Time To Fire Brad Stevens? Boogie Cousins to the Boston Celtics? Do You Trust The Boston Bruins?

Craig D'Alessandro: 0:24

This episode of missing the point is being brought to you by box Oh crafts, save 15% off your first holiday box at checkout with the promo code MTP. That's box o crafts.com. On this episode missing the point rayshawn is back with a vengeance as he railed against the Boston Celtics as he stumbled further and further into mediocrity and weather changes. The head coaching position is the ultimate solution for the Celtics woes. We'll also discuss a certain recently released NBA player can bring some much needed attitude to a young, talented Celtics squad now featuring two NBA all stars. We'll also touch on the thriving Boston Bruins. And if even one of the league's best record that can still be trusted when it comes to playoff time. This is missing the point, Episode 41. But it's all relative.

Joe Malkin: 1:24

Hello, and welcome into this week's episode of missing the point. My name is Joe Malkin. I am your host. And I'm joined tonight by the man who has we didn't even know where he was. He just disappeared and then told us he came back. He spent a little time away. And maybe he'll talk about it. Maybe he won't. But rayshawn Buchanan, welcome back. And Mike Mark Angelo is also here with us and of course we have our EP a Craig D'Alessandro. So guys, welcome to this week's episode of missing the point we have a lot to touch on last week, the guy is talking about the Celtics. Unfortunately, rayshawn was unable to be there. So we're gonna give him his due tonight. We'll also touch on the Bruins. But there's been some an interesting move in the NBA that we also want to get to that I think Mike is very interested in getting to So guys, let's kick it off here and start talking about these Boston Celtics. They're 15 and 15 coming into tonight's game we're recording on Tuesday night and they are currently leading the Dallas Mavericks 5655 at the half as we be begin recording this episode. So guys, 15 and 15. And they seem to have a tough time getting up for games. And let's start there. What has been the problem here for this team so far?

Michael Marcangelo: 2:42

Yeah, for me, it's I think we talked about it a little bit last week, it's a matter of it doesn't feel like they believe in their coach. They don't listen to him. They don't believe in it and what he's preaching. And that's on them a little bit. But in reality, like if you lose the room that's on you, right, like, so Brad Stevens has to figure it out, has to figure out how to get these guys going. And then when he gets them going for the love of God, can you just hold on to a fourth quarter lead or 30 games into the season? And I am so sick of being up by 18 2020 for the fourth and losing it like if you can't do that. And if you do that more than once, or like once or twice fine. But then 30 games, if you do that five times, that's indicative of the fact that you are a bad basketball team. But are you just not a good one? I'll say that maybe they're not bad. But they're not good. They're not championship level. So for me, I think it starts and ends with Brad and like he needs to figure it out. He hasn't figured it out yet.

Joe Malkin: 3:44

I guess we'll we'll see if he does. Ray, you've had some very strong words for the Celtics head coach stronger than gee willikers over there, the garden would give himself but what do you think of Brad Stevens performance this season?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 3:59

Well, I have to preface this by saying I used to be a supporter. Right? You know, I was someone that was like, Man, you know, Brad is doing a great job. And especially with those teams that really overachieved his first three or four years, and then all of a sudden, you know, they've got some type of prosperity I've had, you know, had some real expectations, and he's failed. He is someone that is a good coach, and that's why I'm pissed off. I'm not pissed off that he's a bad coach. I'm pissed off because you're actually you're actually a good coach. And you can't get these guys over the hump. And it's been like that since really since the 2017 2018. year you have not one but two All Stars now, right? Really three of you can't come but yes, he's an all star this year. But he's been an all star for four years in his career. So you have three guys that have been all stars, three guys that can get you 20 or more game, and I saw him at this moment. And you know, Mike wants to put it just on Brad and I get that and trust me this. I mean, I would say 90% of subtext Twitter Celtics fans are putting it on Brad. I think it's the easy take to make. We got an aim dish at Danny Ainge, I'm sorry, like, you can I don't understand how you could come into this year thinking okay, well, we lost Hayward and, you know, really haven't found a replacement for Horford. We didn't find a replacement for Kyrie I mean, I mean, technically, you know, kemba coming in was that but you know, you have you have so many guys on this roster that you really haven't found a replacement for. So, at what point do we turn to turn to you know, the pitchfork crew back to to Danny Ainge, because You're telling me that you thought you were going to win with Carson Edwards shamar waters you know taco fall, who and I'm sorry DK Can you organize you want him as a mascot man To hell with the mascot chair for me chair on the couch, do like new chair on the couch, I don't need taco fall, taking up, you know a roster spot and has asked us to get a quarter Lister in a blowout or they're getting blown out. So I'm not here for that. Danny is used to reconstruct his roster, not next year, today. So that's where I'm at. But I say bride does need to get it together. But I also put a lot of blame on Danny Ainge, as well,

Joe Malkin: 5:58

let me put this out there in the ether for both of you. And we've talked about this in the past and and it's almost as if there's a power to me, it's almost as if there's a power struggle, without there being a power struggle. And what I mean by that is, when Brad Stevens was brought in to be the head coach of the Boston Celtics in 2013. To me, the idea was, we're gonna build from the bottom, build with the youth and develop players like he did at Butler. Right. That's the kind of coach everyone saw him as. And then there's Danny Ainge, who, for the 10 years prior to Brad Stevens coming in as the head coach, he was going out and getting the re Allen's the Kevin Garnett 's of the world. Right. So when you mentioned al Horford when you mentioned Kyrie Irving and Gordon Hayward, what's interesting is, I would say of those three guys, the one that worked the best was al Horford. And he's also the probably on that list. He's number three in terms of overall talent to me, not this is definitely not definitive at all. And and in terms of how big his name is, he's number three on that list. They thought that Gordon Hayward would work because he was Brad's guy at Butler and they wanted to bring in a guy like Kyrie who we've seen the lasting effects of Kyrie I. Mike has said this before, we've seen the lasting effects of Kyrie with Jalen Brown, and really with just about anybody that was here during that Kyrie Irving time. So I think there's a power struggle between the two guys at the top, the head coach and the general manager, where they're trying to make two styles of team building and basketball on the floor work. And it just isn't

Michael Marcangelo: 7:50

you? Yeah, I think. So. I think what like when you look at the totality of what he has done, let's say like since since Doc, right, I think he hit on al Horford, and he needed to because that was that was your first max guy in a long time that's ever come here. But he also hit on it like he, he has done pretty well. supplementally throughout this right. I don't blame him for Hayward at all. Because you just can't forecast. That first game, that freak injury. Ray knows a little bit about something like that. And you don't know what that's gonna do to you long term. Right. So, Kyrie I think, you know, 10 times out of 10. If you have the chance to sign him, you do it. And you just figure out if it's gonna work. It didn't. I mean, and I think that, you know, what we're seeing now is, you know, Jalen and Jason like, this is their team. But they still need a ringleader, I think, really, any two young, amazing players do like Jordan didn't win his first until his sixth or seventh year, right or six year with Scottie. LeBron didn't win till his ninth year. So like, I think we in Boston, because of the success of other teams, put the Celtics on this trajectory, like they admitted to the Eastern Conference Finals, that they should get there. And yes, they should get to the finals at the regular finals, for sure. But I'm not expecting a championship by them this year. I just want them to actually contend and to show me that they've learned from the past, meaning if you're up and a seven game series against the Miami Heat in the fourth quarter, every single game, you better win that goddamn series. That's all I want from this team.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 9:29

It's not about the path they've taken the last few years is that is 17 time world champion. This is expected in the city for that franchise to win. We have been to New York Yankees of the NBA is that simple. So that's why people expected

Michael Marcangelo: 9:42

not recently do like back when they were back.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 9:45

Even with the Yankees, bro. Like, yes, they did at 27 time world champions, right? 18 of those came before 1962 no one was around with Whitey Ford and Yogi Berra and Joe DiMaggio. And those guys like, once again 10 minutes in I'm already going to read the whole but what we're not I'm not gonna get into that. But you know, looking at Joe right now, but no, but it's just like no, like, there is an expectation for them to win. Whether you thought What do you think they're gonna win? It's a whole nother story, but it's an expectation for them to win. And, you know, I want to go back to something that Joe just said a few minutes ago. He was saying about Kyrie leaving a lasting effect. Well, the only people that have left from that Those two years are Rob Williams. Jason Tatum and Jalen brown mark. So on market smart, right? Sorry, my bad. So he's a longer tenure subject My bad. So it's just like, are we so are we saying to get rid of them then because it's the last thing effect. And he's done. You know, he left us. He's been gone for two years. He's been gone. Since I like it's all he's told. He's been off for two years. So at what point do you get over it?

Joe Malkin: 10:49

To clarify what I said? It's not a bad thing, Kyrie has, has had good effects on teammates in the past, and sometimes his negative antics leave positive effects. But he was here when those two when two of those guys to those four guys who just named were rookies, they were rookies that year that they played in the NBA with Kyrie and that is going that kind of a player that kind of transcendent human being, because regardless of how I feel about them, what I think about them, that is what he is, he's outspoken, he's a great basketball player, he's a really interesting human being, that is going to leave a lasting effect. So no, I'm not saying get rid of those guys, though. A lot of teams would like to have those guys, but to but you, you are absolutely right, that Danny needs to build this team. But again, I think Danny and Brad need to get on the same page, or we need to go down Mike's rabbit hole of if that's not going to happen, without a doubt change the head coach over the GM in this situation, generally, I go towards the GM. In this situation, I would go towards the coach. But then I would ask Mike, who? Who comes in if you want to if you want to done midseason who comes in? And if not, who comes in at the end of the year?

Michael Marcangelo: 12:18

Yeah, I think that's a very interesting question. I'm gonna answer it. But I first just want to go back to your point about the lingering effect of Kyrie because I think that they're like when you say that people instantly think it's negative, right? I think if you look at his Celtics tenure, it was not great. But what those two can learn is a that is how you command a room and a team, but I want to be like him and have that cloud. Perfect. And I think when they brought him in, that's when the incident there is an instantaneous shift from shift from this team being underdogs to actual contenders and you want to keep that going. Right. So for so I think you can learn a lot from him. I think that when it's all said and done, Kyrie being here will probably end up being better for the Celtics, and then it would be bad. But as far as a coach, I mean, names I don't know. Right. But we've thrown at Bobby said this a lot on the show. And I think he's right. Brad Stevens feels like the mark Jackson, before Steve Kerr. Right now, if the Celtics can get to the level of winning a championship? Sure, maybe Brad can break through that ceiling. But for me, I said this, you know, a few weeks ago, I'm now starting to think that because Tatum and brown have not had a coach, like Doc Rivers who's used to coaching all star players, right? Maybe it's hindered them. I think Brad is the perfect guy to develop and nurture. But now what we see and what Rana had been going at each other for like the last eight months, he doesn't really know he doesn't really know how to handle stars. So you need someone that knows how to do that. I think if this is what we're gonna see from the Celtics at the end of the season, 36 and 36 are like 40 and 32. We have a problem, right? Because the talent level on this team, just in your starting five, should give you 45 wins for like, just, you should be able to just write that down No matter what, that's your floor. If you can't hit that it's coaching. And for me, if Danny Ainge is to blame for this season, but Brad Stevens could take a team that had it that had Kelly olynyk to the playoffs. Like you can't have both ways, you know, I mean,

Rayshawn Buchanan: 14:33

no, so I think, honestly, and I'll give a name, right, just, you know, content purposes, you know, can't have enough of that. But I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Sam Casal, you know, he played in the NBA 14 years, he was on the Celtics team. So he's played in the city, you know, he, you know, he hit some big shots, and, you know, for that team and overweight, so, I think he's someone that's paid his dues as an assistant, you know, he's been on the dock. He's been new. It's Hi, Lou. And you know, is he a little bit of a loud mouth, and we're getting some people's faces? Sure. But that's what you need at this moment. And once again, he won three times. He's been in the NBA forever. And, you know, he knows how to win. And I firmly believe that, you know, he's someone that's not afraid of the moment. You know, he wasn't afraid of that moment as a player. And you know, I think that would get by and right away. Danny knows who he is. You know, and he won't talk to us. like I did on the show, shouldn't be so that's just how it is. So I think that's me because I was someone that could come in and do a great job and replace Brad Stevens, if we're going to attach the name to it, but once again, most of the firebrand get rid of someone. So if you don't have a viable option, I get it. We know, you know, dicks assholes. It's not your job. We get it. I understand that. But if you were having a conversation, you don't know who to put somebody you don't know who to put in there to stop bringing this up, let it go.

Joe Malkin: 15:53

Well, that's the problem we have in so many sports right when patriots fans and we've heard it, whether it's on radio media or social media in this town is few and far between. But people are calling for Bill Belen checks job site, who do you want? So it's kind of the same thing with Brad Stevens to me, because Mike just said it. We've always said it that we've been very consistent about that on the show. Brad Stevens is a good coach. We like Brad Stevens. Brad Stevens is a good developer of talent. Good. He is a he's not necessarily a player's coach, though. Not necessarily in the NBA. In college, he might be. But I think Mike and I don't want to put words in your mouth. So I think I'm gonna I'm gonna ask the question. instead. Have Jason Tatum and Jalen brown outgrown Brad Stevens?

Michael Marcangelo: 16:42

If this is what we're seeing if the Celtics are truly this team that we're seeing this year and what we saw in the Eastern Conference Finals of last year, then yeah, I think it's over and I think that you know, kudos to Brad he did something that that other coaches didn't really want to do. Like we had a Hall of Fame coach here Doug rivers are not gonna be part of rebuild right. I held that against him for a long time. still kind of do I think Brad was the right guy for that moment. What I'm what I'm learning now is and then just based off a you know, scoreboard is that he's not the right guy for this moment. So we need someone in here that is not afraid to get in Jason Tatum. Yeah, Jason Tatum his face Jalen Browns face Marcus smart to calm him down to scold him. After yelling at a referee after the Payton Pritchard hits a game winning layup right. Like do you need to keep the team intact? You need a guy that is able to do that. So a guy like Sam Cosell, I think a guy you know, even again, I don't know what Mark Jackson is doing. What's he doing? No, no, I Oh,

Rayshawn Buchanan: 17:41

Sam can show it that Sam Sam can sell on me granted, he just saw what la but I would have taken tyloo Honestly, I don't think of him. You know, I'm saying that to him. I think that if you if you can sit there and spar with LeBron and Zara Smith and Kyrie and the same damn locker room, this will be a breeze.

Joe Malkin: 17:57

Well, that's why I like Sam Cosell because he was around. So many of those guys. You said, Ray, he was never the star. But everybody knows who Sam Cosell is. And he was always that guy that wasn't afraid to not only defend a teammate, but also get in the face of an opposing player, but get in the face of a teammate as well. I mean, he did what he had to do in order to keep things in line. And sometimes it would be nice to see Brad get angry, and he doesn't. And that's I don't know if people from Indiana just don't get angry. I don't know too many. But you know what, I think where we're at right now is let's see if they can turn this around with 41 and a half games remaining. But if they can't, and they they go to the same spot. And Ray gets very frustrated when we talk about the Eastern Conference Finals. It's almost like the you know, George Carlin talked about the seven dirty words. That's like Ray's eighth dirty word is Eastern Conference Finals. So let's see what happens.

Michael Marcangelo: 18:59

You know, for me personally, it sucks to be having this conversation, right? Because we saw Brad develop the amount of talent that he has so far. And for it to end if it does end like this. We're you were in the Eastern Conference Finals last year, you were a perennial playoff team the last three or four years now. We'll say 45% of the way into the season. You're one game out of playoff contention. You are one and a half games ahead of the Miami Heat. That's where you are and they're intense. Right so but you just can't do this. So if he turns it around, I think that speaks volumes. Listen If they somehow finished this season, again, quick math here 48 and 24 that's a huge win. Like that's that means that he can take control of the room after starting 15 and 15 and write the ship but if you can't It's time for him to go like love you mean it thank you for all that you did. But now we need someone who can actually corral the talent here.

Joe Malkin: 19:55

Yeah, and it wouldn't be a red mark on on the history of the Boston Celtics right like for Brett for that sure. Without a doubt and Brad Stevens will go on to maybe he'll work in another city as an NBA coach or he's gonna go back and get a very he'll and again, we're talking about it like he's out the door. He's not clearly and we we don't necessarily want him out the door as a collective but he if he does go, he will go on to find a very high profile job at the college ranks and he'll be very good

Michael Marcangelo: 20:25

One thing before you go, Ray, I'm just saying it right now, I hope read. I hope they turn it around. I hope he's our coach for a long time. But if he doesn't, and if he is fired, if Houston does not give him all the money that he wants to develop all their young talents is gonna be coming in over the next five years. I don't know what they're doing, because he's proved that he can do it. They have 19 draft picks in the next four years. Right, Brad? So you got to get you to print your playoff team and you bring someone else in good, right.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 20:49

Yeah, no, that's perfectly said. I think that we want him to do well, but I mean, I was I was laughing that you said that comment about the fourth, you know, the 4824 khademi they would have to go 3039 that's that's definitely not happening. Well, I mean, that that's talking about a pipe dream, right. But you know, you know, but a brother can dream not mean, but I just think that this is just I think this is the worst record they've had since the 2014 2014 season. You know, who got here That same year, I Zan, Thomas like it was just you know, it was slow deal in February they made they sound a little late first round pick to Phoenix brought over it. And instantly, that team caught fire. So you know what, Danny, maybe that's what you have to do. It doesn't have to be a major deal. But you bring in someone like a Terrence Ross. So you bring in someone or you bring in someone that did that did that's going to score like how it scored, and you just take off. Obviously health is always the number one thing so I'm guessing we're not talking about we get that health is always the number one thing, but just making this a little minor tweak, where you don't have to, you know, include trauma waters, or include cars and numbers and big time games. As much as I love Carson Edwards. And I love what he did in Purdue. I thought he was going to be you know, a player. Those guys are not NBA ready the NBA players, they should be up in Maine, but old Orchard Beach eating some crabs, you know, because I would love to join them. I'll get on the down Eastern fall and follow them up at Orchard Beach. But they do not need to be on the parquet floor on Causeway street at the TD Garden. It just should not happen. Sorry,

Joe Malkin: 22:20

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Rayshawn Buchanan: 22:25

Yes, exact friend of the

Joe Malkin: 22:26

show. So you talk about that they you know what's going to help them turn around. So Ray, you just mentioned an offensive help. But what about a defensive help because today the Houston Rockets released Boogie cousins, and they are still going to have to pay him $2.3 million as part of his guaranteed deal. But with that said, that's a big man who we know Brad isn't necessarily one to go after. But if he's getting $2.3 million already from the rockets, you would probably have to pay him pennies on the dollar to come here. So Mike, tell me why Danny Ainge should have been on the phone with the Marcus cousins agent five minutes after he was released.

Michael Marcangelo: 23:11

Yeah, I think it makes sense for me to go first year that way Ray can tell me all the reasons why I was wrong because he's a basketball aficionado. But for me, like the problem with the Celtics, for me is not scoring, they can score, right, they just can't stop anyone when it matters. So what that tells me is now if that is an indictment on the fact that the coach does not believe in big men, again, sorry, Bradley need to go. But if you can get bogie for 2 million, right, because he's already Oh, 2.3 this year. And he has something to prove me he did not play last year because of his ACL. So he still needs to prove that he is a versatile and viable big man in the NBA. So get him in here. And then again, in the fourth quarter, if you have a lead, you can put DeMarcus Cousins, and Tristan Thompson or Robin Williams on the floor the exact same time, eliminate any notion of scoring in the paint, and maybe win some of these games, you're up by 18 to 20 points. So that's why I would advocate for bogey.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 24:10

So I agree about bringing DeMarcus Cousins, but not for the same reason. Right. So he's not a defender. He's not not now anyways, not not without the Achilles injury. So I felt like we're like two years too late. I felt like the 2018 2019 year after he got released from New Orleans as when they should have jumped out there could he still has some good games in that season, but then you know, kind of got hurt again. So that that was the pressing issue. But if he's coming here, you're getting a 610 marker smart and I'm not talking from a defensive standpoint. I mean, you need something that's going to be nasty, right and I've talked about that on the show before and you some of the Marcus cousins is nasty, and he's going to be something as I look, you come down the lane. I'm gonna give you a little excuse me elbow. Hey, brother, you gonna think twice about coming down here again, if I'm knocking on your eyes type thing. That's what they need. So it's not so he's not gonna be a passion you want type defender. He's not gonna be a rock

Joe Malkin: 25:02

don't need that. Just need somebody that can get underneath and preserve a 20 point lead.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 25:07

Right? Right. No, right. But I'm saying you just need someone that's nasty. No down there.

Michael Marcangelo: 25:10

Yeah, what they need is a guy that's gonna make you think twice about driving. Right and someone that has over the last four years is average nine defensive rebounds a game. That's what you needed someone to get the board's naked thing twice and just play a little grittier. crunch time. And I think, for me, and all goes back to that second game against the Atlanta Hawks last week, right? When, when, when Daniel ties and Robert Williams and even like Tristan Thompson, they all had phenomenal games because the game plan was it felt like it was around the bigs. And it worked. Right. So they were still up, Tony for the fourth, they won the game by 11. The two nights later, they buy 20 from the fourth and they lost in overtime, right? So focus make focus on bigs. And again, I love Daniel ties. I think I love Robert Williams ceiling. But like we know what Boogie cousins is. Right? And we know that people will think like to your point will think twice about driving to the hoop on him. So bring him in. And let's see what he can do. Again, if listen if he was owed no money, and he was expecting $6 million now, but to you call them, see what it will take.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 26:18

Yeah, even a couple years ago when he wanted five. I'm like, You're telling me We can't take a fire for $5 million. But you still have ended and have given you know, and his cancer the same deal. And I was like really but I'm like okay, but that's it. That's me was wild. But you know, because you know what he is right now that we had him a couple years ago and he actually played very well while he was here, or at least for a few games. Was that great Monroe, Greg Monroe, kind of guard apart car. But he was a phenomenal passer. So it was buggy. He was a great rebounder. So it was buggy. You know, he was someone that that the guys loved Tatum and brown those guys loved it loved gray Monroe so and you know, boogies been a great teammate his whole career from what I've heard. So you know, why not make it happen?

Joe Malkin: 26:57

So the Celtics sit in sixth place in the Eastern Conference at 15 and 15. Half a game behind the Toronto Raptors and half a game ahead of the New York Knicks, which is sad because Numerix are not a good basketball team. You know what, you know, it's more than actually,

Unknown: 27:15

I think that New York Knicks are a better basketball team that we give them credit for and the Celtics are playing like a worst basketball team that we

Joe Malkin: 27:20

expected. Well, they're definitely worse than we expected to this point, because I think even the Eastern Conference team had them in fourth finishing. I think we all kind of agreed that three four spot was going to be where this team finished. And right now, surprisingly, the 70 sixers are still up there in first and then not that big of a surprise, followed by Brooklyn, Milwaukee in Indiana and Toronto, and then Boston. So they definitely have some work to do to get to that spot that we expect them to be in because I have when if the playoffs started today, they would be playing Milwaukee in the first round of the playoffs.

Michael Marcangelo: 27:56

Yeah, that they're playing like they're playing right now that, like that series would be over and five, I think. Because, yeah, that's an indictment on the Celtics. I don't think I don't think Milwaukee is great. I think the southeast would be up by 12 points in every fourth quarter and fucking blow it. That's what I think.

Joe Malkin: 28:13

Yeah, I mean, Ray, don't don't green team. And honestly, let's be

Rayshawn Buchanan: 28:17

upset. No, no, no, if you were said against Philly, or Brooklyn Webb in the first round, I didn't like Yeah, right. But I just my thing is, this is the same team. There's still been a walk earlier in the year like I just I don't think I don't like I don't think the walk is that good. So I guess that team, we'd actually have a shot but the Brooklyn the Phillies, actually, we actually we talked about this earlier, because you might get stuck me on this. Hell if Indiana faced us right now Indiana would be there. Yeah, that's true, I firmly believe but the walking note is they literally as young as I guess, five. That's literally what

Michael Marcangelo: 28:48

I think Chris Middleton and Yanis right now are I think in middle St. Louis can do what you said he needed to do. If you can put up 29 or 25 points tonight, then it's a problem. Because then there's 55 points coming from two people and you don't know what else to do. Milk has been pretty good this year. So but I think before we can kind of say you're going to transition Joe, before we transition, can we maybe just say that Marcus smarts role in this team is actually I think it's that important because this thing that's been happening, he's been out, right? They don't have that true, gritty guy, that true nasty guy that will go in and fight for you. Every single play. So I think if I was Marcus like you never want your team to lose, but this is just proving how important he is to this team. And you can't measure how important to have a guy like that on the court is just real quick.

Joe Malkin: 29:37

This is what I talked about what I talked about the difference in philosophy between Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens, I feel like Danny Ainge is more of a, an aggressive, he was an aggressive player, so he's an aggressive GM, for the most part. I mean, he flees his teams all the time. And then you have Brad, who, to me seems passive, in a lot of ways. So you have players playing that style that the coach wants him to, but naturally, they're just not that kind of guy. So I just see it as like an oil and water situation where everything looks okay on the surface. But if you really look close, you can see that there's some kind of a split, whether it's in the locker room or even on the floor, and I'm not crying wolf or hitting the panic button here, but it's, it just seems like there's philosophical differences. And that's okay. Because I don't think anybody's really upset with anybody on one side or the other. I mean that that's coming from me who's not the biggest basketball guy. I shouldn't admit that. So just kidding. Yeah, I just think there's a there's a philosophical rift between the the players, the GM and the head coach that needs to be rectified. They're four and six and their last 10. But however today, I mean, let's talk about these two guys before we transition on. Okay, so Tatum and brown are all stars. They were so bad. Oh, God.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 30:56

That's so bad. Oh, I'm having a breakdown right now to use this data. Okay, whatever

Joe Malkin: 31:00

breakdown. Let's talk about let's talk about the All Stars. Let's talk about Jason Tatum and Jalen brown and how they were named all stars on Tuesday. And we'll be playing in that all star game. Tatum just missed being a starter for the east. Correct. Real quick, we should talk about this all star game. And I'm gonna throw this out. Because Am I the only one that thinks this entire situation is silly to bring the best players in the NBA to Atlanta, in the middle of a pandemic, when we've already had other issues. And that is also one of the biggest party towns in the country. And these guys self admittedly like to party too. Am I the only one that sees an issue with this?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 31:40

Yeah, I mean, I'm smiling, because I know like, Listen, I would be upset too. If I couldn't go to Magic City and get some wings. I understand. I totally understand. I get it. I totally get it. You know, I'm saying so I haven't been to Atlanta in a while. But I totally understand. So. But I mean, no, it's not dumb. Like I said, you know, LeBron has spoke against it. He honestly spoke against it. Honestly, I think Tatum is not really too hot on YouTube. But you know, he's still he still at the stage of his career was like, it's still cool to be an all star and still make that team. So you know, and the same thing, you know, gentlemen, brows coming back to his hometown. So I'm pretty sure this is really an honor for him, you know, so. And from what I heard, I think I heard catching Percocet. I don't know, it was on NBC broadcast on on a whole other network. But he had mentioned that they basically the players again, flowing in the night before, right? So the game phone the night before. They'll be in a hotel room, whatever festivities. And then, you know, they'll have the game Sunday, and then they'll be right back to their teams afterwards. So it's similar to trying to mitigate some things. But once again, that's what the players really matter. They're not there. They're not matter. But I started playing the game. They met about, you're telling me to bring in you're telling me that we're coming to Ed, we're coming to Atlanta, Georgia. And we can't be here for three or four days getting lit, getting drunk. Get some chicken and waffles against, you know, we can't do that. I can't go see I don't entertainment. Unless there's all my phone. This is a problem, like so that's what they're really upset about. No, I mean, definitely not. But I'm just saying like, you know, No, definitely not. But I understand. That's what they really upset about us like, man, like, we can't do X, Y and Z. So they just want to be restrict. I don't have the idea.

Joe Malkin: 33:19

I don't know. I don't know if lebrons. upset about being restricted. I mean, lebrons a family man. Now he's upset about doing it in the middle of a pandemic. And it's actually one of the I mean, LeBron is LeBron. I mean, he's one of the greatest of all time, you know, say what you want about LeBron positively or negatively. I kind of feel like, I feel the same way about LeBron, as I do about Tom Brady not to open that Pandora's box right now. Oh, but I know, but I do. I do. I just think there's he needs to concentrate on what he's doing.

Michael Marcangelo: 33:55

And he got when LeBron James built and funded a school. You're

Joe Malkin: 33:58

absolutely right. You're wondering, oh, you're 100%. Right. But what I'm saying is that I to get back to the point I agree with LeBron James on this when he comes out and says that he has concerns about playing this all star game. He said he has concerns about actually doing the process. So some guys may have a problem with not staying there for three, three or four days. But man, they your you got to be responsible in a situation like this. So put, you put your whole team and the entire league in question. If you give these guys the ability to go out and do what they want, and that's not an indictment on those guys, because listen, I will do the same thing. Right. But that's just

Michael Marcangelo: 34:42

yeah, I think it's just misguided to have an all star game during during a pandemic like that, like that's just, it's just it, like you have to condense your season, but you're still gonna include an all star game that doesn't make any sense to me. And I think for the players, they feel the same way. But for the fact of the matter. There is going to be one you have two players on your team Jason Tatum, averaging 26 points. Jalen brown averaging 25 and a half points per game. You have a tandem like that, that's putting up 51 points per game on average. It's where we you know, I think if you go back to that broken trade, right that Danny made in giveaway, you know, Paul and kgn got all those picks. Now, you have This is what you have. And I think like, it's that the trading that being a win for both teams, but kudos to Jason and Jalen, I think I have a negative thought about the all star game because of what happened last year. And kemba. I think he was never the same after that game. Like he played that game hurt. And we know it, everyone knows it. And then he was just out and gone. And and really hasn't been the same Canvas center. There have been flashes here. But, you know, I think it's great for them to be recognized as the best, you know, in their field. But for me, like, this isn't, this isn't a time to have an all star game in reality would be really cool. If they were like, yeah, like, we're not gonna go, we're gonna stay and like, actually listen to Brad Stevens for the next two weeks and learn how to play basketball

Joe Malkin: 36:07

his way? Well, they'd give the guys five days off. And that was one thing about is that they can take five days off and not have to be at the facility. So in, in theory, well, but in theory, you're absolutely right, Mike, but I mean, you know, they,

Rayshawn Buchanan: 36:23

I actually have a theory though. So just for this season could obviously, you know, hopefully, you know, things are closer to normal, going into the 2122 season. But you know, only because if you know if Adam Silver and the rest of the NBA officials have said, Hey, you know, we promised you guys that we weren't going to have an all star game, you know, and Mr. pandemic, you know, but then once again, players have to come back to your players. You guys agree to this because you knew there was more money involved. Don't play them don't play the martyr role and cut my hair like man, you know, superior dumbbell shouldn't be I know, you're mad about not getting wings, as you know, don't entertainment, that's what you're really mad about. You want to get paid. It's okay. That's fine to just admit that Be honest. But if I'm adding a silver if you want to say face, why not say you know, what, how about after the season, those that were considered an all star, why don't you come down to Atlanta after the season as a during the season or even after the finals? Right? You just come down, we'll do like a weekend event in Atlanta, at least go from there. Because who knows, maybe we'll be we'll have the vaccine. Maybe we have other southern players that want more protocols, and you do it like that for this year. But that's the only that's the only grab they should have. But once again, the players a man, chill out, get off the high horse, you want to get more money, which is fine. I understand that. So shout out to Chris Paul and Kyrie. And you know, Jalen Brown, those led the Players Association. Y'all wanted more money, you wanted more wings, you wanted more entertainment, I understand that.

Joe Malkin: 37:46

That's true. The Players Association ballgame, they did sign the contract for the all star game, we're gonna transition now away from the Boston Celtics, we're going to stay in the same building. Now we're going to pick the floor up, we're going to turn the temperature down. And we're going to talk about the Boston Bruins, who just played a game out in Lake Tahoe, but as Mike mentioned, not on an actual Lake, just on the fairway of the 18th hole, the golf course. But the Boston Bruins are 11 to 11, three and two in the Atlantic Division. Division, we thought was going to be harder, I didn't expect them to be 11, three and 224 points first in the Atlantic Division. They're seven, two and one in their last 10. And as I mentioned to Mike before the show, and he was like, Oh yeah, they're pretty good. They're 11 Three, two, so well, that means they're actually really 11 and five, but 11 and five is still good. That can win your division in the NFL. Right. So Mike, I'm gonna let you lead it off with your thoughts on the Bruins here because they are having a good season overall.

Michael Marcangelo: 38:42

This is really tough for me, right? Because you're sitting here and 11 three and two. And before the season started, we saw like how the play was gonna be broken down. And we all said like, this is gonna be really tough year. So far. They're doing great. Too good playing out of his mind. We have, you know, passion and everyone's doing their job. Like in that respect. You have Martians in the team with 20 points, Birger on 19 points, parsnip like, that's what you want to see 16 you know, or nine goals for Marsh and seven for version on nine for passionate. That's great. Two cars playing really well. So kudos to them. But we want to presidents trophy or would have won it last year. Right? We also we Yeah, we also won that I believe in 2014 or a couple years ago and what happened? The real to grasp showed up in the playoffs. So for me it's hard. But it's not like we're kind of like this line right there. They're just doing all the right things or seven to one in the last 10 or plus 15 point differential between them and everybody else. But I just know I have this feeling in my gut that tells me that come playoff time to get is going to have cramps partially going to go do handstands in the north end and or punch a wall and take himself out of it and not be where he needs to be or be the player that needs to be so great. They're going to have a great regular season. Honestly, I said this before in the chat. I'll say it again now so you guys can all hold me against it. I don't care if they go. Let's see they're playing 156 games this year, right? But I don't care if they go 51 three and two.

Joe Malkin: 40:25

I still wouldn't buy them to win the Stanley Cup because who their goaltender is she's Mike, you're so negative, but I agree. I agree because you know, tuk tuk is played out of his mind HELOC is played out of his mind. I mean, you look at 287, two and one on the season we are a HELOC is for one and one. They went out. They were having a blast that, you know, it looks like they're clicking as a team. They went out they went out to the west coast, they show up in their 90s garb and they got the mullets going, and they're having a good time. It was patricius idea. And they're really vibing right now as a squad, right? So the chemistry is good. Everybody's playing well, things are moving in the right direction. And it's but it's interesting watching these games, which has been tough, because while I do love YouTube TV, not a sponsor, they and nessun could not agree on a contract. So the day that I switched to YouTube TV, they dropped in essence. So I mean, if this if anybody from YouTube TV or NASA is listening, I would really love to be able to watch all the games again. But following along with the season, it's been interesting to watch because they're above average, not great, is really where I see this team defensively. They're having a tough time. The right wing is not always strong. They've been bit with the injury bug the last couple games, but they've they've made it work. Granted, they have had no COVID issues of their own. They have played or been scheduled to play two teams, including buffalo where they had two games postponed because buffalo had COVID issues. So they've had a couple of bumps in the road on that standpoint. But Mike, I can't totally disagree. I think the better barometer for a season like this season is that 2014 presidents Cup trophy win. And the only reason is last year was such a weird year. And I think we've seen whether it's been professional athletes, our own personal lives within our jobs. We've seen interesting. We've seen people with interesting mentalities and make interesting decisions and just do things that aren't necessarily in character because we're dealing with such an unprecedented time in our lives. That it I don't know if we can use last season as a good barometer. But when tuca effectively abandon the team, and maybe we don't know the reason, and it probably was a good reason, because now he's playing out of his mind, and everybody seemed to have taken him back in. So I think there's a whole hell of a lot to the story that we don't know. But you're still right, because he still crumbles under pressure of the playoffs. And I don't think this team is good enough from top to bottom to go ahead. So while you talk about the some of the off ice stuff getting in the way and then to his performances in the playoffs, I think the on ice team themselves doesn't necessarily have what it takes. And I hope that Bruce Cassidy isn't the issue and we're having a Brad Stevens conversation about the Bruins in 2021 22 but can't disagree, but right now, they're playing so well. And they need to keep that up. And honestly, I think this trip outside of the Eastern Time Zone was great for them.

Unknown: 43:42

Yeah, I think Listen, it's hard to say what I just said and it not diminished like what they've done so far. And I'm not trying to do that. No,

Joe Malkin: 43:49

I'm I wasn't trying to say that you weren't No, no,

Michael Marcangelo: 43:52

I know. But I'm like hearing it back. I'm like, well, you just kind of you just kind of felt like an asshole but in reality, like, like to harass gives 298 298 wins 160 losses in regular season. It's pretty good, right? Like that's really good in the playoffs. He's 51 and 42. So something happens something And that's not all his fault at all. I'm not saying that I don't I blame I think I said it last you know, last year but on the show, too good makes all the hard saves like easy and doesn't make any of the easy saves. That's just a fact it doesn't the most of the playoffs. So for me like what you need to see out of this team, consistently and for me. I mean, maybe the listeners out there are different and they can be swayed. I need to see the first line, and I need to see players like Martian like Bergeron always shows up. I'll never ever take anything away from him. You play with a punctured lung or collapse lung. But I need you need to see Pasternak step up and playoffs. You need to see McEvoy stay healthy and step up in the playoffs. If those things happen, and Touka is still soft is shit. Fine. You can still make a deep run. But I fundamentally believe that to get will be the reason why they never want a cup. Again, what to get as a goaltender.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 45:06

Yeah, well, I'll chime in and add on to that. So guys are doing great analysis so far. To me. They're no different than the 20 1627 and 2017 Boston Red Sox right team that has talent team was gonna win a division. And then you know, when they get there, it's like, oh, they were proud. You can't pitch Chris sale you can't pitch. So now we're getting like said. So now those guys, you translate it to the posture notch. So I say berjon so is always showed up. But there's other guys that need to be key players that haven't always done it when this mattered most. So, you know, the first line has been what I said when we did our initial pre vote preview show that can be in the show notes. So you listen back to that the first line is still the best first line to me and all of hockey like I'm not swinging from that, when you have you know, you know, Marcia has been great. Virgil has been great, you know, posture has been great so far. You know, Nick Ritchie has been a pleasant surprise to the here. 13 points on the season six goals, seven assists, you know, so that's pretty cool to see, we do have a couple of defenseman that's in the minus, we'll be coming to plus and minus. So I don't know if that works the same way as it does in basketball, but if it does, it means your defenseman suck, but I do know one guy that went over in DC, but we're not gonna bring that back up this evening. Because I want to stay in a good mood. So I go to sleep. So we'll let that go. But at the same time that has that has to change. And once again, like Mike Mike said it Joe said it you know, Craig feels the same way too, even though he's and he's not speaking. He says, Listen to us. You can we no longer are satisfied with doing well in a regular season. It's the same thing you know, with the subject, like this city, once again, from 2001. So now if you want to say women of Rwanda with the most ball fans call it what you want, this was long before the 2001 error. So and once again, especially with the Bruins, because they've seen guys like Esposito, they've seen guys like Barbie, or they've seen guys, I tell you a variety we've seen guys like cam Neely, they've seen guys library work, who wish at 21 freaking years here. And as soon as as as a winner western Colorado up in the mountains, is as a Walmart Patrick wall, this is not something that we just woke up and said, well, they gotta win, they got to do this, they got to find a way to get it done. when it matters most, like Mike said, 51 and 42. Guess what? That means? You mean, you mediocre dog. And we don't need we don't need that around here. It actually can put me on ice. Let me roll around what's my ankle feels better. But let me roll around and do and do what I can do it. You know, I'm saying like, maybe, you know, maybe I could be the you know, maybe I could be the missing piece, right? That this belly can hold a lot of different goals. And I can move from a 90% I can move from a 90% savings rate down to maybe a 92 or 93. Because 90 is decent, but it's not where he she would like it at 92 or three or 92. Five, you know, maybe what? 93%, right? So that's where it needs to be. So 90 is okay, he's getting away with it. Because Boston is like we're killing everybody for scoring. As we know, we just be 37 to 30. So I get that. But you know, he needs to get to that 92 and 93 clip to be really elite right now. He's just kind of, he's coasting because we have a good team, and they're scoring a lot. But that is going to have to take up a couple of percentage points in order for him to be elite and for us to get to where we want to go, which is certainly cup.

Michael Marcangelo: 48:14

Yeah, I mean, I just think you know, for me, you gave too good at huge contracts. So when you pay a goaltender $8 million a year, he can't be the reason that you don't win. Maybe he's not the reason that you want a cup, which is fine. You just can't lose it for us, right. You can't be the person and the thing that holds a playoff run. And for me, consistently, it has been him last year for me. When he left I know that there was a family emergency, I get it, that and I'm glad everybody's okay. optics wise, you should have canceled your tee time, the day that you get back into Boston the next day. You know what I mean? Like you can't show up and play golf. You just can't do that. It looks bad. It looks like you quit a couple that with the fact that he said he didn't want to be there. It was hockey in July or whatever it was. didn't sound right, guys playing out of his mind right now. Let me ask you guys questions. I'll ask you, Joe. I know you're the host. I want to ask you this question, too, because playing out of his mind, right? Great. You just have a great year so far statistically. You know, as Ray said, neither one is a percentage knock rate 2.5 out goals against average, also not great in not cutting time you are down or let's say you're tied one to one. Do you trust him to not give away that game in the playoffs? No, I

Joe Malkin: 49:33

put your whole walk in one coach who's gonna make that decision is Bruce Cassidy going to in the third quarter of game selling a lot of sailing. We did. But so so but this is the fine line between who to grasp and who Yarrow HELOC are right? Your HELOC is a great middle reliever to give it to put it in baseball terms. He can come in and eat up innings when the starter isn't getting the job done or needs to come out because he's tired. And that's what took his took as the starter. He's the entire starting rotation for this Bruins team. He is playing out of his mind. He could play he could be playing better. I also put a little bit of it on the defense. I think the defense has been lacking. I think Ray already mentioned part of what it's lacking. And that's a little bit of senior We ship but it is lacking some thing. I don't know if it's liking someone, but it's lacking something. So but what Coach is going to make that decision? sure if it's one one, if I'm playing NHL 21, and it's the third period of game seven of the Stanley Cup, and I look and I know as a Bruins fan, all right, this is who to grasp is I have Yarrow lock on my bench. I am putting our lock in the game at that exact point because we know who it is. And it's interesting, because it's too good, not a glorified. Number two in a lot of ways. He's a great goaltender. We've already talked about it. His numbers in the regular season are incredible, and they always have been, but when he was behind Tim Thomas, and he was the number two, that was the bet, one of the best one to tandems it, maybe this generation, but maybe of all time for a team that went on to win a Stanley Cup. So I just I don't know, I don't think I would make that decision if I were the actual head coach of the Boston Bruins, which will never happen, but I see where you're going with it.

Michael Marcangelo: 51:32

Yeah, I think for me, like listen, the ray brought up a really good point about the defense. Right, as you know, right now the record is here, but the fact that they have such a large positive point differential, they're just scoring a lot right now. Now, if that is maintained throughout the regular season in the postseason. All right, then maybe we have something here. But what we've seen from these Bruins teams before under Cassidy, right? Is they is Thanksgiving through New Year's, they're kind of 500. And then they take off to the end of the season. And then a week before the playoffs, they kind of get into it. And in the playoffs. They have to it's a dogfight and round one. And then they're out there like they or they make it to the cup, and then they're just out finessed. So again, I'm not a pothead. I'm not the biggest hockey guy here. But here's the here's the things that I know if for this team to win a stanley cup to grass cast to play the way that he's played all year and not be on the team, not mentally, not physically, not anything he needs to be there and be present. Passionate needs to not be afraid to finish a check or take a check. He needs to be a physical presence as much as he possibly can be out there on the ice. And the defense needs to hold up. If that happens. There a Stanley Cup contender, my guts telling me though that not all those three things will happen.

Joe Malkin: 52:43

What blows my mind about it too, and looking at the numbers is that posture knock is already playing the way that you want him to play. And then he's expected to play in the way the entire city of Boston wants him to play. He missed seven games to start the year. He's third on the team and points.

Michael Marcangelo: 52:59

Yeah, I mean, he's that good.

Joe Malkin: 53:01

He's tied. He's that good. He's tied with with marshawn and goals with with nine. And he has five assists. But I mean, that's 14 points in nine games. But you're absolutely right. I think they have a good thing going and like we said, we don't want to diminish their success. Maybe there's a move for a defenseman. At some point, Craig Smith has come in and done a job. three goals and four assists in 15 games. So so everything's clicking, they're playing? Well, I just think they're above average. Not great right now, because there's something missing somewhere. So I think that kind of answers our other question. actually kind of answers our last two questions there. Mike, are they for real? And will they fail? But let's ask that question to the room. I mean, what is their ceiling for the 2021 season now that they've returned from Lake Tahoe? They're playing? Well, they're 11. Three into they're playing a 56 game season. So and they're gonna play the same opponents the whole way through? What's their ceiling this year? Yeah, I

Craig D'Alessandro: 54:01

mean, I think so regular season wise, their ceiling is the President's trophy. Right. I think that they're that good, I think, I think in a world where they're all healthy, and there's like they're in a vacuum, right? So if everything is like it is now. Yes, presidents trophy? Sure. Maybe the second or third round of the playoffs? Maybe because I just think and again, I'll take the hit for this. I hope that they proved me wrong. Like I really do. He's just not the guy to go. It's just he just will never. He will never be the guy that Tim Thomas was in 2011. That puts the team on his back. And is the reason why you win a Stanley Cup. In my opinion, based on what I've seen. Yeah,

Rayshawn Buchanan: 54:41

but you you just you just say he doesn't have to be the reason you say he can't lose it. So I mean, my thing is, like, Are you looking to get like a Lundqvist? Are you looking to get a patch of water coming through the door? Are you looking to get a Jonathan quick? What do you look? I mean, are you looking for that type of guy to come in here? Mike, you know, Rick dipietro like what are you looking for? Personally, I'm

Unknown: 54:59

looking for him to be Tim Thomas, just for one series in the playoffs. Just for one series, not an entire run would be the reason we went to series.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 55:09

Yeah, I mean, I listen, I mean, at this point, like he definitely owes us like I do. They had a good chance last year, but obviously we know what happened. So and you always from game seven, a couple years ago, just St. Louis. You know yet at the crib, you know, and you know, you lose game seven, you know on on your home myself. That's unacceptable. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's gonna happen for sure

Joe Malkin: 55:31

one of my biggest concerns is looking back at last year when they went away on that break after COVID shut down everything when they came back Finally, and they went into the bubble, they were out of shape. They were lazy and a meanie, like, like Pasternak, just the Boston Celtics in general. I just don't think that they wanted to be there. And you know what, what's interesting is I love and this is gonna be a really petty thing. And Ray's gonna love this comment. But I did love one, two, it was like, just doesn't feel right. It's hockey in July. And it's like, well, you know, what, in the southern hemisphere, that's winter, and that's when they would play hockey. So get over yourself and get on the ice, unless there's a real emergency, which there seemingly was so but I just didn't know. Right? Exactly. When they came back. I just worried that they just weren't all there. And it showed through the playoffs. And I just hope that there isn't a similar mental. It doesn't look like there's a similar mentality this year. But I just hope there isn't

Michael Marcangelo: 56:29

I just just to put a punctuation mark on this on the sentence of the Bruins, right? It doesn't look like that this year, because there's been no adversity. We know what happens when tuca hits adversity. He crumbles historically. So don't do that this year, prove me wrong. prove us all wrong. If you do that, if there are skids in the season where it looks bad like that, maybe they lose three games. And then two good pitches, you know, just pitches a shout out. And then he does it again. He's the reason why you are you start winning again. All right, then you show me that, you know, you're in, you're in. And so we need one of those moments. I don't know if we're gonna get it because the offense is clicking so well. If we do and he proves us wrong, great, but I just had this feeling man. I just don't believe in him. I don't.

Joe Malkin: 57:17

Well, we'll see what happens. There's plenty of season left in the NBA and in the NHL, and we're gonna watch it unfold. And we'll be here every week to tell you guys about it. Ray, did you remember what you were gonna say earlier?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 57:28

I did not. But I'm looking at the Sunday's blow another frickin game. I'll tell you that. That's that's probably what it was tied to. You know, I love it. You know, you're right there. You're up by one. I say Yeah. Well, I said what could go wrong? And they just can't score. It cannot deliver. Bret Stevens you blow Danny. He said I'm sick of a joke. I'm sick of that team. I'm sick of them acting like you know they've arrived and they haven't brushed it was you are not Bill Belichick. You could not come up there with the stoic asked answered after the game was over. You know, we tried to guard Lucca Dodgers tonight, but you know, it just wasn't. It just wasn't on night, man. It's every freaking night. It's not show night, man. Damn, it's every night. It's not your night. What is it going to be your night? Brad?

Joe Malkin: 58:14

Well, it's only it's only not been there night. 16 of 31 nights, right? So

Rayshawn Buchanan: 58:20

that that that makes it so 49% of

Unknown: 58:23

the time. I'm just gonna tell you right now that you're gonna win this game. Like they're they're going to?

Joe Malkin: 58:30

Well, the listeners who have made it this far, the listeners who have made it this far will already know but something I want to bring up guys, and I didn't realize it until until we were doing the show. But we still haven't mentioned it. But 13 days ago, under say two weeks ago, we passed our six month anniversary as a podcast. I don't know if you guys knew that Happy anniversary. I just wanted to throw that out there. And

Michael Marcangelo: 58:52

next month 6000 downloads will take that well. Yeah, well

Joe Malkin: 58:55

absolutely. Take that. And I didn't get you guys anything. But I appreciate you coming in tonight and talking some Celtics and some Bruins. And of course we as always, we appreciate the help of our EP Craig we know that he'll be pulling his hair out as he edits this and swearing at No, I'm just kidding. This was actually this would be a good one for you, Greg. But again, rayshawn Welcome back to the team. We're glad you're on the mend and doing well.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 59:17

Yeah, it was it was good to be back for

Craig D'Alessandro: 59:24

the whole month of February If I were you on the show. rayshawn.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 59:26

Yeah, exactly. It would have been on your own accord. For sure, for sure.

Joe Malkin: 59:33

Yeah. But I was waiting all night to say he waited he waited an hour to say that perfect but for rayshawn became and Mike Do you have anything else to say?

Michael Marcangelo: 59:44

You want me to try and follow that? No,

Joe Malkin: 59:45

no, you're absolutely not. Mike Mark Angelo. I'm your host Joel mailgun. We'll talk to you next time.

Craig D'Alessandro: 59:51

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