makes me believe that you don't actually think he's the real problem. He just thought he's a solution. He thought it was a solution, sure, but he's not the overall problem. Because you just said, and let's say, they're going to get step on digs or Justin Jefferson which, by the way, pipe dreams but if they get someone to not count on the outside, you do think, because of what you've seen in college, that he could be a guy that could win you some games.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 10:19

I mean he would have to be at some guys. You see that everything has to go. Ok, I'll make him more playing. We're seeing it happen in Miami right now. Right, I'm not sure Two of us will look just how Mack is looking if he had.

Michael Marcangelo: 10:35

He did. He did under Brian Flores. He did.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 10:39

You know what I'm saying. So I just feel like that's what it is, like you have to give the young guys weapons. Now what I will say born Juju, mike Giusecchi, like this, is like. I mean, I know they're not the sexiest names, but there's some quarterbacks. I feel like that would actually do damage. With that, with that court, I feel like Matt Stafford would do well, I feel like someone like a I even feel like someone else would look at you.

Michael Marcangelo: 11:08

I mean, just remember Stafford had Calvin Johnson and Golden Tate didn't win a damn thing.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 11:15

No, but I'm saying but the office still looks good is what I'm saying. If you could have matched Stafford with the guys that's here and how Bill could coach at times, it would look different. That's something, Because you'd have someone that can actually get the ball down the field. Is what I mean, Right.

Michael Marcangelo: 11:34

But to your point though, right. I think the overarching point is there are certain people quarterbacks that could do something with the skill set positions that the Patriots have, but not in their third year and not after a second year. That was the way in which it was last year, I agree. In 2019, tom Brady would have devoured defenses with these same weapons. Yeah, this guy ain't that.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 12:02

He ain't that no right, and I think that goes back to a lot of us and shout out to my boy, ricky, for saying this earlier, so I'll give him credit for this point. It just goes to show the way I'm angry to read that. A lot of pictures, twitter and Angry Excuse me. We're still not over what happened in 2020, meaning we're Tom going and leaving to Tampa Bay. It didn't have to end that way and I will continue to hold that stance. So the towels come along. I just can't get past that sometimes, but game was like yesterday, heightened that stance and it heightens my sensitivity when it comes to watching this fucking team and it's just like that can't happen. Once again, that just came off. A terrible loss and there was any time to catch him. It was now. And there was any time to catch him on the back here, sort of speak. It was now, and he was lost by 35. Not 31, 24. Not 24, 20. Ok, once again, I would have been annoyed. Well, I'm the winner. 35 points, no, fuck you away, man. No way, no way. And I know.

Michael Marcangelo: 13:22

This is who they are, though, bro. We talked about this. The final score of the Dolphins game out of the Eagles game wasn't real, because they were already up by 16 or 17 points in the first quarter. That they let their fucking foot off the gas and Mack didn't throw a pick six or have a fumble recovered for a touchdown. If those two things happened in those games, it would have been very similar to the score. Those are the two teams let the foot up the gas, let us back in it. And it gave us the thing that we were talking about a couple of weeks ago, that fall sense of security, thinking like, oh, we're like right there, we're right there. No, we are fucking not. We cannot beat good teams in this league, and I just want you to know, we'll talk more about this game where we're ever in talk. We'll talk about the upcoming games, and in two weeks, when we're three and three don't talk like nobody can talk about. Oh well, bill's figured it out. No, he hasn't. We can still beat bad teams. We will still beat bad teams in bad quarterbacks, promise you. I promise that. Which?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 14:22

is the seven wins. So I'm here to tell you that's the worst case scenario.

Michael Marcangelo: 14:28

Yes, what's going to happen? It's going to validate his whole shit.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 14:32

That's the worst For where they need to go going forward, and this when we do this on a couple of weeks. If they're at three or three, with a chest of four and three, that's the worst case scenario. You know what I mean.

Michael Marcangelo: 14:46

And once again for those that know me.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 14:50

no, you will never hear me really talk about taking. Right, I don't talk about what's selfish. I mean, I don't think much about the brothers, but I wouldn't want them to take. I don't want anything in that roof while I do not want to take. I'm telling you right now, I've never been closer to saying give me a full on tank seasons than I am right now. I really wanted it 2020. But I just think that his ego, meeting Bill, his ego, wouldn't let him punch that season. They still fucking punting it. This season was over after game two against Seattle that year, which is super understanding, but everything just went downhill after that. But I don't know, I really hope that you're wrong. I don't know. I don't know. We'll get his bill in our body. I wonder if five is the best case scenario.

Michael Marcangelo: 15:45

But you're operating under the assumption that they go one in five, that they're going to clean house. Kraft is not going to fire Bill as the coach. If he does fire him as a GM, great, then yes.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 15:56

But that's enough for me. That's enough for me. I'm OK with it. Sorry, let me make this, but I know we've been super emotional this whole show so far. I've been emotional about Bill in the past over the last two years. If they kept him on as the coach, fine, whatever. I mean, it is what it is. But him shopping for groceries, as his former mentor, bill Parcellus will say, the groceries are spoiled, it's past due, it's done, it's over. Like the groceries literally have spoiled. They're spoiled right, and it's time for him for that part to hang in at once again. And we'll talk about this later on on another show, later on this week. Stay tuned for that. We got a GM at 100 Cosley Street that's going balls, balls to the wall and saying, no, our time is right now. Fuck, what it was, we're going all in. And so now we're like, well, damn, we're seeing that happen. And we're seeing you pick and choose when to pick these two players and only want to cater to the defense and even that is not even fucking working. Completely Like fans of the fed up. And it should be Once again. You're not going to win a silverball every year. Yes, that's the goal. Yes, the goal. We want to say, yes, I get that. Just want to watch the play of the football. And, like you said, the first two was the fool's goal. They got really unlucky when it gets to Jets, because we saw where they fucking get last night. They hadn't even already lost they. Oh, I'm sorry. Everything's coming back to me once. The milk hunter boy, right, I think that's trademark.

Michael Marcangelo: 17:43

It's the Mormon milk hunter.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 17:46

Just so damn Like he played Mac in the homes yesterday.

Michael Marcangelo: 17:51

Well, it's because he has talent. Like he has arm strength, he can make up for a play breaking down and rolling out Like that's actually designed better for him. If he rolls out, he can find something downfield. Mac can't do that. You said something a couple of minutes ago about how bad it is, how much it pains you to see what the Patriots have done since 2020 because they let Brady walk out the door Right. What heightens it for me isn't, you know, I think, brady going away and winning a Super Bowl that next year. That's like whatever. That's just Brady, he's just going to do that. But the two things that really that really pissed me off the most. Look how. Look look at the Bucks and their first year with that Brady right now. And look at the seamless transition of quarterbacks in Green Bay. Like you didn't have that here. We put so much faith in Bill that he would have that right Now if Jimmy G had come out five years later instead of in 2013 or 2014,. Yeah, maybe because he hit on him. He was right about him. He can't say healthy, but he was right about him. But I mean what we've seen is that, if you without again, I hate to make this like the Brady show, but like this is just so glaring. Is that, if you have Bill and you even had Josh with the angles, and even at that time you have? Was it Flores on defense in 2020? Or is that no Flores, ronnie in Miami, all right? So whoever was on defense, you still need to spend a quarter of a billion dollars to get blown out by the Buffalo Bills in the divisional round? Yep, that's it. That's where we are, and like we're putting a lot of blame on Mac for this game, as we should. This game was a foundational shaker of a game. It makes you question everything. Nothing is off the table, so that means that we have to hold Robert Kraft accountable too. Yeah, because, yeah, bill, listen, bill's a terrible GM. I do think he's a pretty good drafter. As of late, though, I think his draft since 2019 has been pretty good. Not a. He won't draft offensive talent which, by the way, he should and let's sit to running back like the fourth or fifth round. He'll hit on those people, right, but when Robert gave Bill money, he spent it. So why hasn't he spent the last two years? My assumption is Robert hasn't been giving him money, right? He's a pay for the fucking scoreboard and the lighthouse and all that shit. And I think, fans, now he's running, he's burning through a lot of that equity that he had with us because he didn't take a dollar of our money to build that stadium and we all praised him for so long and he was able to cover up his unwillingness to spend money because he had the greatest coach and the greatest quarterback playing together so they could cover up all of their financial inefficiencies. But listen, bill's 71, right, yeah, yep, brady's gone. Robert has to spend money or this is not going to go the way that we want it to go.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 21:07

But my thing is, where's the reluctancy at? On Crass? Perhaps? Because once again, the rhetoric that he's spewing is that he's spewing that, you know. Oh, we want a contending team. You know, I believe in the coaching staff, I believe in this. So he's saying all the John Henry type things but it's not resulting in win. 12 was always the ultimate referenda because team most players was like yo, I want to play with that guy. Because if I play with that guy, I mean I get paid here but I get paid elsewhere. Right, that that that's just. That's just what it was, um, but you know what's? Again, winning makes it fun you're not gonna play for. Bill and lose this is looking like Cleveland 2.0 yep. so for those that you know are, you know, newer, once again. You know Mike and I run the same maze, but you know we follow stuff from from years past. This looks like Cleveland Bill um with a young, a young test of Verdi. Um, you know, they made it play out was one time and it's four years, ten, you're there, you actually. They beat us and it played off, uh, and I think in 94, I think that's the year. So I'm thinking so, um, and that's essentially was it, you know, um. So I just looked like that and once again, people forget. You know they were 5 and 11. First year is first year there. Um, once again, and I joked about it a few weeks ago, um, you know it was. It's not funny, but it is what it is. But I was like, are we gonna have a mole with soup? I know, moment, you know obviously we didn't, you know, because they get knocked out of the game. But I mean, damn what I did, what I saw yesterday. I'm just like to get a mole. It wasn't moment. He just needs to be. He just needs to grab a clipboard and say what do you like? You want to run sticks, you want to run out route. What, what do you? What do you like here? Because when I see it on the field, I just I just can't do it. But, but no, but back to craft though. But yeah, he, he, he spent the rhetoric that um, he thinks people want to hear, as I put that in here quotes, um, but the results aren't there. And once again, all we asked is for a competitive team, robert, not. Once again, you're not, you're not going to the silver of a year. It was again. We were spoiled because we, once again, we were in the decade. Last decade, we went to eight straights, eights, these title games, eight straight, like that, that's fucking unheard of. Well, and in a modern era, to go eight straight, and you know you, you win, you win three of those, what like that's? like yeah like and I get it, if that's hard it is ever to keep up, because people always leave and coaches leave and players leave. I get that, but well, I think they actually didn't. They was five of them. Five, I'm sorry. Yeah five, yeah my bad. Yeah five, yeah, so yeah, so yeah so I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Michael Marcangelo: 24:06

Yeah, so fine, so come on but the point is is I mean we, we, we hold Mac Jones account of. I think some of us hold them uh too accountable for things that you know. We just shouldn't expect that of a third year and and for me, the reason why I say that is you can't fence a guy that has been that literally the only thing he's had to compete for in the last four years was his starting job at Alabama and then, once he got that job at Alabama, he had the best of the best college football talent in the world on his team right, and he made things look easy, as he should have. You you can't replace Taylor Waddle, devonta Smith and, uh, who the hell was running back? Who was his running back? uh, I figured a running back, but he had met you on that too, that's right you can't you can't replace those three with juju Smith, schuster, devonte Parker and, uh, and Kendrick Bourne, and thank you, it's going to look exactly the same, because in a we've seen it. We've seen it over and over again. So, rubber craft, hopefully we have the chance to talk to you at some point in time in our illustrious podcasting career. I'm going to bet, though, after the, after we say this, we probably won't, for all the money that bill and tom saved you for your the the last 20 years, spend the fuck out of it now. You owe us. You owe us this because you're you're, you don't want to listen, you do not want you let's see them in that, in that bright little of that bright big scoreboard, in that nice new life house to be empty, just like Fenway Parkus. Don't turn in to the Boston Red Sox, because Boston sports fans will turn on you because, as Ray mentioned, there's still one GM in this town. That's.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 26:00

That's all about spending, and winning and once again he comes over as the most conservative of all four, and that's the wild part. But we've seen that since his became so horses became GM, he is ball through the wall and there's no attachment there. Um, was that that he left the bill don't get out to the players? So that that's what I'm saying. He learned from you, he learned from you. For some reason, the man has lost his mind, he's lost his touch and I'm like yo, you gotta find it, because once again, I think he can still come up with a great game plan. Once again. When you hold Tyree Keltz or 40 yards, like you, you still got. There's still something up there, coaching wise that he can put his mad sciences. We are, put his, put his tape on and go to work. That's still there. However, when it comes to finding much of the offensive talent, for the most part it's just not there, um. But, like I said, we can go on another hour about this, about I'll. I'll lead up there, um, it looks like there's nothing positive coming out of this, so I'm just letting you know. I know that for those that's listening says you're like what, are you gonna say something positive? You're not gonna hear something positive. So I'm gonna tell you that right now. Um, because this next thing is a positive either. So, matthew Jude on, you know, mr, mr, mr Reds leaves. Um, apparently now could possibly Mr Reds of the season would have biceps here. So I'll ask I know we just talked about it, but I'll ask is this a sign when you lose? You lose your best offensive player. Is this a sign to say, hey, wrap it up, it's not going where we think it's gonna go?

Michael Marcangelo: 27:43

Bill will never can see the season. It's just you can. You know it. It's, it's just not gonna happen. So I think you know we've seen Bill again, different time, different quarterback. We've seen Bill go to the Super Bowl with Julian Evelman at corner. We've seen him go to the AFC title game with with Troy Brown playing slot corner. He'll figure it out there. He always has been able to figure that out, so he's not gonna can see. Um, I think the fact that you know you have people like Ted Johnson, who actually tore both of his both of the tendons off of his bicep, uh, when he was playing for us said that this injury would be a 10 week, uh, uh, you know, 10 week stent on the IR and the fact that Jude on is seeking a second opinion means that he probably didn't like what you heard the first time. So he's gonna try and figure out to get his way back here sooner. I think for a guy who has notoriously been a fast starter, at least with his time here in New England like this is obviously it's gonna fucking hurt. It's going to hurt. I. I actually believe that the potential loss of Christian Gonzalez for an extended period of time will hurt worse. Because if you, if you listen, in this day and age, especially with the way that the Patriots blitz I mean their, their blitz, their blitzes aren't, aren't so exotic that Jude on is getting to the quarterback every single time and look, you do that then you need to cover. And now, if you can't get to the quarterback and you can't cover, you're gonna be fucked like we. This is why I'm sorry to go back to some still so mad at Bill and when you say, like his, he can still put together a good coaching plan. Yes, I agree, he just didn't this past week. Because when I go, when Christian went out, everybody knew you, me, our moms, our grandmothers, every, all that the next thing that Dallas is going to do was go at, was go to CD land and attack whoever's covering him. That's what Bill would have done. That's what Bill would still do no and he and he leaves. Well, it was one-on-one coverage with the, with the backup, no help miles right?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 29:52

miles right.

Michael Marcangelo: 29:54

CD land. There was the regular season equivalent of Ellis Hobbs on Plexigar fucking.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 30:00

Burris, literally, because the same fucking number to the same number, right, same number. Um, yeah, the Danny Jones, the Jones, back the knee, jack Jones back. Um, I do the Jack Jones to be the one right now if, um, you know he's back being helped. It was here a little bit of it last year so he, I think he could be that that guy, cuz he was for a little bit of times, um, you know, last last season. But yeah, I, I don't, I don't, I don't know. Um, yeah, I was gonna bring up the gun, though, and during as well, um, you know, hopefully it's just maybe like a two or three week thing where they can just um, you know, probably back in the place, because I think it was a dislocated um shoulder. But yeah, I, just to me, I don't know. Like between that, you know, you don't, you don't look to add anything to the office of line. You know the stranger's been out. Um, you won't do anything or right tackle, um, you give, you give a bump up and and pay to to shrimp brown. Um, you know, you know to help, you know to help him play better, um, but it just, I just at this point doesn't matter. But I want to go back to Jude on, because, um, we, we know how Bill operates, that we've seen him do this for players before and you probably know where I'm going when I say this. So, with him being gone from, essentially you know, nine to seven weeks, if not longer, um, they gave him a step forward. Go more, you know. Pay raise, um, is it possible? This is the last season we see a drew on there.

Michael Marcangelo: 31:26

If he's not coming back, I mean, yeah, because he ain't gonna get another raise next year, right so? And Bill may try to take away money from him next year because he was injured this year, right? So I think you're probably gonna see Jude on towards the end of the year and I mean I hope, I truly hope, and if we do that you're probably gonna see, uh, if we're still in it, if it makes sense to even play him, he's gonna look better than he has in the past couple of seasons because he won't be so tired. But if, if this is the end of that of his season, that I would agree with you that this probably that was probably the last time we see him in the Patriots uniform and that that's honestly, that's fucking sad and that's the case.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 32:09

It's sad. Um, now, but what? What? What it does do? It allows Uche, to you know, to step up. It allows you know, white, to step up and, honestly, play, play the kids. At this moment, once again, I don't have vision. We're gonna have to they're gonna have to right, you're gonna have to, but my thing is that that's where I'm at with it, like no, you're, there's nothing positive that's about to happen in the coming weeks. Um, I don't agree with your premise. I don't agree with because you're not the only one that said what you just said earlier about the whole three and three. I don't, I don't, I'm not buying. I said we're getting to it shortly, but I'm not buying, like I just, I don't, I don't see, I don't, I don't see a path to where that happens. Once again, that that means you're saying that Matt Jones finally has a serious game. You're saying that the defense all of a sudden starts making even more players than they made. Um, once again, if, if you're relying on Sean Wade and Miles Bryant, if you gave, if you gave you and me six seconds, and you know that that'd be a long time in the felt, but if you gave us six seconds, in the NFL we find some receivers open on Miles Bryant and Sean Wade. Yeah, those guys, those special teamers, at this fucking moment, they're gunners. Not, not, not cover corners, you know, I just that that to me, is is, is, is common, is common, personified. So, um, it's going to be a joke come Sunday and I say, no, I, I, I expect to laugh my ass off in a cynical way. Yeah, I, just I don't expect much else. You know from them. So, um, but it's just like you know. So I want to go back to the coaching for a second. So, obviously, um, you know it's a one-thru start for the third straight year in a row. Obviously, the only year they turned around was 2021 was going, you know, 10 to 7. You know I don't see a seven game. What is what's happening? So I'm not gonna entertain that. Um, but you know, obviously, you know we killed one coach with the secular last year. Uh, in that position. But you know, do, do we owe that man an?

Michael Marcangelo: 34:19

apology for what I know. No, no, I mean that that I've heard that today too, like that is something that I've seen on on Twitter, I've heard on the airwaves. No, no, because I can tell you that what, what has happened to this offense since max rookie year. Last year was an abomination of everything, of everything. Our schedule was exponentially easier and we were averaging what Was it? 20 points a game. It wasn't quite the 17 points that Denver was averaging, but it was pretty fucking bad. But we could run the ball. We could run the ball. The difference there is the offensive line was better last year than this. This year we actually had better people on the offensive line. So the one thing that we could do last year we can no longer do, because Bill didn't do the right thing and actually either draft correctly on the offensive line or paid big dollars for offensive linemen and everyone looks at well, the line's not doing that back because Max only been sacked like five times all year. Again, ramon J Stevenson did not forget how to fucking run.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 35:30

Yep.

Michael Marcangelo: 35:31

That is a direction to the offensive. So no, we don't owe Matt Patricia an apology. That is utter bullshit.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 35:43

And it had to be asked. I didn't even thought about it, I said wow. I said what's it, like I said earlier in the show, for Matt Jones to statistically have his best numbers under Matt Patricia is that the IRBs is crazy, not true? 382. I'm saying that's why it's true 32 in the soda.

Michael Marcangelo: 36:03

No no, no, a couple of games just, but in the season total no, it's not true, not even close.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 36:08

No, I'm saying I'm talking about individual games, I'm not talking about season one. We know his rookie season was his best year. We know that. But this is a good way to do his rookie year. I mean, I know we talked about Matt Matt, matt Matt, all those things that came out early on his own pace for 4,600 yards, 34 touchdowns, 17 pegs and empty fucking calories, empty calories, don't fuck about that. I've read you 3,500, 21 touchdowns, 11 picks and we be 11 to 6. I'm totally fine with that. I don't give a fuck about you getting almost $5,000. That means absolutely nothing to me. And wasn't the apologists around in full effect saying, oh, that's wrong. And you guys don't, you don't know football and all the other bullshit? Well, I don't know what people considered defend him after yesterday. To me, I just I don't see where you can defend him going forward. I just, to me, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm personally done, though Like so I don't care what else.

Michael Marcangelo: 37:18

I gather, I don't.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 37:19

I don't care how he looks. Once again, if him playing better helps us win, ok, great. But my, my, my personal investment, my desire to see him do well, went out the window yesterday.

Michael Marcangelo: 37:32

So let me ask you a question Do you so if he on Sunday against the Saints goes 25 of 30 for 284, four touchdowns, no picks, and we win the game, you would not say like, all right, like, and, at a time when every, everyone was against him and everyone stopped believing in him, and he still did that With those same people on on offense, you wouldn't. You wouldn't say, well, that shows, that shows something.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 37:57

So if that I mean, obviously the scenarios change obviously. But if that was, no, no, no, I'm no, I'm saying. I'm saying I mean like I'm like, I've been, I've been streaming about Sinnerch at moment. That's what I mean, that's what I'm getting at. I'm saying like it depends on how it looked in the game, how we got to that, um, but it's just like I've been waiting for Sinnerch to game, so that's something where he throws for, you know, almost 300, gets four touchdowns, no picks. Yeah, I'd be happy, but I haven't been, haven't been streaming for a game, yeah.

Michael Marcangelo: 38:25

But if it followed this below rock bottom, as you mentioned, if he came out after, because this kid has never had to over, if he had, if he's had to do it in the pros, he hasn't done it, but he's really never overcome adversity before. No, but if he does it now, and because it it will probably never hopefully hope to fucking God it will never get as bad as it was on Sunday against the Cowboys. If, if, if, if he turns, we still got kids sitting on the stretcher brother.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 38:55

So hold your horses.

Michael Marcangelo: 38:58

But if he goes from that low and has what, what you know what, To your point, though, fuck the stats. Let's say he goes 15 of 35, but seven of his 15 completions are on the final drive to win the game. So this isn't changing for you.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 39:14

Once again you're speaking to my signature moment that he has a game, but that's all I want, and that's all I wanted, like the fact that, okay, once again I don't. I don't think that he's the worst I've ever seen. So I want to be clear about that, even though I'm down there. Sorry, never was that, obviously. I just want to send a short moment. Every other young quarterback in this league had a certain moment, but him. Once again, the games that he would have had are forced to stay lost the Dallas game early on this year, minnesota, whatever, you know I. So we want to see even the um. Oh God, what's the point of this? No, no, no, no, no, yeah, ten of a big game, and in that was game. So there was four or five games, was it okay? I remember this moment. I remember that Um cause, once again, if they all and I and I didn't see too much of the Sunday cause they were, they were playing from behind. But I'm like I, we, we will see more of what he could be or should be if they mainly run no huddle I keep saying this and they run no huddle. He looks different because he can outthink most people. That's one thing I'll give him credit for that. He can outthink most people. So if he, if he's doing that, he looks a lot better. Because you don't, you don't, you know, you're not given a defense time to set up, and that's the case. That's where he picks you apart, like you're playing operation, that's where he's good. But because they're always playing from fucking behind and they never have a lead, we can't see that thing. So I don't know, that doesn't matter anything. But once again, I just want to send a short moment. I said that's really where I'm at. So yeah, of course, of course, if it was 25 or 30, you know, for you know, 300 yards, four sets, that'd be great. Or, like you said, to go 15 to 30 or whatever on 35, as you mentioned. But I think those seven to eight on a final drive, but get the game, win a score, whether it be a field goal or a touchdown, that would be great, like that, that would be great. But then, once again, it showed, ok, some type of resolve. But do I think that's going to happen? No, because there's been no inclination to show that's actually going to happen. Once again, it'd be great to be proven wrong. Once again, I want to say, to be successful. But if faith is what you know, I'm looking at, you know we're not talking about faith Right now. I don't have no faith. I have no faith and hope. I have no belief in this man and it's going to deliver when it matters. It matters and that's really. That's really a sad place to be in as a, as a Patriot fan. So you know it is what it is, but hopefully, once again, I'm proven wrong at some point, but I just don't see that happening. But you know, in my luck, you know you'll be writing and when we talk about this next week, you'll say well, you know, so it's so bad and I'll be like well, OK, I'm not mad to be wrong, but I'm saying that right now.

Michael Marcangelo: 42:08

Signature.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 42:08

Mac. So that's all I want. I just want a signature game. That's all I want. That's all I want.

Michael Marcangelo: 42:16

I would say vintage, mac Jones, you know.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 42:19

No, but vintage means they're going to get fucking steamrolled, like you see. So no, once again we're saying, and once again, now matter of his words, not mine and we're getting some, we're getting some of the week five matchup. They said you know, what do you, what do you envision you know it being the safety, mac oh, you know it's going to be Alabama, mac. Oh so you you said it, you, you. Once again, that's not the coach is saying it, not you, you came out of your mouth. Mac Jones said it's going to be Alabama, mac. Well, man, show me, so show, show us that 40 once again, and it will never be 41 to four. I mean, that was it. That's down to it. It would never be that. But can I, can I get 31 and 12? Can I get that? Can I get close to that? Just show, show me that you can do something along those lines, please, because right now, the fact is that what's the fucking outplayed you Sunday Makes you look even worse, make you look even worse, and I mean we literally a week a week after.

Michael Marcangelo: 43:26

Saying that that guy is the worst quarterback in football is not a play like Right, that's like that.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 43:34

But the game, the game he had. Yes, there's a game. I thought he was going to have a good thousand couple of years still winning. That was that's what happened? Yeah, so because it was a guy. I wish we joking about it, but we see it. That's why that's what we talk about. It's like we know once again that you can't make up the time that he makes, like that. That's. That's that's why Robert Sellers said we had somebody said about him, but once again he wasn't going to come out and be like you know, he wasn't going to become Tester Verde or Joe Namath overnight, but it also speaks to him. So because he was saying that he was soft, he quit. So he had. He had a bounce back game, had a real nice one. So who knows, I mean as Bobby.

Michael Marcangelo: 44:15

So eloquently as Bobby so eloquently pulled from my brain last week. I mean, they were his teammates, were wearing Mike White t-shirts last year, yeah, yeah, and this guy's still out there battling against my homes.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 44:28

Yep Right, so so. So that's what's the result actually.

Michael Marcangelo: 44:32

It does, it's 100. 100 percent.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 44:35

So you know what? So, Dr Jones, Keo White, Joss O'Chay, you know all y'all go go get a fucking Billy's Daffy shirt. Go get that. Go get that this week. Go get Billy's Daffy shirts.

Michael Marcangelo: 44:53

I think I was wrong. I think Bill hates Bailey more than he hates Mac, so why fucking draft it?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 45:01

Well, you cut it, yeah, I mean kind of, but I'm just like it's just like honestly I'm, I mean, and just this is going up the rails, but I'm like I'm at a point that let's, let's just see what I'm really trying to do. That's what I'm at right now.

Michael Marcangelo: 45:15

I think you'll be seeing Chicobe percent back in Fox about here pretty soon.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 45:20

You know what I'll take, that I'll take it over. It was good.

Michael Marcangelo: 45:24

They can make Chicobe t-shirts, because that'll actually honestly, honestly, um, what was that 2016?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 45:33

when he? Um, when they had him start for a few games, it was like, oh, like, okay, um, can you do enough to just not fuck it up? And that's what you call he was doing? Okay, fine, he knows how Bill operates. He knows, um, yeah, I'd be, I'd be okay with that. What's the idea? He ain't that good either, but it's just like my thing, I'll take anything. I'll take anything else. Um, right now, once again, looking what big to me feels the water, fucking Tampa, that's three and one and I know also Mike Evans helps. I know that, but God but damn. But what's?

Michael Marcangelo: 46:09

good.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 46:09

People said Baker was huh, but people get all baked and just as much as any other quarterback in his league. For us it'd be the strong he's coming to this three and one. Hmm, I don't know, I to me, I just it, just it looks crazy. People said, well, they might not win more than two games this year. They're in a killer way with two states, but, um, I don't know, I think I said both of those things. No man, what does this do? It was a lot of people said that, a lot of people, a lot of people was in that, in that category, I, I, I call it. On the other uh, uh different, uh different space I was in, I was talking to some people, I was like I, I, I had to be in Minnesota week one to say, oh yeah, crazy. And they came in and I was like I said, well, this might be a different season for them and it has been playing defense well, and they just, they just smacked the you know in Orleans. So you know, and that said, let's just get into that record. That's who we got this week. Um, tim and Bay held them to nine points. Um, newsflash, they will score more than nine points against them with Patriots.

Michael Marcangelo: 47:09

Um so uh hold on. That's. That's just a prediction. It's not a spoiler you know, oh, I'm just saying, like you don't know that.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 47:20

Wait, wait, that listen, that, that, that that's. That's the fact of life. Yeah, that's the fact of life.

Michael Marcangelo: 47:27

I mean, here's the thing about this game Uh, the Saints have had a uh, I would say a top 10 defense in the NFL. So, like the last 10 years, they're always they're just always good defensively. Um and Kamara's. It's just going to be his second game back, so he'll have some more reps in there. He'll feel a little bit better. I think, uh, I think, uh, michael Thomas has actually adapted to his new role of of just not being the primary guy but still running those you know slants more often than not, and then he has that one street Five yards, five yards yeah, um him, she Alvin, I mean is it? Yeah, chris, uh, olave is like your form, yeah.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 48:14

And who do you?

Michael Marcangelo: 48:15

have. We're going to put what, what, what, what the hell is his name? Marks Brian on it. What the fuck are we going?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 48:24

to do? I, I, I, I? There's no answer. That's what I'm saying. To think they're definitely, they might score 30s on Sunday. The Patriots, no, the Saints. 30, 30, 30, 30. Can't even get to 20. I'm talking about 30., 30 points. Are you kidding me Playoffs, like? Are you kidding me? No, no way, no way. And was it Derek Todd not a scrub either? What kind of people think that?

Michael Marcangelo: 49:02

Well, he's kind of scrubbish.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 49:05

He is. He better know who we have, and that that's where I'm at. I don't I, that's fine. I know this. They, they, they gon have you know what. You know what. You know what the issue is with the way right now and it's been like this last few years, except for 2021. We have become a get right team, and what I mean by that? If you're, if you're, if you're yeah. So for those that don't understand what I'm saying, I'm sure if you, if you come in to the wing or you're just coming into your stadium, we are a team that, if you suck the week before, as you just saw with Dallas, you can. You can clean up what you messed up against us, cause we're a lot. Whatever the fuck you want. You want to run for a hundred to the yards? You can have that. You want to throw up at 350 and have two touchdowns? You can have that too. You know why, cause it's been. But don't break. But all we've been doing is breaking the dam. The dam is wide open, the middle of the field is wide open, the sidelines are wide open, so it doesn't matter any place you can go. It's like Disney world, the happiest fest in the world, where you're fucking. When, no, when, no, when no wings are in front of you, you can do whatever you want, whatever you want. So that that's just what it is. So they, they, they, they, they would score 30 on Sunday and it was it and it and it may not all be, it may not be all their car in a lot, they and um and Michael Thomas, it may not be that you know they, they, they, they make them shanky. My God, I like, I like, I like them. Taste them Hill, or yeah, tastes them, yeah, so taste the hills. But I get. But I get two touchdowns on Sunday. He, he's going to get one running. He's going to get one song. He's he's going to throw a jump pass to Michael Thomas and it's going to be like man, what an innovative play. But a new real estate touchdown new Orleans, the store in 27, new England, nine.

Michael Marcangelo: 51:00

It's gonna be because Dietrich Wise is covering Michael Thomas in the end zone Right.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 51:04

Jesus.

Michael Marcangelo: 51:04

Yeah.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 51:08

Well words to the wise. That's not a good decision.

Michael Marcangelo: 51:12

You know. I mean, you sound pretty positive on the Patriots demise. Yes, yes, you know what. I think you're just trying to talk yourself into it. I don't think you actually believe that. I don't. I think you, I think that you honestly believe that the Patriots will beat the Saints, but you just can't say it, you don't want to say it.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 51:34

I don't believe it, I don't, I don't, I don't believe it. No, so, like, I think, I try to stop myself into it. After the Miami game I'll be honest about that I was okay, like you know, we're just, you know, we're a few offers, offers, a place from like really being two and two, and I was, I was trying to get there, but now fuck that, Fuck them, I don't know. No, I'm out, I'm out, I'm out. So I fully expect to get smacked off Sunday. I fully expect, um, josh McDaniels the following week to listen won't get us that, you know, the following week. But you know, just, you can have my prediction now. Um, I fully expect the Raiders to go crazy on us. I feel like the Vontes gonna get 160.

Michael Marcangelo: 52:19

No, no, no, no, that won't happen, but Josh Jacobs might run for 200.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 52:22

Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry Jacob is going to get 160 because he's their second best player, right? Or second best Right, um, right, so the second way, the Vontes. The Vontes will get seven receptions for 68 yards and a touchdown. I'm sorry it's Jacob. He has been to have 11 receptions for 125 and two touchdowns. That that's what it's going to be. I'm sorry, I forgot Josh. Jacobs will get 120 and you know, the, the protégé, will beat the will beat the student. We need to teach her all the math that we want to call them one more time Like, that's just what it is. So get, get ready to hear that. But yeah, listen, three and three. I can't, I can't even believe, like, and that's asking it on Twitter. I see that. I even heard it on on on local stations here in Boston Um, some, some of y'all were drunk and wasn't getting some of y'all the same. There's no way too much about football to be to really believe they're going to be three or three in a few weeks.

Michael Marcangelo: 53:20

I think we're just I'm going to speak for myself here. I think I'm just blinded by historical precedence. Right, it's, it's I, I. I think Bill has lost his fastball. I think he should not be a GM. I think Matt Jones is just not good enough, but I still, I still think Bill can be what he deems as bad teams in this league. And I think he looks at the saints without Drew Brees there and without, uh, and without Sean Payton there, and he says they're a bad team. I can beat them. I can still beat them. It doesn't matter who I have, I can beat them. And he does the same thing about Vegas. Now, I could be wrong, but if you think that we're apocalyptic, now, that won't matter. No-transcript what this will be like if we're 105.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 54:14

We don't have Mike. I'm telling you.

Michael Marcangelo: 54:18

Ray, they're gonna be three and three.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 54:20

So listen, okay. So I know we just look here and we're gonna do this again real quick right now. So this is week five, week six, week seven, week eight. Right, so week five, six, when Week six the breakers.

Michael Marcangelo: 54:35

Week seven.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 54:35

Here is the bills.

Michael Marcangelo: 54:38

They're coming here.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 54:40

Yeah, loss, loss. Stop stop, yeah, loss, Stop, stop, yeah. All right, three and four, and then dolphins obviously up there. Loss, Loss, loss yeah three and five. You may beat the commanders. You may, because what's happened so far with Airbnb is it's gonna look like Joe Thysman or is it gonna look like Reggie Grossman? It's one of the other, but no one out of luck. He's gonna turn to Joe Thysman and Curtis Sandwich will turn to Art Monk, right, and everybody back to turn to Joe Wiggins, like that's what's gonna fucking happen. So no one out of luck. That's what would happen out there. And then it's like all of them down to three.

Michael Marcangelo: 55:20

Just to be clear, I'm gonna say when, and they're four and five.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 55:25

I. They'll be two and seven, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe. Maybe they don't believe that. That's I do. I do I don't like they don't get the benefit of doubt from me anymore, mike, that's what I meant it's not about. Do I think they're gonna lose all the games? Like I'm not giving the benefit of doubt because all the stuff that I put into what they I did in the off season or what they did in the years past, like it's not the same. So I'm like I'm literally responding to what I see on the field, and what I've seen on the field requires myself, requires some others that have watched this team faithfully. So panic once again, If some people choose. Like this is a guy on Twitter his name is Dan Kelly, who I appreciate his page. He's always Mr Fucking Positivity, even he has something negative to say Sunday. So I was like, damn, if Dan Kelly is out here saying that it might not be a bill, then have you lost hold of it?

Michael Marcangelo: 56:22

I'll fucking out, I mean it's Well, you know what I wonder? Is what I wonder about this game is remember back in it was, it was 03. After the opening loss of the bills, bill buried the football or he buried the tape right, like he did something that brought them together. Do you think he has anything like that left up his sleeves? And if the answer is yes, do you think it works on this team anymore?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 56:54

What I was saying no is because I feel like the expectations are different. They were coming into that season I think that's the other guy, harrison. They got some people.

Michael Marcangelo: 57:03

Yeah, they just cut Maloy.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 57:05

What yeah the year?

Michael Marcangelo: 57:07

after nine and seven what?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 57:09

Yeah, exactly, so, yeah, they so okay. So perfect example. You go nine and seven. He says, hmm, you know what? I need to go. I need to go, I need to tweak some things. Let me go get this guy from San Diego that they said he can't play no more. Let me go see if we still got something left, not everybody practice. That's what he's doing with Juju, so yeah but that's yeah, but well, I mean, juju is a little younger than what Ronnie Harrison was, but yeah, I got that. I mean, once again, I don't even think they're putting even though Juju has it performed well obviously like that's not debatable. I also think that they're not even putting him in, they're not giving him a style of routes that he would be effective in. I feel like putting him in a slot running crosser routes with him not running comeback routes. That's not his game. He needs to run crossers where he can get ahead of his defender. His game is yards after the catch. Once again, we've seen it where Mahon was. Last year they were in crossers all the time. If you would lead him, he's out of there. He's been like that his whole career. Once again, he was 78 catches. Last year, 950. To thank your words, he didn't fucking forget how to play where I was here with him. So, but whatever, I'll leave it at that. But the thing is to say I fully expect one to five once again. For those that are listening, I hope that you leave your comments when we drop this. But I said the benefit of doubt is gone Once again if they win, cool, great, awesome, like it wasn't that I or I rather them get a win, but do I believe that they're coming into most games and have a chance to win or going to win? No, and once again, the reason why I it was that, oh, you're being dramatic about the Washington game, but for those that's listening some of you are listening, y'all know all the tongue shows, sam Houser has literally became either Rice Grossman at times or Joe Tyson, like it's either or. But like I said, no one, I luck, he's going to become the Hall of Famer. And, like I said, curtis, sam, you know, those boys and Terry McClaren are going to turn it to our monk and in child reckons and they go go crazy. That's just how it's been. So I don't know, but, like I said, my faith, my hope, whatever word you want to use, my belief and the team currently is gone and once again, the only way to restore it is if they show some type of dominance.

Michael Marcangelo: 59:38

But once again, that's not gonna happen, which you won't believe if you see it anyway. So I guess you told us.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 59:45

You told us they were going. It's gonna be a fool's ghost thing at three, even if they happen. So what's the point? What's the point of being three and three if it's still going to be fool's ghost, mike. So you're gonna be three and six a few weeks later. Well, what's that? For who cares? They go three and three and everyone goes. Yeah, they pay for this, the bad baby. And then you lose three or four in a row. Then what? Now you get three and seven. Everyone's screaming still. Take what the fuck is back out there. What bellies that be. And it's terrible. What's the point? Why are we delaying the process? We know this is a bad team. We know that this team is not winning a thing and if they did slip the playoffs, that it will be over soon. They got the bus and what's the end? That's not a prediction. Damn it. That's a spoiler. Like it is what it is Like nope.

Michael Marcangelo: 1:00:41

So just to be clear, my prediction for this game on Sunday is 2117 Patriots.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 1:00:48

I'm not going to be the first one to say that you don't believe that?

Michael Marcangelo: 1:00:52

Yeah Right, I believe that they're going to be three and three. I believe that they're going to go three and three, and then they're going to go to four and five, and they're going to finish the year at either seven and 10 or eight and nine. You and I had the only four. They are Right, so they were. That's it.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 1:01:17

But we also, we also mentioned, we came with the love we can. We said, and there was seven to seven and eight and nine, but look better. You know we'd be similar. Okay With that. Well, guess what, mike, they haven't looked better.

Michael Marcangelo: 1:01:27

They have. I would say that in two out of the four games they've looked better than they did last year.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 1:01:32

Oh, for a few drives, okay, sure, okay. No, that's fair. That's fair Either way. A damn result, and you know winning football consistently. But I'll give my prediction that we'll get out of here. You know the real prediction, but thanks, 24. No, we won't, and we'll be back next week to unpack that. So for Mike, I'm going to start again, and so next time we'll see you, peace.