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Super Bowl 56 Preview, Prop Bets and Deflategate Was Always a Lie

Super Bowl 56 Preview, Prop Bets and Deflategate Was Always a Lie

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IT'S SUPER BOWL WEEK!

On this episode, Mike and Bob break down the Super Bowl 56 matchup between The Cincinnati Bengals and Los Angeles Rams.  Which matchup and storyline are we looking forward to most: Joe Burrow bringing Cincinnati to the Super Bowl in just his second season while Matt Stafford finally makes it to the Big Game after rotting in mediocrely in Detroit for all those years.  Will the Ram's big defensive additions of Jalen Ramsey, Von Miller be enough to stop the explosive Bengals offense featuring Joe Mixon and probable AFC Rookie of the Year Ja'Marr Chase, Tyler Boyd, and Tee Higgins? And What is Cooper Kupp about to do to Poor Eli Apple?

We Talk NFL Super Bowl Prop Bets, from the National Anthem length, to Super Bowl MVP to is Snoop Dogg will smoke a joint on stage during the Halftime show with Dr. Dre, Eminem, and Mary J Blige.

Finally, we discuss the report from Mike Florio of NBC's Pro Football Talk's Deflategate report that ESPN's report of "11 of the 12" Patriots footballs were underinflated, and that evidence and studies that Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, and the Patriots did nothing wrong was swept under the rug.
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Transcript
Michael Marcangelo:

Welcome into missing the point I'm joined alongside by the real BK Bob Kelly. It's been a long time we get Craig D'Alessandro you won't see his face, but I promise you he's here. The EP that does all the work and never takes any of the credit publicly sides for himself. But this week, it's Super Bowl week, Bobby. And we have a lot to discuss. There's a lot of news outside of the Super Bowl, but I figured like this is a you know, a pretty good place to start. But before we get into that, why don't we do something that we don't usually do pleasantries? How are you?

Rob Kelly:

I'm good, man. I mean, we might as well it's been a while since we've seen each other you know, might as well catch up with each other for the public to see you know what? Yeah, I'm good man. Exhausted. I'm not sure if any of the listeners out there know, either three months old.

Michael Marcangelo:

Oh, Jesse. That that was that was the dad card. Just please just played it.

Rob Kelly:

Pulled it early. Yeah, yeah. No, it's It's, she's the cutest thing in the world. But the worst, the worst. I won't say the worst part about having a baby. The only downside is you can't you can't ever get mad when she keeps you up till four in the morning. Because then she'll just give you this little smile. And it's just everything goes away. All your madness. Everything is gone. Yeah,

Michael Marcangelo:

I mean, I was your roommate in college. You kept me up till four o'clock in the morning and you didn't have a cute smile. So I kind of understand it minus the minus the happy face after but I'm great. Thank you for asking. Let's get into let's get right into it's a critical week Bobby. It is a matchup that I think, you know, it's not getting a lot of attention. Everyone said that it feels like a down year or or not a lot of buzz. I'm really excited for the Super Bowl, because I do think that these are the two teams. That matchup the best against each other out of the ones that were left. You know, and going into championship week, but I'm interested to hear your take. Yeah,

Rob Kelly:

this was this was definitely my number one pick for the Superbowl combination coming into this week. I just think when you look at when you look down the line at the matchups from top to bottom, it's just juicy matchup after juicy matchup. I mean, you got first obviously we got to Joe Burrow. Cool. Joe, cool burger. And we got Matthew Stafford, who might be the biggest choke artist of all quarterbacks. We're not sure we'll see after this week.

Michael Marcangelo:

I don't know. I don't know, man. I don't know.

Rob Kelly:

But then we got Jalen vs. Ja'marr Chase, man, that's gonna be just four quarters of the best corner, one of the best corners versus one of the best wide receivers in the game. So I'm pumped, man. And also Plex is different. That that's the biggest thing that I'm pumped about is for the first time. And what is it? 30 years. We have a quarter we have a Super Bowl without Tom Brady, without Peyton Manning, without Ben Roethlisberger. And without the 49ers every Super Bowl in the last I think it was 25 years has had one of those things in it. So for the first time in that long, but we got something different. I'm pumped about it. It's worth

Michael Marcangelo:

noting that 10 Out of those last 25 were Tom Brady, but like that, that we don't need to really get into that almost almost half. Yeah, I mean, when you look at the tail of the tape, right? This, everyone and when I say everyone like if you go on to the four letter networks website, it says that the LA Rams are a 66% favorite to win this game. That that instantly makes me want the Bengals to win. And we'll talk a little bit more about that later on. But I think it's I mean, I truly think it's going to come down to the moment being too big. Right. And I think what we've seen from from the tiger King Joe Burrow is that he owns the moment he he literally there's not one moment that has been too big for him. He came back from down what 14 or more points twice against the Chiefs once At Arrowhead in the AFC title game. I mean, that moment would have made anybody's any rookie quarter you know, second year quarterbacks butthole Parker up just a little bit and he walked in there and he absolutely never lost his cool or his faith in that and his team. Don't want to say I told you so this early in the show, but I did tell you that if the Chiefs scored less than 24 points, the Bengals were gonna win. And I picked the Bengals. Funny how that happened. But in this game I I'm with you, man. Two marches against against Jalen Ramsey. That's the matchup which then means if they neutralize each other or or if Ramsey shuts him down Who's the next guy up? Right? I mean they they, they might have Is it their tight end might come back CJ. CJ Uzomah Yeah, he might play. I do think and this is just a hot take again really early on in the show. If the Bengals win this game Tyler Boyd will will will have the most receiving yards for the Bengals that's just that's just my take not a prop that now we're not gonna get into that yet. But I mean, I know that you mentioned that these teams are so evenly matched Bobby. But when you really think about it, right, so points per game. If if we're just talking, you know, just just two and a half guys talking because Craig is here, but he's on mute. And this cameras off some of the time. Well, I'd say who scores the most points out of these two teams who was it?

Rob Kelly:

Like game by game was yeah, this season this season? I probably have to go rams just because of the high powered enough of the offense that first 10 weeks. They were awesome. They fell off after that, but I gotta go rams.

Michael Marcangelo:

points per game. The Rams of Los Angeles 27.1. The Bengals 27.1. Wow, dead on trick question. Defense. You know, you think about all the officers that that that the rams have and that they mortgage their future again, to get Von Miller. Who has the better defense? Is it even close?

Rob Kelly:

No, I'm gonna I'm gonna guess Bengals on that one. Because I know a couple stats for the Rams. So they have the top notch guys. Once you go down once you get past them. It's a crater to the bottom. So I'm going to I'm going to go back with

Michael Marcangelo:

points per game. The Bengals allow 19.7 The Rams allow 18.3 Wow. Wrong again. So, but when you like when you think about it, that's why when you if you know, for all of you out there listening right now. Don't listen to the to those to the four letter networks. Listen to this three letter pod. Right. You know what I mean? Because this is an even matchup. This is I mean, this is almost as even as it gets, you have two teams that will that average shift, you know, 27 points, and two teams that hold the opposing team to less than 20. Figure it out. So I do think it's going to come down to the quarterbacks and when you want to if you want to talk a little bit more about that, Bobby, when you do when you when you think about Matt Stafford, right? I'll tee you up for this one. Matthew Stafford is three and three in the playoffs in his career. All three wins have come this year. So before obviously he was only three terrible team, we all get that. Does the winning streak continue? Or what do you think happens in this game that propels one quarterback over the other?

Rob Kelly:

It kind of goes back so this actually kind of leads right into my my matchup queue here because I think the two biggest matchups in this game are going to affect each quarterback actually are going to affect Joe burrow tenfold. So the first thing is the the Rams D line versus the Bengals O line. If Joe burrow can stay upright in this game, right, the Bengals could win this game by 1015. If Joe burrow gets sacked seven times in this game, and bankers could still win this game by like the Titans but I think that's a huge matchup because it borrows up. I think he's gonna tear apart this branch defense because beyond Jalen Ramsey, right? If you look at this ram secondary, it is to say that their average would be giving them the benefit of the doubt. So if we're going by pff ranks, everyone out there is listening knows what Pffs deontae da da on 68.3 73rd Out of all cornerbacks. David Long 61.1 130th Out of all quarterbacks, Taylor Rapp, 58.8 151st. Out of all secondary, Nick Scott 58.7 152nd and Garius Williams 58.51 54. And that's the ranking of all cornerbacks and safeties in the league. And then you have Jalen Ramsay way up at the top and fifth. Well guess what? Jalen Ramsay just got his hands full guys. He's not going to be able to bail you out of this game. He's not going to be able to to cover you know, how have the zone read and have demand demand coverage? You know why? Because he's playing God James Ja'marr Chase all day long. And if you're telling me that T Huggins and tower board can't beat up on this secondary, as long as borrows on his feet. That's what's going to be the game that it was the same thing last year. If the Chiefs kept mahomes up that game last year, the chiefs might win that game. But the Tampa Bay Front seven took that game over. And to me that's what the rams have to do to win. And that's what the Bengals have to do. Yeah,

Michael Marcangelo:

I mean, Listen, when you read off those stats about how just cowboy like that secondary 2020, cowboy like that secondary is sorry, Bobby is and you still just come to the conclusion that they're still only allowing 18 points a game. What does that tell you? They have not met someone, or come across a team that has been able to overcome that pass rush, right? It's Aaron Donald. It's Von Miller. And it's Jalen Ramsay taking away your first read. So, you know, I'm not a coach, and none of us here NFL coaches. But if I were, I would make the argument right now. That Jamara Chase should not be jobos first read, because he will probably be locked up if they start passing to to Higgins or to Boyd early and quickly that will make the Rams just on their feet. And maybe maybe that opens up the chance for Mr. Chase to to to come alive. I do also think to your point when you said that you think that they could win this game by 10 If this becomes anything more than a one score game. I think we I think we're going to learn everything that we need to know about Matt Stafford I think we already know it. Right. But you know, the the sports fan and us say Yeah, well he was with the lights. I get it. Let's see what has to happen. And what she does when he's down 10 points in the second quarter or the third quarter, and he cannot make a mistake. Because what we have seen you know in that Tampa Bay game, he wasn't he wasn't awful. But when he needed to make a play when they were making that third quarter run or the fourth quarter run he couldn't do it. He might there might come a time in this game where Matthew Stafford the man again that you mortgage your future on when you traded sunshine and you all your first round picks to get him he has to do it. This is the game for him to do it. And if I was a betting man, I'm not I wouldn't bet on him

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, Matthew Stafford is absolutely one of those quarterbacks that you bet on and within the first quarter within the first SEC first two quarters you know how that bet is going and another thing is once Matthew Stafford gets down to me your best over because you're completely right every time just do gets down back. He either has that huge pick the pick six or something happens with his team where his team just absolutely melts down around them so I couldn't agree more with that woman I gotta say though, so we've been spending a lot of times heating up the bangles you just spend a lot of time kind of propping them up but I feel like we're kind of forgetting about our guy Cooper cup on the Rams Okay, so I think that's another big piece of this is obviously if Cooper cup dominates this game like he has for the for literally the entire 22 regular season I don't think it matters what happens with Matthew Stafford BAM because listen Cooper cup can make I think Cooper cup could make are even though fucking 20 Carter look like a good quarterback he can make Brian oil look like a quarterback you like that? No, I'm just saying like Cooper cup is is a special football player so I I just can't wait to watch you know Chase first cup. Can't wait to watch Ramsay verse guys. Such a good game man. I'm pumped.

Michael Marcangelo:

Listen, Tampa Bay you don't have to be at a a you know a brilliant coach to understand what not to do with Cooper cup. If you are tired or if you are up by two or three and all our two points and all they need to do is to get a feel goal to tie your to beat you do not play zone coverage against Cooper cup. Because that's what Tampa did or don't call a blitz and then forget to have the linebacker actually Blitz. Right. So cover him make Odell Beckham be you in a hole. And it's that that sounds like I'm hating on them. I'm not. Cooper cup is the man 145 catches for just under 2000 yards and 16 touchdowns this year. That is a banner year. What's interesting though, Mr. Chase is a rookie as a rookie had 64 Less catches for only 480 Less yards and three less touchdowns. So the Bengals are more are more likely to take the top off of the defense. Now. I don't know how you're going to stop Cooper cup nobody has this year. But again if you do if if Odell Beckham has is playing against soft covers as well He's gonna let you up. I don't think that he's uh you know, I don't think he's a headcase I don't think that is crazy, but I do. I do believe that if the game is not going his way by like the second of the third and he feels like he's not being treated the way he should be treated by the offense. He, he could take himself out of it. So it is going to be interesting to see how they manage that but this game has a ton of storylines.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, so that brings me I gotta I gotta ask a couple questions here. So when you look at this game, right, and you look at who you think is gonna win. What I what I keep looking at is the disparity between the Bengals how young they are in their young head coach, young quarterback, young wide receivers, and then you look at the rams and is literally the complete opposite where you have obj you have cup, you have Stafford McVeigh's Bindu is Super Bowl. Donald, you have all these all star veterans all over the field. What do you think is more advanced? Do you think the rams have the advantage going with the veterans who have been here before and who have been in the league and know how to handle this situation? Or is it ignorance is bliss? We're here we're gonna kick your ass because we're the bangles. It doesn't even matter. That's a Super Bowl where the fucking bangles.

Michael Marcangelo:

But I mean, you need to have you need to have your lieutenants on the field. Not have the moment be too big for them right now. I've already said that a couple times today. So I'm sorry for repeating myself. But we know that as as you know, we've seen so far there has not been a moment that's too big for Joe Berra. Right. This is his first Super Bowl. But he's he's going into it as man, this kid is accomplished so much. Look at him. And like his career is going to be so good. Other side, Matt Stafford, this is his first Super Bowl, and he's walking into it. You need to win to shut everybody else up. Because as it's currently constituted, everybody thinks you're a choker and that you're a loser, that you're seven and 184,000 against winning teams. Right? That's, we've talked about that

Rob Kelly:

a couple times. That's a factual stat. Ladies and gentlemen,

Michael Marcangelo:

you can look that up. It's not fake news. But then you can also you know, Odell Beckham, Jr. This is his first go at it. He's never been to a Super Bowl. So do I like him or Jamal Chase, who the last time that he was on the field in a playoff situation, not the NFL. It was to win the the College Football Championship. Right? There is a pedigree on on the Bengals side. That being said, pedigree moments, all of that. If you can not block Aaron Donald and Von Miller, it's over. We will update everybody. And their mother, including us. Will will link you back to the draft recap show that we all had. You can check the show notes here. Where we said I get why the Bengals went for Mr. Chase. But they should have drafted that offensive lineman that was there. How do you feel? Yeah, they should have done it. Because what good is Shamar Chase? If chill burrow is not standing up? We're gonna find out we're going to find out on Sunday.

Rob Kelly:

You know, it's funny because like, neither side was wrong. They're right. When you look back at it like Yes. If they had picked Sue, it would have been awful because they wouldn't had Chase electrifying player. But like listen, Joe burrow got sacked an NFL record 51 times this year. So it's not like it was like, Oh, thank God, we didn't pick that offensive. What? like, Nope, you needed him to? It just so happens that Jamar Chase and Joe burrow and you have to chemistry energy is so goddamn good. That it doesn't matter when he gets sacked seven times. Right. He's still gonna go back there and you're like, Listen, man, it doesn't matter. I'm Joe burrow. I'm just gonna scramble over here for this first out and he's unbelievable, man.

Michael Marcangelo:

Yeah, I mean, I would also just say before, before we move on, though, what comforts me is knowing that you know, Joe burrow isn't coming out of, you know, the AFC East where they don't have really good, blitzing defenses. He's coming out of a division where Pittsburgh goes for your Baltimore goes for you. Miles Garrett and the Cleveland Browns see what you want about them. They go after you. And he came out of that division and he came out of the conference. But you know, that tells me that he knows how to, you know how to adapt. And let's just see if if McVeigh can stick with blitzing him, or if Joe starts checking it down early, what do you do for from a defensive standpoint?

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, and I think that so he, he's gonna look to check down early I think and I think that's, I think that's gonna be huge key. Another huge key is definitely gonna be the run game. Brands only allow I think it's under four yards per carry for the postseason and for the regular season. So I think that's you Joe Mixon is gonna be a big part of this game because if he can run the ball, you can start doing play X against this rams defense, you can keep that front seven you know away from just pass rushing constantly. That's gonna be huge man, which kind of leads me over to? You already said it. So the Rams mortgage the future this this this offseason or this offseason, then again in the regular season and to me, you know going back to my original question is like what's the what's the advantage? I think the biggest advantage here when it comes to the veterans versus you know, the young guys is the guy the Rams traded for as the trade deadline. That's Von Miller. He is going to be such a big presence for this rams defense such a calming presence, because, you know, Aaron, Donald's been there, rams, he's been there all these dudes have been there. Guess what? Vaughn Miller's been there? He won. And not only did this dude win, but he won Super Bowl MVP. So So that's such a calming presence for the Rams in that locker room. I'm still not sure who I'm gonna pick, you know, we'll get there at the end. But I really think Vamo is gonna play a huge part in this game, strictly because of that experience that he

Michael Marcangelo:

has. Yeah, it's real. I mean, it's, it's for sure. Real and I don't I don't want to just count that. It's, this isn't 2015 Von Miller now. Can he? Can he channeled that for one game? Can he convince his teammates around him that they should rally around him for this one game? Maybe we've seen it before. I would just say if, if the game comes down to Von Miller being able to make a play or not, the rams have absolutely mismanaged that game. Because it should that game should live and die. On the arm of Matthew Stafford on the hands of Cooper cup. And on the ability of of, of Jalen Ramsay and Aaron Donald, and you should use Von Miller as it as the supplement. Right? He is amazing. They get you over the hump. And that really helps you like crush a team. I don't know. I again, hate me if you want it. I don't I don't know that I would trust him with with the game on the line just given you know, given his age and and given all the wear and tear on on those tires.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, and you know, I'm not so not saying it's the the play, that's going to be the big part. Because I mean, obviously, Jalen Ramsay, Aaron Donald, and the rest of these, these all stars are going to be the difference on that view. I'm just saying the, the present the presence of that chance. You're gonna like this of that championship pedigree. Being on the field. I just think it's such a big thing for them. Now I gotta, I got to say, man. I'm a little nervous. So I want to say nervous we have. I'm a little hesitant, okay to pick the bag. Okay. And I'm going to tell you why. When it comes to history when it comes to what you've seen the NFL, right, you have the the bottom of the barrel, you have the basement of the NFL, right. You have the New York Jets, you have the Jacksonville Jaguars, you have the Cleveland Browns, and you have the Cincinnati Bengals. Okay, so I just think the past history. You know, I don't want to say it's gonna have a big deal, but I feel like it's got to play a factor right. I mean, the bangles, bangles literally haven't been here since they lost to the 49ers by a billion. And before that, they had never been there since then. They haven't even sniffed the Super Bowl, even even sniff the championship game. Nevertheless, a Super Bowl. How big of a factor you think that plays? I mean, it's got to have something in their heads anything?

Michael Marcangelo:

No, no, because I would just say like to your original point, this team was too young to care about any of that. But they're not. They're not lifelong Cincinnati people. They're all just pretty much newly acquired newly groomed bangles. Right. So they don't care that that the ADA Bengals get their asses kicked by Montana, six years after they get their ass kicked by Montana the first time and I say it to you, right. Like, they don't care about those things. It's rare here. The lat I mean, just just think about it in the last three years. Their their quarterback will have won the Heisman Trophy, will have won the world have taken his team, you know, the LSU to the College Football Championship would have been drafted number one, then would have led his team to the

Rob Kelly:

Super Bowl win rookie year to today. No, he

Michael Marcangelo:

was injured. Now. Herbert one are crazy, right? Yeah. But so based on any of those accolades, does it sound like there's there's any any chance that he doesn't feel like they belong here?

Rob Kelly:

They call him Joe burrow for a reason. Yeah.

Michael Marcangelo:

So I guess I would just say that the the experience in terms of the NFL, that probably helps them because they don't They don't care. They do you know that there's there are people on this team that weren't even alive. Their quarterback wasn't alive the last time the Bengals won Super Bowl,

Rob Kelly:

not even Super Bowl with us and they want to play off game. Right? Right. There's there had never been before that game against the Raiders. There had literally it is a factual statement that there had never been a text message sense in the history of text messages about the Cincinnati Bengals winning a playoff game. I think it's like the last playoff victory for the Bengals was like January 1992. Before this year, and the first text message ever sent was like January 1994. So not only hadn't there been attacks about a bangle, but Mr. By about a year and a half. So

Michael Marcangelo:

it was 31 years since they'd won a playoff game. Imagine that 31 years so yeah, I mean I don't think I think this is this it's not obviously it's not the same it I think the spreads only a four point spread at this point. Okay, this feels and this feels a lot like your your your normal. Cook. Do you know David versus Goliath? I don't think that all the pundits are expecting the Bengals to put on a huge fight or put up a big fight and just to relate it back to another show that you can find in the show notes. So you know, the rewrap it's a little bit like a 2001 patriots versus the ramps, right. Except they're the Bengals are getting much more respect. I would have to say or maybe the Rams aren't getting nearly as much as they were 20 years ago.

Rob Kelly:

I think it's the Rams aren't getting as much as they were.

Michael Marcangelo:

I mean, they were they were like 14 points.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, this isn't the greatest show on turf, but Marshall Faulk ain't walking through that door. Okay, so one last matchup question and then we're going to get into some we're not going to go too much into the bats but I do want to touch on some some cool properties that it didn't see out there. But one last thing before we get into some, some little betting action out there. The only big matchup I don't think we've talked about yet. Is the Bengals secondary versus the Rams wide receiver. Okay, I know we touched on but there's there's more than just cup when it comes to this offense. We have cup. Got van Jefferson, obviously, you got obj Higbee. Who's the other guy? It's good, isn't it? I can't make her Sony Michelle. You know, the list goes on. Sony Michelle. Do I know right? Mister 3.8 himself. So how big of how big of an advantage? Or do you want to call it advantage? Because listen, dude, so do you think the bangles that we see is going to be the bangles that we saw in the first half against the chiefs that looked overmatched that looked like they couldn't stop that high octane offense, or the one we saw in the second half that made those adjustments, man, because you've seen it time and time again, that it literally is a Jekyll and Hyde Bengals defense. Right, they can give up 40 points. And then they can give up three points. So which one do you think we can? We'll see. And, and why?

Michael Marcangelo:

Well, I guess what I would say is that those teams are the same teams, right? It wasn't it's not an anomaly that the Bengals are down 17 points against the chiefs and came back to win because it happened twice this year. So you know, great point, you can say that they played terribly in the first half. And yeah, I think that the record book would state that. But for a team to be able to make those types of adjustments at halftime and, and an institute them and follow through them and come through and win the game because they've already done it before. I think that that that speaks more positively about their character. And I would just also say I maybe I'll even ask the question. Chiefs offense, a rams offense. gun to your head, which one would you take? Wow,

Rob Kelly:

that is a tough one. I think chiefs offense made right, they have more and they got they got the quarterback.

Michael Marcangelo:

So if that's the blueprint, right, and they they were tired, like I said 17 Twice them and still won both of those games. How do you not believe that they could do that against against the Rams now? Maybe it comes down to coaching. Andy Reid is is is one of if not the worst clock managers I've ever seen. ever say what you want about Mike Tomlin.

Rob Kelly:

I got I got one for you in Dallas. I'll challenge you with all that. But

Michael Marcangelo:

before Tomlin did it, and he was doing it in four consecutive NFC title games with the Eagles. Right. So this is this is this is from s t 1999. He's been doing it now for 34 decades. That's what he does,

Rob Kelly:

says Donovan McNabb was throwing up chunky soup. Right

Michael Marcangelo:

exactly. So if if McVeigh does not if he meant is the clock better which it'd be hard not to maybe the Bengals don't have time. I don't know. It does feel like that the Rams trust their their their rushing offense a little bit more than the Chiefs do. So maybe they can eat up more clock but I think it's going to be if the Bengals hold the here's what I'm gonna tell you. If the Bengals hold the Rams to less than 75 yards rushing the game they're gonna win that game by 10 Like it's not going to be close because like that the Bengals the Bengals are over the season average allowing 128 rushing yards per game. And and and the Rams only allow 54 So if you see the Bengals with the ability to cut 50 yards off off the rushing attack, it's because now the rams have to throw and oh by the way, the Bengals average more passing yards per game than the Rams did. All season. I don't I just man, this this is so weird for me to say. I don't see a scenario in my head if everyone remains healthy, or Joe burrow loses this game, or if it's a blowout. I don't see that happening. So if everyone remains healthy, and the Bengals lose, they will lose by one possession. I can see Matthew Stafford losing by 14

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, I like that a lot. I especially like the I really think the if the if the Rams don't have 75 yards rushing. I think that's a great Call, man. Because if Sony Michel and kingmakers can't get something going against the Bengals defensive is not the correct yeah, there's like 100 102 yards per game. But so it was close. I was good over 100 That's that's pretty good. Yeah. But so over 100 yards per game given up on the ground, they need to get 75 Agree. The other point, right, so the Bengals defense this year, before the playoffs was average was 26 in the league, and passing yards surrendered a game, and 25th in the league, or 24th in the league and points per game, right. Since the playoffs began, the rams have now gone off the ramps that I said rams the whole time. national titles, the Bengals have gone are actually in their final seven games, including the playoffs, the Bengals defense has held appointments to fewer than 21 points, and five of those games including three of them in the teens, and two of three games. The Bengals defense held their phones to fewer than 19 By holding the chiefs to 24 on the championship and Sunday. So I'm gonna pull a mic, right? And tell you that if the Rams don't score more than 21 points, it is a guarantee from me a guarantee that the Bengals win this game if the Rams want a chance in this game, right? When you look at the the makeup of these teams, right? You have the bangles who are who are battle tested, who are tougher, who are going to kill you in the trenches. We're just gonna, I guess I'm in the trenches are officers on trash, I forget who are who are gonna who are gonna battle you. Until that last second, right? Then you have the Rams, a team that almost blew a 27, the three lead and the conference championship to Mr. Brady himself. I just feel like if it comes down to a low scoring, you know, punch you in the face beat the shit out you type game. It's got to be advantaged angles, just just because of the makeup and the Mojo that that team has gotten right.

Michael Marcangelo:

I'm going to do one better. Oh, I'm going to see I'm going to see your I'll pull a mic and pull mic.

Rob Kelly:

I do pull a mic often.

Michael Marcangelo:

At least weekly. I would say if the Bengals score more than 28 points, they're going to win again. Regardless of if it's 4531 Doesn't matter. That's their number. If they get to 28 points. Learn to win this game.

Rob Kelly:

So I think we just so everyone out there we agreed what else say the same thing. Yeah, I know. So that everyone out there. Saw that FanDuel bet for the A or for the championship games. I know you guys saw it. Where the guy gets the correct score for both games and wager 20 bucks and made what like 140 grand something stupid like that. I think we just got our correct score Batman, I think we just did this like, like, right on the air. Just genuinely 2821 2821 Right. Okay, Joe's right. We're gonna put that in the back of the head for later. So so that kind of goes right into it to the next topic. So every year, the Super Bowl is amazing, right? Everyone loves a Super Bowl because not only is it the biggest football game of the year. Not only is there all this anticipation all this storyline, but even non football fans can can enjoy the Superbowl because I don't have commercials. But yes, prop bets and little prop games that you know, there's a lot of in game that's a lot of things that we can talk about about the actual game, which absolutely we'll get into. I'm not going to get much into like the guards and stuff because that can get very lengthy a lot of overachievers there. But there's a couple non sports related bets that I did kind of want to chat about. See, see what you guys think and see where we're leading here. So one of my favorites to do every single year, obviously, is the length of the national anthem. Okay. The length of the national anthem this year, is that one minute and 55 seconds. Okay. I got I got some I got some good stats for Hang on. So the past 16 Super Bowls. There have been nine unders, Billy Joel for the lower two minute 30 and seven overs. Alicia Keys has the longest national anthem ever. At two minutes and 35 seconds.

Michael Marcangelo:

She can say whatever she wants, for as long as she wants.

Rob Kelly:

average length is about two minutes. And when she sang the national anthem, Mickey Guyton which, by the way, I don't really know who that is, you guys have not culturally kept up to date, apparently.

Michael Marcangelo:

I don't know about that. I don't know that needs a bit, but I think she's a country thing.

Rob Kelly:

Okay, so when she sang at the national Memorial Day concert, she kept a very brisk pace. So what do you think? Over Under a minute and 55 Does she savor it this time around because it's a Super Bowl

Michael Marcangelo:

under now, but here's the thing. The thing about this is I have a question I don't want to like this does need to be its own segment. Jason live because if they don't sing live, then whoever then the people that have this information, and have the recording already know how long it is.

Rob Kelly:

Ya know this thing life? You sure? Yeah. It's usually on the 50 yard line.

Michael Marcangelo:

Yeah, but, but their, their lip syncing? Uh,

Rob Kelly:

I see what I mean by that. I

Michael Marcangelo:

don't I don't know. I don't know who does who doesn't. But if they do that, and that's a real profit if I if I worked for the NFL production. Oh, over under a minute. 55 You better believe this bitches going 157 And not this bitch the Sanger this bitch the song length. Okay, before you try and cancel me just want to make sure they're on the same page here. I'm gonna say under

Rob Kelly:

going under. I gotta say I think it's over. Just because I I love it when it goes over. Because you said there there was a video going around last year if these dudes that needed the the singer to hold that last note brave for like five seconds. And they sat there and he literally held it for like 5.4 seconds. And oh, place went nuts. I gotta go over just because I love

Michael Marcangelo:

it. Can I give you can I give you one? Yeah, absolutely. Will Snoop Dogg smoke on stage. Now, over the course of the last five years, Snoop Dogg has performed 344 times total. And during those, I got my own stats to and during and love it. And during those out of those 344 Stage appearances, he has smoked 195 times. Does he smoke on stage? Yes. Is plus 195? No is minus 250 by the way.

Rob Kelly:

Oh, so you go twice odds if he smokes weed on stage? Yeah, I'm going with smoking weed on stage. If there's anyone who is ballsy enough to do it on the national stage like that. It's Snoop Dogg. And if there's anyone who would do it to to get I want to say give the middle finger but yeah, to get the middle finger to like, I mean, it's legal. The right to Well, that's true. But like, isn't

Michael Marcangelo:

it 9040 More of yeah, if you dropped crystal meth on stage, you'd be given the middle finger to the man. But he's on the barrel. He's smoking a Glock dog is tripping balls. And is it? Is it Snoop Dogg or Snoop Lion? Like? Yeah, I don't I don't know if this if this even is if it's even a thing. Only thing that the only reason why it would be a controversy is because the NFL doesn't allow you to smoke marijuana because they're headquartered in New York, which again, I'm pretty sure don't quote me on this. It's legal illegal. Yeah. So it doesn't make any sense.

Rob Kelly:

Doesn't Nope, you're right. Makes no sense. It's because the NFL just wants the big pharma companies to make money and they just keep popping, you know, it's the whole thing. So for so leave me writing my next one is perfect. So first, first person to say during the halftime show. All right, we got Dr. Dre at plus 150 Snoop Dogg plus one at Eminem plus 250 Mary J. Plus 300. Kendrick Lamar, pump 350. Personally, I think it's a no brainer. I think it's Mary J. Man. It's got to be married yet. But what about that? What's the foot size called? But there's once I will make J Blige just comes out and just belt right beginning. Yeah, I think I think it goes with that.

Michael Marcangelo:

I don't know who here's what I did who was advertised first on the billing? I thought it was Dr. Dre. Snoop Dogg. So I think that they're telling us something there. I think I think he thinks first. Alright, fine.

Rob Kelly:

We'll go I like Dre. I think Eminem is a no bet for this one, like Eminem is not going to be the first person out. He's not going to be the first person that is saying he's Eminem is the dude that you know, everything gets quiet. And then all sudden, the spotlight shines. And it's just Eminem and everyone goes crazy.

Michael Marcangelo:

Yep. I'm gonna give you one more thing. Give me one more. Who, who will the Super Bowl MVP mentioned first in their speech? Teammates, God or Jesus? The city? Family or family members? Coach? Owner or none of the above?

Rob Kelly:

Average Joe burrow. It's the city. Oh, if it's Matthew Stafford as God, or Jesus, or Jesus, yeah, because he put in he put him in the situation to get him out of Detroit and bring him into to LA or actually ever Stafford is either God or Jesus. Or why rams or the Rams organization for believing in him that he could turn this franchise around.

Michael Marcangelo:

I think it's gonna be his wife for always believing that he had this. It's a good one.

Rob Kelly:

Good vote. So first, we're going to go back to halftime. First song, okay. California Love. Next episode. Still dry. Nothing but a G saying lose yourself. Ah, this might be the winter drop it like it's hot. All the stars are humble. Or all other songs aka the field.

Michael Marcangelo:

Oh, God. So I yeah, I don't think that it's California. I don't think that I don't think that's the one that we lost. But that's gonna be obviously it's gonna be so what? I mean, what if the first version of this thing is to POC? I mean that that'd be so damn funny.

Rob Kelly:

So that that's another that's another prop two. Is there gonna be a Tupac hologram?

Michael Marcangelo:

There might be. I think it's still Dre.

Rob Kelly:

I like that song. And it would be perfect. Because it's been so long since anyone's seen Dr. Dre perform. It's been. You know, I think that's a good one. Or I a field song. I need a doctor. He remember that? Wasn't good.

Michael Marcangelo:

Yeah. Anyway, I could take it easy. Recycled percussion. Please. Craig, did you have something that you wanted to say? No, nothing. Are you sure you put the microphone to your face? Yeah,

Rob Kelly:

bring it back. Let's hear it.

Michael Marcangelo:

What do you think? If you don't like you just edited out you have you have the keys to this guy? You do it? You know, this kind of music just isn't my you know? Yeah. All right. No, you should have said that. Let's see going. So anything else? You want to talk about the Super Bowl, Bobby?

Rob Kelly:

About the actual show? Yeah, I mean, how would we even been on for that long?

Michael Marcangelo:

I would know. Yeah, I just think now you know that comment. Last comment was set. I mean that just that that just sucked so much. But speaking of sucking how's your golf game you on Bobby?

Rob Kelly:

Not too bad. I wish I wish there was something out there that could just you know how helped me out a little bit. Maybe take a couple strokes off my game. I wish that existed though.

Michael Marcangelo:

So what you're saying is like you want it just to suck just a little less,

Rob Kelly:

just a little less brow just just a little less? Well, the

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Rob Kelly:

missing the point support the NFL and all their opinions on all matters no matter what.

Michael Marcangelo:

Oh, you want to swing a golf club? This is how you do it.

Rob Kelly:

Go so Wait, before you go before we go out so I do have a couple of that

Michael Marcangelo:

bad of a person people.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, neither. Neither was Jon Gruden

Michael Marcangelo:

ouch, ouch ouch. Yeah, actually was a shitty PR I can I can hear a certain two letter simmer Right now that that's just just just chomping at the bit to tell us about how how just Jesus Christ were just blown so good it can't

Rob Kelly:

surprise you can't hear it like it was like joining so a couple of non crazy that said you know don't involve yards anything crazy. So first one is will a highlight video clip of Chris Collins worth playing in one of the Bengals Super Bowls be shown during the broadcast? Yes.

Michael Marcangelo:

Should he was right I mean,

Rob Kelly:

you know Chris You know,

Michael Marcangelo:

Ari he's probably the, the best receiver that they've ever had. I mean, he's I mean he's he's a Hall of Famer right? Yeah, of course he is. Yeah,

Rob Kelly:

who else is there?

Michael Marcangelo:

Oh Cho cinco GJ Huisman zili, the two years that Terrell Owens was there can't be and then I mean, I just now it's two marches are AJ green? I mean, AJ green probably has a lot of green. Yeah. on staff. But yeah, you better show Chris Collins right? Because that a blink and look alike is the best thing that that city had for so long.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, that's a fact. You got it. You have to especially call the game. You know what I mean? Like, so last. So we'll do tomorrow. And then we're going to do MVP.

Michael Marcangelo:

Just be clear. When I say we're gonna do two more. That was six, six months ago.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah. Well, we have 45 minutes or five. How long? Can you talk about the flake gate? I'm probably the only time right. So will there be a flea flicker non QB pass fake pot or onside kick in the Super Bowl? Yes.

Michael Marcangelo:

Yes. Which works? Well, thank you for asking. I think that there will be an I think there will be an onside kick.

Rob Kelly:

Okay. Okay. Yep. I can't I'm kind of feeling so this kind of leads into this next one. Players to throw a pass over two and a half. So obviously, you're going the under there. So you don't think there's gonna be a non QB pass? No.

Michael Marcangelo:

I don't think there's going to be two or three non QB passes.

Rob Kelly:

Well, no, no. Number of Players throw pass so far. Oh, one more?

Michael Marcangelo:

No, no, no. No.

Rob Kelly:

Who do you like forever, VP, last one. So I'm going to give you a couple. I'll give you a couple names. And there are just a cuckoo clock plus 460. Don't mix them plus 600 Jamara. Chase can't be right. I did that. That's first touchdown. So awesome. A Super Bowl MVP. Obviously, the top two Stafford borrow, plus 120 plus 225. But if you were to pick any non quarterback to win the Super Bowl MVP, I'll give you a couple we got cut plus 50 plus 550. Donald plus 900 Chase plus 1600 obj plus 2800 Von Miller plus 3300 acres and mixing both at plus 3300.

Michael Marcangelo:

Alright, so the trouble that I had with this is that if you know you assume that if Chase cover obj are in the running for an MVP that they're just going to give it to the quarterback for throwing on the ball right now. Unless, unless it's like a you know, jet sweep or something like that, that that really accounts for a lot of the yards. I'm going to go with you let you know. Okay, so I firmly believe that the Bengals are gonna win this game. However, if they don't, the MVP will be Jalen Ramsey.

Rob Kelly:

Because he gets it because a couple picks you think?

Michael Marcangelo:

I think you know, I'll say I'll say he has two picks and a fumble recovery. By the way, one of the picks is a pick six.

Rob Kelly:

Oh, okay. Just now, I think if it's if it's not borrow or Stafford it's got to be copper casement because when you look back at anyone who's not a quarterback to win MVP, think about your branch won a Super Bowl MVP, right? Julian Edelman won a Super Bowl MVP.

Michael Marcangelo:

Okay, quick question, but I'm not seeing the Patriots tirade. Just does Julian Edelman win the MVP that year? If it had not been for that one catch? That was the most ridiculous sketch ever seen in my life?

Rob Kelly:

Julia Emma doesn't win the MVP if he anyone scores a touchdown in that game. No, but let's say

Michael Marcangelo:

the Patriots still win. But he just doesn't catch that ball. But almost hit the ground off of defenders cuz he went up.

Rob Kelly:

Was it was not too that was different here. No, yeah. I don't mean didn't win. The Falcons admin didn't win. I mean, the Rams. You're right. You're right. So that's why I think if anyone, if anyone scores a touchdown in that game, Edwin does not win MVP and MVP, because that's why he went member who's like 11 for 129. And no one else did anything that entire game, but those are the two for me. All right, like it's time

Michael Marcangelo:

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I

Rob Kelly:

gotta tease it. Go ahead.

Michael Marcangelo:

No, no, no, no. What's the final score the game buddy. Maybe we said 2821. Like, this is your one chance to cement your prediction and your legacy here as the second annual MTB Super Bowl preview show.

Rob Kelly:

I know we've been trying to talk the bangles up because Mike's been saying hair just jerking the bangles off all show. Yep, these are happy. These are happy tissues. I'm gonna roll with the bangles man. They've showed me everything I need to know these past few weeks. Heart wins. Super Bowls. We've seen it before giants. They all these teams that that

Michael Marcangelo:

right? What are we gonna have hard?

Rob Kelly:

bangles, 27, rams, Bengals

Michael Marcangelo:

31. Rams 17. That's my prediction.

Rob Kelly:

I'm putting money on both of these scores. Great. It's illegal in New York, by the way. So okay.

Michael Marcangelo:

Now, before we wrap up, this show you all gonna appreciate this. We're gonna do a little bit in the new segment. I'm going to start because I think I've been bought you know, this genie has been in the ball for far too long. When we've been talking about you know, we've got on the air tonight. The flaky deflate gate. One of the biggest atrocities ever committed against not the Patriots because the Patriots are cheaters. I'm a Patriots fan. They cheat. Every team cheats. They could just cheat so well that they win. And then they get caught. Right. We now know. Based off of a book that I believe it was Mike Florio of. of he's pretty prominent reporter always on NBC. 11 of the 12 balls that were deemed to be outside the predicted range that first Chris Mortensen report from ESPN. D and know who his source was. Who was Troy Vincent? Troy, Vincent told Morton sin that awful why number one number two you want to know what else really pisses me off Bobby about this tip? Can I can I can I just tell you

Rob Kelly:

please, please tell me like I'm dying.

Michael Marcangelo:

And the 2015 season after the flaky after you know after that this this big thing that caused the patriots to win so many games out of the blue out the the Indianapolis Colts and then I guarantee you there wasn't there wasn't a deflated ball in that stadium and the Super Bowl ones with testosterone or not at all right? The Patriots won that game balls fully inflated. The next year, the NFL decides what they're going to do is they're going to run a season long report and a season long test to test the ideal gas law just to make sure that they can validate their argument against the Patriots. You know what happened? Do you want to do you want to know what happened? Bobby? Can you just guess what happened?

Rob Kelly:

Judging judging by the NFL his track record with stating factual things that are factual I'm gonna guess it didn't go too well for them.

Michael Marcangelo:

Okay, so that's right,

Rob Kelly:

which is where they without merit, is that

Michael Marcangelo:

okay, here's what happened. Throughout the entire 2015 season, the NFL would record psi levels of all football games at all footballs pregame during halftime postgame it was like the NFL. It was like the NFL was trying to see if nearly a two century old scientific principle was actually true. And that's that's worth noting the ideal gas law because when Troy Vincent, when Troy Vincent cited that 11 of the 12 were below that what they should have been in that game. When asked about a did he consider the science he said and I quote, science did not come into play. Don't quote me, paraphrase me. That's what he meant, though. So now fast forward to the 2015 season. Florida reports. Once the numbers started coming in exactly as predicted, and thus producing readings that would exonerate the Patriots. NFL General Counsel Jeff Pash ordered the data to be deleted. Talk about a hit shop, say what you want about the Patriots. Okay, I get it. They cheat. Yep. Spygate, all that Sure, they still didn't tape the Rams in the in the walkthrough. And even if they did, and you knew about it, sorry, but they didn't do it. I mean, we all that fine. For the NFL. Too large smear campaign against, I guess the guy who up until that point, you know had been pretty much kept away from the Patriots or the Patriots cheaters, Tom Brady was was clean, right? The fact that they, they, they made him sit out for games of a season that they eventually won the Super Bowl and I get it, there was a, you know, TV 12 Revenge tour. That could have been a smear on his record. And it shouldn't, it should never have been. Now, I'm a patriot fan. I'm a Tom Brady fan. Sometimes it's hard right now, especially when he was playing to figure out which one I was more of. But but in reality, you know, the Patriots have cheat, they've been caught cheating so much that they do not deserve the benefit of the doubt. Brady did and the fact that that the league destroyed evidence that would have exonerated him. And oh, by the way, they made up the story that Tom Brady destroyed a cellphone. Didn't happen. Never.

Rob Kelly:

But it's unbelievable that the NFL would. So it's not definitely not unbelievable that the NFL would delete the corrupt organization and slides hangs on to the table. That's 100% of fact, second thing. It's so crazy that the NFL would take its greatest lair ever, not not, you know one of the best not the greatest player ever. And do this to him to the point where it everyone out there if you haven't watched Man in the Arena, good need to right now because it's amazing. If you watch that, man, he got to the point where you know, his mom, his mom was battling cancer, there was all this shit going on in his life. And I know we've all been there, okay, where he just got to the point where he was like, You know what, fuck this. I'm not, I'm not fighting this anymore. It's not worth my headache. I'd rather just put it behind me served by four games and be done. The fact that you put the best quarterback ever in that position, to me just speaks volumes about who you are as, as an organization. It's so crazy that this this organization who who said that? Racism in NFL head coaching hires was without merit. Who said who who suspended? Who didn't suspend right right at first, and then the video comes out and all of a sudden he public enemy number one? Yeah, who who invested millions of emails, only one that comes out is Jon Gruden. And you're gonna bury your course, this is the most popular organization in the world.

Michael Marcangelo:

Well, just like most just like every other organization out there. This is it's a corrupt one. Now I just don't want to conflate the two. One of one of the things that you just mentioned that we're talking about what deflate gate is important in the context of sports, the other and the the racial disparity between head coaches and GMs is important in the context of fucking human civilization and decency. Right? So,

Rob Kelly:

agreed agree, I'm not, I'm not trying to put them on the same level, but at the same time, it's still the same cut same level of cover up same level of, of, oh, shit, we fucked up. Let's do everything we can to not make it look like we fucked up. But that this person fucked up or, or that you know what I mean? Hey, if I'm with you, it's crazy, man. It's crazy.

Michael Marcangelo:

So here's what this is what this latest revelation has made, has forced me to do, I've always said that innocent people don't settle and don't accept the punishment. And in the context of, of what evidence was actually submitted, and what evidence was actually brought into the argument. Brady was wrong. Both all the evidence wasn't brought in. What we just learned is that in the next year at once, once the data started to say, You know what, that ideal gas law that tour events had never heard of, and never even referenced, and said that he didn't actually factor in any science. Maybe that that's actually proving that the fact that the Patriots were not deflating footballs to beat the Colts 184 to 10. And that AFC title game.

Rob Kelly:

They really, I never understood not

Michael Marcangelo:

only did they bury it, but just remember, and this is the last thing I'm gonna say about this, because this is a Super Bowl show. It's not a patriot show. Tom Brady served a four game suspension based on the wells report. And the fact that quote, it was more probable than not, that Brady was, quote, at least generally aware that the air had been released. And they knew for a moral certainty, that that wasn't true. And it's no coincidence, again, that this revelation comes out the week that Tom Brady retires because if he was still in league, I Guaran damn tee at the NFL would not have allowed Florida to publish his book. The thought that I'd say about that. So, you know, for all those people, you hate us because you ain't us. Again. Spygate was real. I admit that they weren't the only team doing it doesn't make it right. The flake gay is the epitome of bullshit. And it's the epitome of pettiness where you have people who despise Bill Belichick because he knows the rules better than the Rules Committee. And he exposes loopholes in them. And they act they act as if that is he that's a defiant act. So they punished him when they could. And they, they could have tarnished, or they tried to tarnish the greatest, as you said, the greatest football player in NFL history. And it's

Rob Kelly:

not as it's a fact for Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback, greatest football player to ever play the game. And it's, it's crazy man, it still blows my mind that that like I was saying before that this is the organization that that runs. That that runs the sports world that not only runs a sports food, but runs the news world, you know what I mean? Like it's, it's so much bigger than just sports, the NFL, and the fact that this is their PR, and this is how they operate. And these are the things that they do. Just It blows my mind each and every time. I guess it shouldn't anymore, though, right? Is this just who they are? So I mean, you know what, we don't go too much into the news, because the only thing I really wanted to talk about was what we talked about on the discord earlier. And that's Kyler Murray moving all Cardinals affiliation from his Instagram page. I want to know if it's a big deal. Listen, I put a trade out there. I think it's juicy. It is is Kyler on his way. Oh, what's going on? Are we bought to see Aaron Rodgers. And

Michael Marcangelo:

when a perfect a green? What a perfect time to freeze because you should never utter that that morons name out of your mouth. I mean, Aaron, just out. I think what's more interesting, is not the fact that he deleted all links to the Cardinals, but when he posts the picture was with Mike Evans. Right. I mean, there seems to be a vacancy at quarterback in Tampa Bay. So Kyler to Tampa. Now that intrigues me. That would be that would be something I mean, I mean, I think that that instantly makes them again, the best team that division because that division is crap. Now, the saints, the best thing that they had was there, coach, he's gone. The next day. He's the next head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. So if you get somebody like if you get somebody like Kyler Murray and they're amazing. I think not not to let all the all the air out of the balloon here of the room. I think that his contract is coming up. And he just wants more money by his rookie deals get his rookie deal set to expire. So he's playing hardball. Social media

Rob Kelly:

hooray. Last juicy though. Yeah, less juicy. I mean, that's really all I got all I got man. I mean Rayshawn and DK really hit the nail on the head about the floor as thing last week, so I don't think we need to go too much into that. Except that the NFL is fucking stupid without merit without merit. Get the hell out of here without merit. And that's really all I got. Man. I can't wait for the Super Bowl. I really can't. The fact that we're seeing the Cincinnati Bengals in the Super Bowl. Before the Dallas Cowboys does kind of kill me a little bit inside each time I hear about it. So in fact for everyone Joe burrow was not alive. Last time the Cowboys won a Super Bowl. He has been born. started playing football, played college football. got drafted number one, and it has gotten to a Super Bowl. The for the Dallas Cowboys. Unreal.

Michael Marcangelo:

I would also say this, this game, you know, we always talk about the NFL, you know, parody, parody, parody parody. This is it. You have a team that has loaded up for one year versus a team that your future should be cemented as long as everybody stays healthy for the next 10. So you have a team that again, if they don't want it this year, they're probably done for the next five. And we're in the rams and the Bengals a team that maybe now this is where they're going to be for the next five to 10 years. You know, when it's all said done, this is exactly what you what you're looking for. As a patriot fan as Cowboy fan, but as you know, fans of teams that are not playing in February. This is this is the best case scenario because these are two teams that aren't always there. And it's going to be fun to watch. So, for the real BK Bob Kelly, for our executive producer Craig D'Alessandro. I am Michael Mark Angeles and thank you so much for listening to missing the point and we will talk to you later