Patriots' Rocky Road: Can They Bounce Back After Dolphins' Loss?

Micahel Marcangelo: 0:06

Welcome into missing the point. I'm your host, michael Marcangelo, joined alongside by my guy Hollywood Ray, sean Buchanan. And today we are talking about another hard fought loss by the New England Patriots, as they went down 24 17 against the Miami Dolphins on Sunday night football. Before we get into everything that was that game and preview the, the Jets week, ray, how are you doing and, I guess, how you're feeling about the game?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 0:36

Well, I'm good, I'm in support of my guy. You know senders Shout out. You know we're not. It's not a color, so I'll show tonight. But shout out to them for getting their win on Saturday night. Yeah, a lot of the stayed up to 2am to watch. You say otherwise, you're lying. Everyone is invested right now. He's even made Mike become a color football fan. So that that is awesome For what it's.

Micahel Marcangelo: 0:59

For what it's worth, though, bro. I fell asleep at 1130 and woke up at 140. So I did you catch the end of the game.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 1:08

Yeah, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't miss much. You know you saw the best part. You saw you know should do. What I'm hoping is in a New England uniform. We could talk about that later on next season, because that that dude is special and you know we're seeing enough for right before our eyes. And yeah, so it was personal. But no, I'm good. I'm not feeling great about the loss. I just like last week, I'm out of moral victories to give Guess that we're Bryce boxes with Bryce boss in a game unless you lose 40 to nothing. But that wasn't a case here. But there's just a lot of things that they just don't do well. And I said what unfold? Will it then unfold as the show goes on?

Micahel Marcangelo: 1:49

Do you think it would be better or maybe not better, but easier for us if these two games were 40 to nothing? Because it feels like, as a fan base not you and I, me, to some extent, really not you we're we're clinging on to the positives quote, unquote positives from this game, but it feels like like those blowouts would actually help facilitate some change faster than what this is going to. Because, all as a as a fan right now, then I'll turn to you it just feels like you know the Patriots are exactly who we thought they were like to quote Dennis Green, right, they are just not good enough, that's it, and they'll stay in games, but they won't, they won't win the game. But like, how do you handle these, these close losses, as opposed to like the blowouts that the giants suffered or that the just suffered this week?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 2:43

Listen, I'm listening. I'm a, for those who don't know if you heard me speak on any platform. I've talked about this before, but it's relevant to this conversation. So I'm a type two diabetic, right, I feel that my blood sugar goes through a fucking roof Every time I watch these games. So, whether it's the Southeast team, was it, you know, just getting there with the Bruins, I'm I haven't been as invested as them as I have with the other three teams, but it's like, oh my God, it's just like my a, one, c, whatever, whatever level you want to check, you prick the finger like it's going to go way up because my stress level at all, like I'm not. I know I don't feel good and honestly, I can't say I would feel better if we thought of moves 40, nothing, or 30 to 10 or whatever, whatever, maybe, like you know. Either way, you know you want to trust you and I. We're going to one lease and I'm not understanding. I'm not, I'm not understanding. I'm actually shocked on how many people on Twitter or X, whatever it's called no, it's not something that's brought on that right. I can't believe how many people are just in this life, in this positive. It's almost like we're like the twilight zone of like it's not on, that it's not as fault. You know the. You know the old line is this, the running backs is this. You know the defense didn't do this and I'm just like yo, like what, what? What has happened to to half of Twitter? You have pictures of nation Twitter, like what is happening? This is not. This is not the Boston fan base that I know that sometimes love Like this is not us, so I'm like we'll be really making excuses for why things aren't the way it is. Like, figure it out. Find a way to win. What's again? You made enough place to be there in the end for both weeks, but somehow some way, in a way, the words of you know I forget his name, but as you can get smart, you missed it by bad much that much, and that that's a problem. I'm sorry. Once again, if you heard this show, you have been an even offended show. First of all, we say thank you Because you're listening to this. More great, great content coming. However, you know my nickname for Brad Stamper's yo, yo, no, I've called Brad Stamper's horses Once again, much better. Gmd has been a joke, so let's put that out there. But what I'm seeing now, knowing that's turning into the football version of our shoes. It's the. We almost got the first down. We almost got his touchdown. It's like we almost coached them up. Like I was trying to do almost. And once again, me and Michael, both fans of Randy, almost doesn't count and she told us that back in 1998 was a great album. Never say, never, no, no, listen to that on Spotify. But like it almost doesn't count and I'm tired of the almost, I want to finish the story. Pun intended, I doubt what else you. I want to finish the story, that's.

Micahel Marcangelo: 5:44

I mean you are. Sir Duke is on fire tonight. I mean, you are just out of your mind, out of your mind before, before, before, before we get too far down into the negative rabbit hole. What were some, what, what were some of the positives that you did take away from from this loss? Because I you know to your earlier point, there are some.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 6:08

Yeah, no, I mean listen, well, listen, if everyone's number one takeaway today or yesterday, whenever people talk to body, as of course on Monday night, christian is honest, that he's, he's, he's the real deal. And what my thing is what? What do you know? Imagine drafting the talent that's there and it's like, oh, I draft the best or one of the best players available and it actually pans out what, what a fucking concept, bill, that I'm glad that you actually did that. He needs to do a lot more to turn your first side, but it's not the concept of the day. But yeah, christian Gonzalez was phenomenal Once again. Tyree kill. We had three catches, 34 yards on on him. He got the pick on on. Really, tyree Hill burns anybody that gets down there. Not only he catch up to him, but I'm the time he was like five, nine at best, on his birthday I think I was like six one, six, two. So that was easy for him to jump up, catch that. And it's funny because I'm the one who tweeted on our page saying I'm like, oh, god's little, fix sex loading. And he got the pick right after. I wish it was something, I wish he was able to return it, but I just felt that was coming Like I'm like big time players, maybe big time players, and I feel like he is someone who was in there and once again, I know I just bashed the office a few months ago, but I do think Matt Jones played okay I, but I did the cab. You have sort of saying by him play okay. When Matt Jones plays in no huddle, that man is top five, top five, maybe even top 10. And people may listen to this tomorrow. So that's the best exaggeration To that. I say I said I said oh, I said oh, well, you got a better say they could come on here and improve it. No huddle Mac is, is, is elite Like that dude. He I don't care if it's taking a duck and don't care if it's you know a seam route. Like he, when he, he crosses things very quickly and it's like when he, when he's on, he's on and I just to me. Anytime, I thought he has to slow down and look at, you know, the third, fourth, sometimes fifth option. That's where the sex come, that's where the indecisiveness comes and that's where you know fans of race to drive him to Logan airport to find his replacement. So I just feel that if we can put him as many you know no other situations as possible, which means that people need to be, you know, in top tier conditioning, which the team is not, because I feel like someone was always getting hurt. Then, you know, we'll see. But no huddle, mac is awesome. And then the special teams right, special teams. Really good, that was a hell of a play by British ruler last night. That's the key that we're talking about. But once again, that that was. You know. You told me to stay positive, so I'm trying to that. That was a positive play, you know. They kept the mini game briefly, you know, for the moment. So those are the three things that I'm thinking about. So no other Mac donzo. And then the specials need to play. Last night.

Micahel Marcangelo: 8:57

Yeah, I think so. My number one was was also Brendan Schubert, right, but we already you already talked about that Dennis Christian Gonzalez, I think the fact that he was down, he was with Ty Reek, step for step, which is which is unbelievable, but one but one of the things that has plagued New England Patriot defensive backs, since, for as long as I had been on the radio or a podcast, had a microphone in front of my goddamn mouth they don't turn around to play the ball and this guy that I mean, he caught it at its highest point, like every pundit out there that's played the game, that played on defense, said like you, that is exactly how you would teach someone to intercept the ball or to pass the fit and, as you know, to your point, you went, you got out the. You went out and got the most talented player that was available to you and last week he had a great past defense against against Brown. This week he goes one on one with Ty Reek Hill and he came away with the ball. That's my number two. Number three I'm going to go ahead and say Mac Jones was positive. And I'm going to say that he was positive because, yes, when you're in the no huddle he was, he's dynamite. When he runs the play action, he's still dynamite. But the fact that I look this up today, the average time between when you snap the ball and pressure is felt in the pocket or cross the NFL is 2.9 seconds. Mac Jones last night, 1.8. So, but he literally snapped the ball and had someone to worry about, and the fact that that he kept plays alive with his legs, that was super impressive to me. But that also leads to that also leads to a negative, because the fact that I had to utter those fucking words means that your offensive line is in such shambles and again we're going to transition right into the negative. I don't know if you know this, but again that that shows itself in the rushing game. Remandre Stevenson had 15 carries for 50 yards. He is averaging 30. I think 30 yards per game through two games and I got news like news for you he didn't forget how to run. This isn't on him. You are seeing the reverberations of that abysmal offseason in the offensive line and you're seeing and he's paying the price.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 11:31

So let me ask you this, right? Because obviously before we'll get some more takeaways going forward, the Bengals just released Lyle Collins, right? So Lyle Collins, when he came out of college, was a really good lineman, was good in Dallas, dallas and the best lineman in football for a few years he was a part of that was Zach Martin and the rest of that crew. Do you at least give a call, because once again, I know I was a team goalkeeper. Yes, do you just give a call and say, hey, what would it take to get you here in New England? Because my thing is looking at what Calvin Anderson did last night he wouldn't be even allowed to leave the locker room and like it's ridiculous. I said, when looked better than Calvin Anderson last night and that's a fucking problem, that is wild. I said when who was the first off pick here back in 2018, 23rd overall? You know, when he had two first rounders, he went 23rd of the day, drafted Michelle at that 31. You know, obviously. You know Michelle just retired before the season started, so you know that was that. But it's like damn, like when I when I said when it's looking like Steve Hutchison out here, that's a fucking problem, that's a problem and the fact that the matter is that Miami's defensive line they're not.

Micahel Marcangelo: 12:51

They're not world leaders. You're about to go up against two of the hardest defensive lines you're going to play all year and you were giving that shit up to Miami, right?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 13:00

Right Now. Can I make it worse though? You know who was out there last night. They, dan the Phillips was even out there last night. He wasn't even out there. They, they let Phillips, who played really well last year. I know they lost to LA last week or whatever, but I don't know. They don't know they be LLM, they be LLM, but they did, they won. But I'm saying like they, they gave up a lot of rushing guards and a lot, of, a lot of big plays to that, that offense. And to my boy, anthony, real quick, I told you about your, your charges. I told you, yeah, yeah, never a healthy one in matters, but that's the whole other story. We'll talk about it off camera, buddy, but I don't know. I'm like you lose it. You lose daily flows for the game, definitely the year to step off Friday and practice, and that's still happening. Then, once again, Bradley Tubb, hey, I know you came over from Denver, denver, you got a scrub. They got some other guys on that defense that that aren't, that are scrubs and it could play. That's not what I'm saying. But when you make them look like the 85 bears or 2000 Raybays or the 02 bucks, like that's crazy to me and like, the best way to get the past rush is to run it. And what was? What was the overall thing? Let's say it's 25 rushes for 88 yards, really so so that's what? Three, 3.7.

Micahel Marcangelo: 14:09

Maybe I carry, but for the whole thing it's 3.5 a carry, but your second leading Russia was Mack Five carries, 25 yards.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 14:19

And Mack has five to 25. So Mack was no hitting rush of purpose Like what, what do you? What, what, what? That can't, that's not the formula for success. It can't be Mack out there running for his life, he's already, he's not. He's not more woman ready, he's more mobile than Brady. But I was, I was here. I get that.

Micahel Marcangelo: 14:42

But it's like damn, like really.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 14:44

Like I, I, I don't, I don't, I don't understand. I mean, maybe maybe if they attack they ran a little bit more. I don't know, maybe it would have looked better, I don't know. But like I said, I, I to me, if you can, if you can, at least run block. I can understand having to struggle with pass blocking, but you should be there to run block a little bit better than you pass block a little bit, because when you're run blocking you're pushing the head, you're not, you're not, you're not retreating back. You should be able to push the head. So they clearly miss trend brown last night, which is wild to say, because you know he picked the choose when he wants to play. But I've seen enough of Calvin Anderson. I want that to be clear, that that is my takeaway Get rid of Calvin Anderson. That man does not need to be on a field by the reef, decide to be on a field. So all these little signs, they get Tybur really junior I. Just my thing is I don't know, I don't know how you sticking to Gendy, stop gaps. Is, is, is, is the answer. This is not 03. And that that's the fucking problem. He still operates like it's 03 or even 1975 at times. Stop, stop get players to think that they could come in and just do whatever. Everyone's not going to be Stephen new, Everyone's not going to be that. So I don't know I'm going off in his hands, I'm not. I'll let you, let you get back to run the ship, but I'm just, I'm just to me, I'm here for it I'm all over the place. It's not. It's not a control. It's not a control, I mean.

Micahel Marcangelo: 16:07

Calvin Anderson. Calvin Anderson made Andrew look like that. Like that's how that's how bad. That's sad and and people will say, well, maybe they abandoned the run game, but the fact that you had 25, 25 attempts when you were down 17 to three before halftime, they, they were pretty, they were pretty consistent with the rushing attack. They tried, they tried, but their line is so terrible that it doesn't matter. And again, mack had 1.8 seconds between when he snapped the ball and when he felt pressure. On average. There are very few quarterbacks in the NFL that could win a game with that, with that type of pressure coming out of them every single snap, and he's not one of them. No, not, not, not at all. I don't know.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 16:52

Yeah, but that's. It was crazy. We actually praised the life of playing well last minute against Philly and Philly got more dogs on on little bit because they gave a lot of them from Georgia Georgia boy dogs but they, they got more dogs on on defense then. Then Miami does what's good. Yeah, ramsey was out, phillips was out but we talked about this last week that the offensive line struggles didn't show up.

Micahel Marcangelo: 17:14

So much in the passing game, but it showed up in the in the Russian game last week. I mean, ramondray has been a shell of himself, has been a shell of himself this year.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 17:20

Yeah, and remember, you know you were not talking about it because you know we talked about how you you were worried as deep was going to take away. You know, from from one, from one, from another, it does Nope, it ain't, it ain't, it ain't got to do with it either. It's that damn line Cause they, they, they, they couldn't block, they couldn't block the code, they, they, they couldn't block anything right now, and it's like guys out there looking crazy. So I don't know if they have to do more screens, like I wasn't a choice, and then that's what I might come up with. Even then they can't, they can't even get off the blocks. That's the problem. They learn, they learn they cannot hold their blocks on anything. They learn they cannot hold their blocks on any type of play. That's crazy.

Micahel Marcangelo: 18:06

To me, that's the biggest difference, as well to me, to paraphrase the great Shannon Sharp, their offensive line is so bad they couldn't play dead in a horror movie Like it's.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 18:17

that was hilarious this morning. That was yeah, that was that was. That was like wow, yeah, right, right.

Micahel Marcangelo: 18:24

Right, but a thing that now it's only two games in, but I think we're starting to. We're starting to see a pattern here. One of the things that I wrote down that I wanted to talk to you about and just get your take on is for a team that you know, going into the season, we knew that they were not going to be able to win shootouts. They were going to have to dictate time of possession and really run the ball effectively. Offensive line is what it is. Why do you, if every team, including Bill and the Patriots, know that that we are not a team that can come back from a deficit? Why is it been two straight games were down at least 16 points in the second quarter?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 19:04

Maybe they're going for punishment. That's what I. Maybe they like to say that. You know, these other teams are our daddy. That's basically what. That's basically what's happening, and I forget who said it, but I'll take their statement so credit. Whoever just said this recently but and then not in the lead, is over, and that's why I did that. That used to be a theme across Boston sports right now, and Boston led team is not in the lead. I'm talking about Wayne it's. Oh, we know, we know why. I was just going to come to the surface and then I'm up, up by 25.

Micahel Marcangelo: 19:40

Well, no, no, no, no, no. If the Celtics are up by 25 or more, they're going to lose that game, but if they're down, they're going to win.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 19:48

They play a great second half. That's true. We'll get into that October when I blow a gasket about that, but it's I don't know what the round of reasons because, like I said, it's not like they haven't ran certain plays, but it's just like certain certain that there's been no explosive plays in the first couple of days, with some decent plays that we've seen like okay, cool, but I don't know what the the root of it is. I mean, the root of it is that they don't have great skill players. That's the root of it. But I, to me, I just, I don't know, maybe they should be more aggressive. To me it's, for the most part, reason Fuck the field position, unless you're, unless you're at the you're, you're like 21 yard line, like anything from the 35 and up. I may go for it Just to give my team a spark and say you know what I want to see, you know what, what's your, what's your made of? And perfect example. I say this a week, we can, we can move on, or you give your your response. I think about last year when it was I think it was the Giants versus Titans a week one, and no one has the Giants around that game. They thought Tennessee was going to win. And you know, a new code, new regime, whatever. People basically gave up on Daniel Jones and the rest of that organization. They, they come back. They were down. I think it's touching. They come back and tie oh no, they don't sign it down. One David says you know what? No, we're going, we're going for two. No one thinks we're going to win this game or whatever. No one's we're going to go. And they, and they get it, they get the super conversion. They don't win the same games that went to play off game last year and you know, people started looking at them differently and I'm like maybe that's what needs to happen here. Maybe someone needs to say you know what, or whether it's Bill, bill of Rye, whatever. Just say that you know what. I want to see what we're made of. I want to give us as many opportunities to be successful as possible. Let's just, let's just roll the dice Once again. You're not winning, you're not winning the championship, so let's just see what what people have. I think that's wrong, man, and I know that's all wild to say, oh, are you making a championship or a bus? No, but my thing is, I just want to listen to the fucking playoffs and but the problem is to get to 500, you got to win your next two and that's and I say once again, that's. He's very bleak. You're mostly won't afford that later on, but it's just like that. That's a very doctor's task at this moment, cause they, they, they constantly want to play from behind. So you know that was a super long answer, but the short answer is that they're a good for punishment. That's why they have the slow starts.

Micahel Marcangelo: 22:16

So can I? Can I tell you why? I think that the slow starts? Absolutely, because I think that the first two quarters of the game other games we've seen so far are exactly how we stack up against the competition that we played so far. We are 60,. We are 14 points worse than the dolphins and we are 16 or 17 points less worse than the Eagles. The problem in the NFL and I think this is this kind of goes for every team out there there's, once you get up 17 points early, I think, that whoever's leading always just kind of you know, takes their foot off the gas and they start playing a little bit down, a little bit more relaxed. Now, if you have a team like the dolphins, it doesn't matter because you can turn it on whatever you want. The Eagles, they can pretty much turn it on whatever they want. But I think what we're seeing in the first two quarters of the of the first two games is more representative of the team that the Patriots are and how they stack up against the really good teams of this league. That is what it should be. These games should have been 34-7. You know, yeah, but yeah, whether it's our resilience or the fact that both teams tried their hardest to keep us in those games. I mean, let's talk about the big plays that have been unfolded, because last year what we didn't see a lot in the first couple of games of the year were big plays. Defensively, they were good defenses and we were solid, but we weren't seeing, we weren't seeing fumbles, we weren't seeing interceptions and we damn sure weren't ever praising special teams. That all happened in this game. Yeah, I mean defensive stops. I think the dolphins were. Were they three for 10 on on third down? It was something like that. The Patriots held them as much as they were. The dolphins were four for 10 on third down, efficiency, I mean. And the Patriots were seven, seven and 15. So the defense did its job. You pick them off, you block a field goal. But let's talk about that, that, that interception by Christian Gonzalez. Toa throws that pick Right, gonzalez, great. And then Mack and the offense go three and out and the punt. They punted back to Toa. So basically, toa started, started with 12 yards further down the field and he did when he, when he gave the ball up, it was great defensive stands, great impact place in the offense, just fucking sputtered. And I'm I'm not a Mac apologist but I will say in this game that his biggest mistake was that awful throw to the Vante Barca on the sideline. But the other part of me wants to say well, we were told that the reason that we went and got to Vante Parker and then we re that we signed into another extension was because any one of those balls that you throw is a 60 40 ball in Devon James favor.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 25:04

He didn't even even near the boss. It didn't even contest no no, it wasn't even near him. And my thing is, why are we throwing on Xavier Howard in the first place? Why was that that? So it wasn't this not to what you want to like, but what? Why are we throwing someone the best corners of the game and of course I know he's on the field, so eventually you got to get at some point but scheme, scheme him open, so you're throwing money on the side because he's going to get most of those we started even in the end of terrible season last year. He had plenty of catch when he jumped over people and that that's possible, but it was. It wasn't even near him. And the fact that I mean hell, what Xavier Howard did was what? What most great corners do? He used the sideline as the extra defender. He basically, he basically got him out of the end, out of the, you know, on the boundary, but he was a little bit more independent to get him into catching it when they counted anyways, because you can, you can't be the first one accepted as you come back in bounds. So that that was great coverage on Xavier. How it's perfect. But what are you thinking in that moment? You just were giving the moment, and that's what I'm saying. That's what I was talking about. Where is the signature moment? And all the people that's crying about how it's not getting this, maybe Mac not getting this, not getting that? I just want a signature moment. Everybody don't corner back. For the last three years, just about, has had a signature moment, except Mac Jones. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. And once again, back to back weeks, back to back weeks. He's been given an opportunity to just hide a game, take the lead and, for whatever reason, he was under pressure. Literally effective, literally.

Micahel Marcangelo: 26:51

You know as well as in. It leads me to the last offensive play for the Patriots of the game, when Mac was flush out of the pocket Again, again, 1.7 seconds after it happened, the ball he's flush out of the pocket.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 27:03

Yeah, that was bad. Yeah, that was bad.

Micahel Marcangelo: 27:04

He throws Chikiseki, who's short of the sticks, but I mean, I don't know how. What else is Mac supposed to do? He got the ball down the field as fast as he possibly could and there was a lateral Colestrames. Well, you know he's short of the line game.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 27:17

You got there at all. Man he got, you got to do that first. No, he didn't get there, you got to do that first down there.

Micahel Marcangelo: 27:21

You know what he did, jet there. I mean, you got to do that first down there.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 27:24

Okay, the referees were not the reason. They, they, they, they, they, they, they, they. They reversed the remandre, or they couldn't reverse the remandre, but you found a way to reverse that.

Micahel Marcangelo: 27:33

I don't, I don't, I don't know, I don't know, I can be, I, that's that's we had we had the unfortunate luck in in that last play that you could actually see the knee down and where the ball was and it wasn't and it wasn't past the line. I mean, but the reason why I don't want to say that the referees blew this game for us or that they call the bad games, because that touchdown pass from Mac to Hunter Henry was illegal. Hunter Henry was a blocker, that was a run play that was blown up. He was down the field. You cannot be that far out to under scrimmage and block and then receive that everybody probably.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 28:09

Yeah, can I, can I, can I ask you that, and not not that it makes it better or worse, whatever you want to use, that happens every week, sure, Every week. And then that that, that, so, so that, so, yes, so technically, yes, that that is true. I was more impressed with the improvisation from Mac. Sorry, I was that that. That that's a play, that's what I need him to be. Be be that Mac, be that guy most of the time. Yeah, we could that. That was an excellent improvisation play for him, where I was like, oh, okay, cool, boom, get a little side on the slang touchdown, so that. But yeah, that Travis Kelsey does that of quite a lot and it never gets called. So it's, it's okay. I was again, they, they hardly call it. It's like traveling in the NBA it's, we know it's a rule, but it's not, it's not going to get called.

Micahel Marcangelo: 28:55

I mean the difference between when Travis Kelsey does it and when Hunter Henry did it last night or Sunday night, when I re-hear us into the show is that Travis Kelsey always looks like he intended to receive the pass. Hunter Henry was just as surprised as you and I were, but that ball was coming at him Cause that was not.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 29:13

He was supposed to run it. Yeah, he was going to run Right he was going to run.

Micahel Marcangelo: 29:17

So the referees did not cost us that game. I just I won't allow for that to be said.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 29:22

Oh no, no, no, no, I'm not saying that, I'm saying just for that yeah, I, I, I said if I I felt like Serena's done it once again, I'll go back and look at it again and I can have my other other narrative on that. But I thought, I thought that the ball got there. So I I just looked at the. I was looking at what, the what, the ball, what. I thought the ball was there. I thought it was. It was quick thinking on your second use of the half, like they usually could have just went down, it was again. Of course it's not ideal to throw it to your C alignment. And could you imagine and I thought about this is going to happen Could you imagine if we had the Dan Connelly part two? Could you imagine If he actually, if he actually broke the tap, would actually find a way to get the further away, or how he would store? Could you imagine that and that that would have been a wildest.

Micahel Marcangelo: 30:05

It would have been better, because the catch that Strange made was that was, I mean he, he almost validated he almost validated his first round selection. If he would have made the first out that that was his JD Drew play.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 30:19

I mean, he, he, he, listen, he was, he was. He ended up turning out to be a good pick last year. I know that he had to play in a little while, so I know that's why he was let's, let's. Yesterday was the first game he played. I think I doubt that he played in the preseason either. So, yeah, listen, he definitely would have been. His standards definitely would have been elevated had he got that yesterday. But honestly and we didn't say this, but whatever, we'll say it this, this is what we do when we call people out that last place on Bill O'Brien and the reason why I say that you got to call a play that's going to get six yards.

Micahel Marcangelo: 30:54

Can I just argue the fact that I think that the play design called for Giseki to be past the line, but Mac didn't have time to set it up, so he just he got it there, but I think if he had one more second that that's a. That's a nine yard in instead of a six yard.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 31:10

Yeah, oh yeah, but even in. I just my thing is in. Giseki and Henry so did last season. He sort of dropped their career. Run the fucking seam route. And they're coming like. They're coming like that. That means that means a single high will cover zero behind them. If it covers zero, that's a touchdown, or at least, or at least I would like to say in the eight to 10 yards. You know what I'm saying. Like that's, that's the play you run there. Or even you run the play that on that Tiber ran as the Mariners Thomas years ago when they sent everybody and I was like, well, get it out of his hands because he can't throw. He based the Mariners Tigers, run a slant and went 80 yards. So to me I just there's other plays that couldn't be called in that moment. Also, we just I don't know how we got this far in the show and then bring this up either. The best thing about that was a fucking joke. That was my next bullet point. No, that's why we didn't hear.

Micahel Marcangelo: 32:06

You jumped, you jumped it. But the one thing, the one thing I'll say is, if you have a chance to go back and watch that, that last play, I think you're going to be sad to realize that Miami didn't send the house. Yes, they rushed, they rushed five. They dropped six. Yeah, six back in coverage. They did not blitz everybody.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 32:27

Gotcha Well, got you. Okay, I'll go back and look Like I said. Obviously it felt like you could have outcooked. You got the ball out of his hands. But I, just to me, I just feel, I still feel like and it must have been because I was so excited to see that the seam were also going to be back in the office, with Albright coming back To me, I just that should be the go-to play in that moment, you know, or even run the seam and have it come in, you know, towards the middle of the field as opposed to coming out. That's my take on it. But, once again, we'll never know. I said we'll see what happens, you know, going forward.

Micahel Marcangelo: 33:03

But let me ask you a question who fumbled on their first offensive possession as a new one Patriot? Last week Against the Eagles.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 33:18

Oh Zeke right.

Micahel Marcangelo: 33:19

Yeah, did he play the rest of the game? Yeah, yeah, he didn't know he did. And then he played all of all of Sunday night. So why the fuck did Bill Bench pop Douglas Tell me why? He is the only, not the only. He is the the fastest person that you have on offense and he provided a spark, and not for nothing. That was a great defensive play more than it was a bad ball handling exhibit, but he didn't seem common. He should have took the ball, but I mean that was a hell of a pursuit and a punch at.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 33:56

Yeah, I didn't know the rally to have some moves like that. To be honest, I'm serious. I know these rally to have the discipline, the talent that was on that Denver team that won the other championship back in 2016. But I did not know that you could still move like that, to be honest, and yes, I mean I wish that he probably did like the Tiki Barbara had like up here, because that probably doesn't happen. Or, if it does, he's probably able to jump on it and then recover quickly, but I don't know. It's the same as the Malcolm Bulletin a few years ago. He inexplicably does these things and certain players on this slide what are you doing? This is the elephant in the room. This team is not good enough for him to still operate as if I could bench whoever and we still find a way to win. That's not the fucking taste. It's not. It's not so for him. Once again, the only guy on your roster right now that every place you get separation and I'm talking about every play, because we see it for practice this dude runs routes very well and once again, you know myself and some others had you know, clammerick for them to give Zay flowers on Boston College. Well, you guys. They thought it was light. You got him Like. He runs brown, just like Zay. They're about the same time. I think pop is a little bit bigger than Zay flowers, but what the routries there? The hands are there. My thing is maybe he does, maybe he responds differently than butte. Maybe he says you know what, I made that mistake. The next play I'm taking it to the house. And now you forget about that because he goes to score. So I don't, I don't know. I feel like Marcus Jones missed some mistakes last year too, but then we don't get the test that I just buffalo last year. Without that, we don't get the I was there for this game. We don't get the pump return against the Jax to win the game. So I don't know, like you're not good enough to sit players once again. If you want to bark at them on a sideline, fine, whatever, but to sit him for the rest of the game outside of the premise, it's crazy, cause if we read one back now, now he was going to look a fucking foolish Like I.

Micahel Marcangelo: 36:04

I.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 36:04

I well, either way it looks foolish. But I just to me, I don't, I don't, I don't get the premise. I can see you saying for a quarter maybe, maybe if that, but it gives a lesson.

Micahel Marcangelo: 36:15

You're dumb.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 36:15

to your point, to your point you, this team isn't good enough for them to do that I mean no, but even before, even before a quarter, I would have understood the quarter not to let the fucking game that's, that's what I'm saying Like I can, I get the, I get the quarter. I didn't even get a few possessions, but the rest of the game outside of partner times, because he foamed the book, that fuck, would it lose the game? No, no, no, I, I, I. That was, that was four down and that was the four down play that caught them. And then Bradley shot me, put yeah, we probably, we probably have a different conversation right now. Fine, that wasn't a case. It was in the first quarter, it wasn't a first quarter. So I don't know. Once again, this is just Bill, bill being Bill, I, I just, I just want him gone. I do, I just, I'm, I'm, I'm over it, I'm over the antics, because the antics aren't, it's not, it's not producing to the winds anymore. So it's just like it's not cute anymore, it's not fun, it's not good.

Micahel Marcangelo: 37:12

You gotta go the thing that I took away from it is that, after Pop Dog was, you know, coughed up the ball, the next time that they showed him on the sideline, on the bench, he had the ball, you know, like he was holding, and you didn't see. You didn't see a booty doing that. You don't see a lot of the guys that he took offense to it. I think he was going to try and make it better. I think it's ridiculous that Bill didn't give him the chance. But he does. He does for Zeke. Now, this isn't a knock on Zeke, this is more of a knock on Bill. Bill's a star fucker, always has been, always will be. He has his guys that he loves. I mean Otjo Senko, back in 2011, could not learn the playbook and did not deserve to be on the field and he was there, the leader, one of their leading target, leading target receivers in the Super Bowl that year. I mean so Bill has his guys and a rookie will never be his guy. Ever, ever, ever, ever. And I don't know that that, if not playing in costs you the game, but we'll never know because it didn't help either, and once again my thing is that you're going to call up so this is my thing to write the ad on to that.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 38:22

So you don't, you don't play him right now. I know this guy I'm about to bring in this really know the playbook like that, but he is fast. You don't even. You don't even let Jalen Riga to see the field either and you bring him up for the practice squad Once again. What, what are we? What are we doing? Like what? What are we doing? What is the point of bringing these guys in if you're not going to see the fucking field? What are we doing, bill? What are you doing? The team is 0 and 2 for the first half of the 01. And I've been waiting on nights to get to the kid. I was hoping that either you brought it what, what, whatever? Cool, I brought it up For those that the national pundits, the people that go on Twitter or whatever stop bringing up that or the last time they were on it too, it was the one. They want to fuck Super Bowl. That's not happening. They're not going to. They're not winning the fucking Super Bowl. They're not. They're not beating Pittsburgh or whatever. That's not fucking happening. So stop bringing that stat up like it's there that, that Jimmy Stanley? Oh yeah, well, huh, well, yo, there's going to be. There's no more Lewis coming next week. That's what? That's ironic. They're playing the justice team, that's ironic. But there's no fucking more Lewis. There was a CJ Moseley that has the same number as him, so maybe, maybe CJ Moseley knocks out Matt Jones next week and then it's up. I'm scared to be.

Micahel Marcangelo: 39:37

who knows? We're not. We're not in Josh's, that would be fucking crazy.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 39:41

That would be crazy. That's ironic how that really happens. They did play Dallas that same year too, like that's. There are some various ironing there, but let's be fucking real, right as of right now, as it's currently constructed, on September 18th 2020, then no one could be, just not a contender. They're not contenders. So let's not, let's not say our rage is safe, please, please, please, don't do that, like, please, don't do that to yourselves. Like God, it's not happening. So, but CJ Moseley, big job. I mean, I'm totally joking.

Micahel Marcangelo: 40:14

Yeah. Just leave Matt just leave Matt Galone, because Bailey's happy is no Tom Brady, and we'd be really happy if Matt Jones was Drew Bloodstone, let's just put it that way, I mean I mean all just aside, though.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 40:28

We have never seen since Brady left. We have not seen a crowd on fire here like it was when I went to Mexico. But that's the company last year. So I'm just saying they're clear. They're clear what's for them to do well, I mean Dapit, obviously he didn't. He didn't do well the rest of that game. But for whatever reason, folks thought there was some type of spark. And once again, after you said this before, if you have two quarterbacks you have none Right. And once again, the reason why people, the reason why people are trembling for us we would come in, it's because they don't believe in Matt Jones and they thought that Matt Jones would be to die. I just want to point out.

Micahel Marcangelo: 41:04

I just want to point out the fact and and the you know, the MTV Twitter X handle put this out earlier today and it was just a brilliant, brilliant take. So shout out to whoever wrote that it's only two games. It's only two games into it, but right now Matt Jones is on pace with third for 4,600 yards, 34 touchdowns and 17 receptions. If I want to tell you that, before this season started, you would have said sign me up, sign me up.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 41:31

So, yes, so yes, as a, as a, as a fan, for sure you'd have been like, yes, but once again, to take, to take your, take your stance. What does it matter if it doesn't? As a result, right there, I don't care. If you get almost 5,000 yards and they go 6 and 11. What? No way, no way. I read I read the youth, though for 3,000, like it's 1985, 17 touchdowns and 10 picks, and we'd be 11 and six. Then you get almost 5,000, almost 40 touchdowns, and then have those picks. I don't, I don't, that's, that's, that's, that's your boy. I don't, I don't want that. I don't want that. I, I want to be, I want to be someone of these. These other teams fear, and right now that's not the case.

Micahel Marcangelo: 42:21

It's always been well. We don't know if Matt can be, if Matt can be a prolific passer, and then if he, if he has the staffs that is that I just outlined that again, it's only two games then I'm sure he's not going to because he's facing the top two. T-pits is two out of the two top three difference in the world next, so it's probably not going to continue. Well, let's just say, in this warped, you know, sense of reality that it that it does. Okay. So essentially at that point in time, 4,600 yards, 34 touchdowns, 17 picks, he's Kirk Cousins or an early Matt Stafford Now you know that you can build around.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 42:51

I'd say, I'd say early Matt Stafford, now Exactly.

Micahel Marcangelo: 42:54

Because he's not. And who was Matt Stafford throwing to?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 42:59

Oh, I mean, we're no one right now. That guy had a great game.

Micahel Marcangelo: 43:02

No, no, no back. Oh no, he's.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 43:04

Cooper Cup. Yeah, Cooper Cup. Oh, he's not with Cavalos Austin.

Micahel Marcangelo: 43:08

Little guy by the name of Megatron Right, so like that was a man. If he listen, if they go 5 and 12, 6 and 11, and Mack has those stats, I think I would be more encouraged than I would, than I ever would be. That's crazy. I would be in him, not in the team, because that just proves. Imagine if he had a top 10 wide receiver. Imagine, because then you're going to flip that 5 and 12 into 12 and 5, because his defense is good enough.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 43:39

He needs Right right, right, so yeah, so now, now that leaves another person, and I don't know what I'm asking, because it's not what's going to happen, but I'm just going to ask it.

Micahel Marcangelo: 43:51

Justin Jefferson, I'm going to fucking lose my-. No, no, no, no, no.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 43:53

I don't even know what that is. Justin Jefferson ain't coming here. I don't even know what that is. Someone brought that up. They're smoking dope, even though I think he's the best receiver in the game. I think we tweeted it out, by the way. Oh, one of us is smoking dope. Justin Jefferson ain't coming here. Thanks, bobby, yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. Like, let's not even Come on now, do you make a move to get a receiver by a weak 8? That's the case. Oh, that depends on the weather. I don't know who, but I'm like it's got to be somebody that might be out there, just in a different situation. Once again, I thought and y'all have shot me down for this, because then again, they're going over it now, so they're probably not going to make any moves I really, really like I love Mike Evans. Mike Evans is in you know, for those here, I love Mike Evans. I think Mike Evans is he has specifically been the guy from day one. It didn't matter if it was James Winston, it didn't matter if it was Mike Glennon, it didn't matter if it was obviously you know, obviously and again, tom, like it doesn't matter who the quarterback was, mike Evans just produces, you know and he's playing with Baker Mayfield and he still had 6-1-1-1 yesterday. The man just In the words of Big Daddy Kane I get the job done, baby, I work, that's all he does. I'm like so, if you can find a way, because once again it's have a bay, look here, once again, it's a cute start they not doing that down there without 12. So they in the same position as we were a few years ago, and that's just what it is. I'd give whatever to get Mike Evans. I think you want to see Mike hit that league. Go get a guy like Mike Evans. I promise you. You know, it seems like they feel like oh, okay, like, this is what a real office wasn't like. I'm telling you, that guy is the man. He stays healthy and he produces. That's a build type guy. He produces week in, week out, regardless of who's out there. He blocks. Well, that's nothing that you know. Build celebrate sober. It's a hard one for you know. So it's a no-brainer. But then again, because it's a no-fucking-brainer, we know that it will be someone like It'll be Adam Thielen. Adam Thielen will come here in week in, as opposed to-.

Micahel Marcangelo: 46:20

Just to be clear. I wouldn't hate that, but let's just go down.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 46:23

Yeah, me either, but I'm like he's not on that level now.

Micahel Marcangelo: 46:27

I just think that a veteran wide receiver who isn't injury-prone and who's looking for an extension and a bigger contract is probably not going to be the guy that Bill's going to go after. I do think if this particular team is three and five or two and six before we gate, we could get Michael Thomas, like that's what you're going to get. That is what you're going to get. It's going to be an injury-riddled receiver that's looking to save the other team cap space. Would you do it?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 47:02

I mean him, and 70% is better than what we have, if we're being honest. He fits into the dinking dunk. He's missed the five-year-old slant. He's going to get 10 catches a game or five-year-old slant. That's what he does Every now and then. He might break one Every now and then.

Micahel Marcangelo: 47:20

Let me ask you a question, because we're really jumping the gun here. Do you think, in addition of Michael Thomas at the trade deadline, or someone like him, I would love? Mike Evans is not going to happen, though, because Bill doesn't roll that way. He wants either off the field issues or injury-prone receivers to rehabilitate.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 47:38

No, but we know, you just talked to him. I don't know if he has a rapport with Mike Evans or not. When this guy, if he would say okay, let me see if I can get that guy Once again, if we're talking about getting for a trade or bringing in a guy that can play at the white team from Randy we see the other guys, we saw him with us Walker, antonio Brown.

Micahel Marcangelo: 48:02

Antonio Brown.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 48:04

He was probably wrapping up for that quick week. So I trust him to go find someone else the team they come here and ball out. That's not my debate. If you say, hey, go look around the other 31 teams and say, okay, let me get a guy who can actually produce here, oh, I trust him, I'll handle it. Do that. He's scared of the draft. He can go find somebody else that can ball out and come here. So that's why I brought up the Mike Evans point Once again. I just look at it from a standpoint of like it doesn't matter who he's been around. The man has produced time and time again. He's the first ballot hall of famer. He doesn't miss games, he comes in. He's been at low maintenance. You haven't heard too much. So it's just like that fits in. And I'm sure now him and Tom may be on men defenses. So I'm sure now, I'm sure that that was the case. Hey, what do you think? Why is he? Of course, bring him in, bring him in, bring him in. And that's the case. I always have the conversation. So before that people need to have the conversation of saying, yo, can we get 13 here? What would it say? Once again, you gave a second for Mohammed Sunoo, like I'm and I was again, I'm not. This is not enough. On the bomb, it was really decent in Atlanta, really just in Cincinnati as well for a number of years. So I want to be clear. However, you gave a second for Mohammed Sunoo. Don't tell me you can't give a first on my guns.

Micahel Marcangelo: 49:34

Yeah, just saying Okay. So after the truth, or himself, aaron Rogers, one of them blew his Achilles glass. Week, you and I were talking, talking about how those jets games just became winnable, almost like W's right. After what you've seen from the Patriots against both the Eagles and the Dolphins, are we sure that the games against the Jets are as winnable as we think they are?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 50:04

So I've been trying this question all night. You know from our meeting that we had earlier, because I knew that she was going to ask us and I was wondering what my answer was going to be, if I was going to have a decent answer. But my short answer is that there's not a lock in, there's not a game on this schedule. That's a lock. We can't even say to watch the game later on in the years. To lock, nope, look at what they're playing right now. They came in for 18 yesterday.

Micahel Marcangelo: 50:32

I mean, it was still 10 first.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 50:36

Hey, definitely got a good defense. Well, suppose it's supposed to. It's supposed to have a good defense, you know, I mean, but it's like damn, I mean quick, quick aside. I'm going to do this and I'm always going to give him credit, you know. Just so you and I do what we're on here. Y'all better start looking at Eric Biennaby as the head coach, because what he's doing now, with he making Sam Howell look like a guy, looking like more than just a Jack, so the fact that he's making him look elite, but you don't want to give him a head coach job, but that's the whole other thing. But yeah, they look at him being a head coach soon. Come here, eric, replace Bill. But no, short answer Nothing's a lot. I mean, I would like to think is that what says going to play terrible? But no, when our luck, he'd come in there go 30 or 45, 320, two touchdowns, you know one pick, and then Bruce Hall gets 120 on us on the ground and we lose, you know 31 to 24. Like that's what I'm nervous of. So I don't think that's what's a lot. I thought last week what I saw. I'm like, no, not a lot. And I know they look bad against Dallas. Once again, they look bad against Dallas. Dallas is one of the three best teams in the league. I'm not the best team in the league right now.

Micahel Marcangelo: 51:55

And definitely like Dallas, is one of the most Definitely the best, definitely the best defense I mean they are, yeah, ridiculous.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 52:04

And what's what's talking about? Next Monday, when we do the show, we're going to be a shit show, like it's going to be bad. So, yeah, the jet, the, the, the jets came right.

Micahel Marcangelo: 52:23

The really hard part about this for me is that everything that the jets are good at, we are bad at. So I mean now, I think Garrett Wilson is a stud, yeah, absolute stud, obviously his offensive rookie of the year. But like that's doesn't mean any praise coming from me, I think that Bill will do what Bill does and he'll take, he'll remove him from the equation, right, so he'll do a. I mean, say what you want to do. He removed their, their number one weapon, yeah, but I, but I, I don't know what do you do against a team that has two, I would say two good running backs, maybe one great one, one okay, and and they're, they're both past catchers. Now, zach Wilson isn't going to beat you, throw in deep balls, he's going to try and I think we're going to. He's going to be a great one though, yeah, but for sure, but he's, he's, he's a little, he's a little too much. Brett, far with the opioids, you know, like if he just if he's just settled down for a second and thought about the play before he did it, he'd be much better. But he, his arm isn't his problem. He's got the quote. You know the great Jerry, the King Lawler, he's got a million dollar arm but a 10 cent brain, and that's why he just doesn't know what to do out there. That's why you bring in Aaron Rogers. But they're, they're rushing. Attack is good, there wasn't is a problem. And I think that I think, if there was ever a game for Alan was hard to take over, might be this one. I think it might be this one.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 54:04

So okay, so who? So who? Who would you put on the side then?

Micahel Marcangelo: 54:11

I would put. So I'm, by the way, I'm putting Gonzo on and a safety on on Derek Wilson, and if you need to put one of the Joneses on, on on Lazar, do it.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 54:25

Hmm, I you know what I'd like to see. I'd like to see guns.

Micahel Marcangelo: 54:27

Don't go man and man, I like to man and man, Unless you see?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 54:34

no, I should have left side.

Micahel Marcangelo: 54:36

Hold on.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 54:36

I say that back when I saw him do the stuff, the trade on dig Sunday meaning Gary Wilson, that that little, that little slug or rock, he ran on on digs and digs, didn't know what the fuck was going on I was like, oh, he let, he left that man in the dust and then went for 70 yards, got it. So never mind, You're right.

Micahel Marcangelo: 54:53

No, but the thing about that, though, is is that, gonzalo, you know, gonzo isn't going to be as aggressive as digs. The thing that that's that makes digs one of the most dangerous corners in the league right now is that he has no fear and he will play aggressive. We saw that a couple of years ago when they came into doing it. I mean, he picked Mack off and then the next play, mack on the bite for touchdown. That's not a knock on dig, so he, rather, I'd rather. I'd rather an aggressive corner always looking for the ball, as opposed to what we have here in New England, aside from Gonzo, but I think. I think he'll play. He'll play it as smart as he possibly can and is that Joe's gonna come back at all.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 55:30

Is he playing? He's gonna play.

Micahel Marcangelo: 55:33

Well, what there? I Brear posted, whether it was today or last night. He said that there was a freak injury to to his hand me, I think. Oh, two days before the Philadelphia.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 55:48

Yeah, he played. So yeah, that makes it right. He's still recovering.

Micahel Marcangelo: 55:53

So, but if you had Jack Jones, I mean listen, yeah, because I had to put Jack Jones on.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 55:58

It's all a Jack Johnson, a guardian Wilson too.

Micahel Marcangelo: 56:03

So that's a dynamic. That that's a dynamic defensive backfield, if you have gone to. And Jack Jones, because on between, between the sidelines, no, he is. He's everything that we, that we want him to be. Everything, exactly, correct, correct, yep. What do you think, given what we've seen, the offensive line, max Jones and Remandry Stevenson, have to have to suffer through these first two games, one of which is against a really good defensive line, the other, which you're going against someone called Van Ginkel, how bad is it going to be going up your next two opponents of the Jets and the Cowboys, specifically the Jets? How in danger of losing consciousness Do you think Mac Jones is heading into Sunday?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 56:47

So I mean I jumped about it in two or two months ago, but once again, CJ Moles and the boys, they come up with a blood. They come up with a blood and once again, who knows, we may have a more little soup on it.

Micahel Marcangelo: 57:01

No, stop saying that I'm just.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 57:03

I'm just, I'm just saying because the way, the way it ended up, once again it's not funny, I shouldn't make it, I shouldn't be none of it, but it's literally. I fear that's going to happen only because we can't protect them, but not because he's going around the bounds and get hit on the sideline. I just feel like he's going to do a five step drop plant on that, on that, on that fifth drop, and see if the emotion will be there mom, it was going to be there, bam and you and flat line him in a moment for a sec. So it's just like to me. I'm hoping they're doing different protection schemes. I expect a lot of full personnel next next Sunday, maybe, even, maybe even 22 personnel, two backs, two tight ends. Who knows, maybe you have Z-Games Ramadri in there to help protect in there or be or be guys that can release into the, into the flat, which is one of my favorite plays on that and which is the half back angle. So you know that to me should be in the foam in the offense right away. But yeah, I expect sauce to be highly evolved. They I forget the safety name, but they had a safety to have three interceptions against Josh Allen on, you know, on on on Monday night football last week. So my thing is, if they, they got three on Josh Allen, then me, I granted Josh. Josh Allen is a lot more aggressive and more aggressive than than Matt Jones would ever be, but then they, they got Josh, like that. You know, I can only imagine what could happen on on on Sunday. So I'm hoping they'll be the get the pass first by running. You know, I just to me, I think this is going to be a Z game. I think the Z finally breaks out this game and maybe more of it, more of it's a hope than a, than an actual, you know fact. But I think they I think this is the game that you know we finally seem to get into gear and be what you know they, they want them to be when they sign them. So but yeah, it's going to be tough. It's going to be tough. How do you? We'll do it the other one as we go.

Micahel Marcangelo: 59:00

But if you're, if you're a Billy, oh, how do you? Because we start to have this with with Karen Bure again, you can check that out on the show notes. I'm going to keep. I'm going to keep promoting that.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 59:11

But if oh, yeah, that was great, that was a great show. So, yeah, absolutely.

Micahel Marcangelo: 59:14

We're finding out very early that talent is is what's most important, right? We talked about that before that you can scheme it for so long, but at some point in time in the game or the season, talents going to take over. How did your, billy? Oh, how do you? How do you scheme around CJ Wilson and sauce garden?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 59:33

So I maybe putting someone like a second on the outside and then I show him in the middle of the field, but putting him on the outside he is like a bigger wide receiver. So I think maybe do us a stuff like that Second nose of bracket he played from at Penn State. So I think that's something that's doable. I also think, once again, just getting it out quickly, I don't love the little bubble screens as much unless you're throwing it to pop Douglas. I think it's just a shooter is not a bubble screen guy. I think if you run across this with usually Smith and let him run for 60, he can do that still because that's his game. And once we've seen the tape all last year, if you just if you throw it, if you throw across to him and he makes a guy miss, he could go for 20 or 30, which is why you sign them. So I don't know, maybe put that in the in the game plan to do that and see what he has to do. So I think doing some of that, doing some more seams and then run again, running those, running those flat rods, running those anger rods with Zeke, I think just doing more of that will allow them to negate what they're just trying to do defensively. I do think that just they're going to be aggressive, they're desperate for a win, as it would happen last week, and obviously it's pay, it's pictures, jets, yep. It's always going to be something that you know. Both teams are, you know what to win. I expect both bills to have their best game plan of the young season, because I think Bill never wants to lose it. He never wants to lose to the jets, so he'll pull out whatever bag of shirts he needs to in order to to dominate, whether they're good or bad. So yeah, we'll see. So we'll see if their best game plan is is, you know, results in a win. But you know I can't stay here and stay. I'm confident because I'm not, but you know the only thing that we have going is that they're facing that Wilson and I are Rogers.

Micahel Marcangelo: 1:01:26

Right, so, uh, I want to say that this game is going to be a 21 17 victory by the Patriots. Right, that's not, that's what I want to say, but this could very easily be a 17 to seven win by the Patriots, or if Zach Wilson figures it out and if he scored more than 25 points. You know, we know, we know, max record. What was, what is your final prediction here on this Monday? Ease for the upcoming week, jets posting the Patriots.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 1:01:57

So jet jets 24 Patriots 20.

Micahel Marcangelo: 1:02:01

Nice. Yep and as I started with that negativity. You want it and you just want to make sure that you end up with it as well. That's great yeah.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 1:02:09

I just, I just once again, give me your give. Once again, give me a reason to be positive. Message Get once again. We're used to this. Yeah, right, exactly Right. So get get used to this Monday, monday night thing with with me and Mike. We're trying to do this during the season for the pictures. So you know, we, we thank you guys for tuning in, but I, I want to be covered wrong. Next money, don't get me wrong. But what's it get with? My eyes are seeing whether I got shades on or not. I'm not seeing something that's worthy of saying that they're going to go out there and win. And what's it in? Oh, and four is on the fucking horizon, unless unless they find a way to get it done, and that's that once again, that's crazy.

Micahel Marcangelo: 1:02:54

I think you're rooting more for oh and four than you are to and to. I don't know.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 1:03:04

I'm, I'm, I'm, I can see it happening. I'm just like, oh my God, why wasn't I I? I rather it's who would, who would? Obviously, that means, okay, you salvage the first quarter of the season. Now you may have a shot in these next few games. You got the saints, after that, you got the cold coming. Yeah, Right, no, I'm saying, but don't. But now when, when you went to in a row, obviously your mindset because the shift was again, we see the team is working immediately in match with year, with 70 to roll one point. So it's, it's, it's doable. But at the same time, it's like, okay, what, what is going to be the, what is going to be, what is going to be a play, what is going to be the scheme that is set up? Like, what, what, what does this give? Give us a moment and what's the good? I'm, I'm going to keep popping on this until this happens and for those that listen to, whether you watch it on YouTube, listen to it on any streaming platform, until I'm not satisfied with Matt Jones completely, and so I see him get a signature moment. I, I, I've been clamoring for it once again. It would, it's working here. It would have been that Dallas game when they lost it over time it would. It would have been that that in anapolis game it's working here. And then this guy, Johnson, tell us that, hey, I'm actually really good too and I'm going to run 90 yards for a touchdown. Last year it would have been the Minnesota game, but then, you know they, you know they, they took down that. Uh, Hunter Henry, touchdown back. It would have been the Minnesota game, it would have been the Baltimore game last year, but he ended up getting hurt. He was, he was dealing that game and then he got hurt. So I'm just, I'm just waiting for just just one. Just give me a sense of a moment, Cause the other guy that got preceded him not, not not talking about Cam, but all the time with, with, with. Uh, we have a team, has some moments doing his career. Oh, you know just waiting for the signature. No, I'm saying, but, even, but I'm saying early on you, you can't, you can't have back to back to the moment. So I just, I just want that to happen once again. We saw the other quarterbacks Can we get? Can we just get that moment? Can we get that? Can we have an out of yet? And I, I'm just, I'm just hoping that it comes sooner or later.

Micahel Marcangelo: 1:05:07

It's hard to follow that up so I'm not going to try. For my guy, Ray Shandy, Canon's Michael Mark Angelo, saying thank you so much for listening to this and the point Talk to you next week.