WHAT A F***ING CRAZY WEEK ONE IN THE NFL

Dave Clarke: 0:47

Welcome into missing the points. It's a two man show today. It's the Bob and Dave Show as we so carefully name it when we want to give a disclaimer because it might get a little chaotic in here. As you know, longtime listeners of this podcast know we are the only two non Patriots fans. So we have the pride the privilege nay the pleasure to not be on the Patriots podcast where they have to talk about all things wrong and how to put up the building when it's already on fire. We get to talk about the rest of the NFL. So here with my co host, Mr. Robert Kelly real BK with Bobby How the heck are you, buddy?

Rob Kelly: 1:19

Still still gathering my Festering Wounds over the weekend.

Dave Clarke: 1:24

Get to that we'll get to the Dallas Cowboys for sure. Making sure this is a tough week for you a good week for me. We'll talk about that for sure. But I'm good what I what I do want to point out and I'm sure every NFL fan that tunes into this podcast has noticed that was crazy week one,

Rob Kelly: 1:39

but there was there was it was it was the craziest week one like like I said that. I think I've seen maybe ever man that that one o'clock window was was the craziest endings. Just in a 10 minute span. You had the Steelers, upsetting the bangles. You had a tie in goddamn week one of the NFL season, you had 214 Point comebacks it was just everywhere you looked. There was chaos happening in the NFL, isn't it? I love it.

Dave Clarke: 2:11

I love the chaos. It's amazing. So here's what we're gonna do every week during the NFL season. And actually, we do it before you do the Power Rankings before the first week right you do the like, here's where we are. So we're not gonna talk about that. We're just gonna talk about the Week One Power Rangers at rankings after week one Bobby doesn't so perfect guy to have here to really talk through it. I've got my concerns about some of the people and some of the places and I do have a couple of honorable mentions that didn't make the top 10 after the fact so we're gonna start with 10 because we have a limited number of time and honestly everybody after 10 with a couple of notable exceptions isn't quite worth talking about yet in the league. So let's start off with the New Orleans New Orleans Saints. They came out and they had a serviceable one point win over the Atlanta Falcons with the strangest quarterback probably in the league not quite as much of a geek as Russell Westbrook not quite as stoic and private as Tom Brady but somewhere in the middle we have this wonderful Jameis Winston So for whatever he does, he'll at least be entertaining Bobby, what do you make of the saints that show

Rob Kelly: 3:10

was I don't know what it was that really propelled them into that top 10 For me over a lot of the other teams that I was I was considering I'm pretty sure really where my gut was going with this was that Michael Thomas connection man if you look at that wide receiver group I'm just so impressed with how they built that up the I don't think it really matters that you know Drew Brees has gone and if anything it with Jameis they're now in that wide receiver core. I almost look at them as like my opinion has completely worn at where do I get beginning? I was like, I don't know about that. As Alan I don't know about Jameis he seems like a lot of transition to like, Listen Jameis with these wide receivers and Alvin Kamara, I really think they can make some noise in the NFC South so I feel like this is more of a statement number 10 For me that like I really think that the saints could be a good underdog to go after in the NFC.

Dave Clarke: 4:06

Yeah, I mean they did have a scoreless second quarter that you know they did start off a little bit tough but I think that real good teams come to play in the fourth personally and you know I know we talked about this in the in the discord chat prior to this this recording but personally, I mean it's tough for me to rate any team because of a W over the Atlanta Falcons. I mean no weapons,

Rob Kelly: 4:26

especially a comeback victory over the Yeah, I mean, there's everyone in the NFL.

Dave Clarke: 4:31

Yeah, I mean look they have quarter Oh Patterson, who I've always liked, you know former bear dynamic runner, you know, good on special teams too. And I think he got himself a touchdown. What like if you go up and down with no help No, no study guide and you're not an Atlanta Falcons fan? How many Atlanta Falcons can you really name I think they're probably the 29th 30th or 31st best team in the NFL at this point right around there. So for me yeah, I mean, on paper, I don't mind the saints. Like I like the fact that Jarvis Landry is on that team. He's a very likable player. I like the fact that Jameis Winston is on that team and he's gonna get a little bit more airtime because he's fun to watch. And he's a little bit weird but yeah, and I but for me, it's it's I know it's a weak one and I know we do a football podcast here at missing the point and we have to talk about it but I don't think that and I think this is going to be a recurring theme. What I'm about to say I don't think that tells a shit about the tournament saints to be quite honest with you. I really don't. I mean the Falcons were bad enough with Matt Ryan at quarterback like it ag Matt Ryan a quarterback. And I mean, we're not even gonna go there about whatever the hell is going on Indianapolis. But I think that it's important to take a little stock with with teams like the saints realize that Jameis Winston throws as many interceptions as he does touchdowns most of the time and and maybe pump the brakes on top 10 In the NFL, you know, that's just that's just where I'm at with

Rob Kelly: 5:46

it. You know, I hear I hear. But if there's one person that you know that loves week one overreactions is definitely me. And I'm just saying that like, I think that when it comes to what you saw in that first half, right, it definitely was a slow start. It was a bad start for this team. They were down, I think it was 2026 to 10, or 20. It was only six to 726 to seven going into the, into the fourth they were down

Dave Clarke: 6:13

26 to 76 to seven going into the second half.

Rob Kelly: 6:16

Okay. That's funny. That's it's very close. 28 to three,

Dave Clarke: 6:19

but then they won 2726 The Falcons in you know, I

Rob Kelly: 6:22

mean, it's so yeah, so alright, I'm

Dave Clarke: 6:24

sorry, I'm sorry, they ended 2627 26. They were they were down 16 to seven going and going into the second half. Okay, I gave him an extra 10 points there just for charity purposes, but they weren't they're not 16 Seven, and they came back.

Rob Kelly: 6:36

I just the saints have had a wall to Trent. Like I said, while transition plus James was hurt. Thomas was out. So I just feel like they had to settle into that mode. And once they did bend their electric, I just looked at that team like in the NFC especially I really think that can make some noise. So in the end, it really just was a statement number 10. Who the honorable mentions that you would okay. Yeah,

Dave Clarke: 6:57

I think I think it's a good good time to do the honorable mentions. Because I think they're two they're two teams that maybe shouldn't have gone higher than 10. But could have potentially squeaked into the number 10. Spot. I'm going to start with the Pittsburgh Steelers. I just think it's more impressive. Let me let me just make my case here for you. I'll give you like my three points that case make early in the season. I'm not saying they're gonna win the Super Bowl. I'm not saying that they're the same powerhouse Pittsburgh Steelers that they were when we were in high school in college. I'm not even saying that they're going to win, you know, more than one or two games in the playoffs. You're saying they're not going to make the playoffs? I think that's patently ridiculous, but they have one of the best coaches in the NFL. And if people want to argue with me about that, I would just argue it's not necessarily because Mike Tomlin is unbelievable. I think he's a really good coach. But I don't think there's that many good coaches in the NFL. I think that's the issue we run into. And guys like Mike Tomlin who had been tenured there at their franchise for as long as they have never, never had a less than 500 above 500 season, you just gotta give them credit, you gotta give them credit for that. Also, their offensive weapon factories, they can get guys from the third round, you've never heard of that, to come in and put up numbers, you know, 1000 yards receiving on a season, it can just happen, right? So difficult to count them out for me for the credibility factor, but also, they beat the team. That's number five, I believe on your power rankings and the Superbowl runners up, which I just find more impressive than beating the fucking Atlanta Falcons. Like I just do now. I understand that because of the nature of the region that this podcast comes from. And the kind of people that we have in this in this in this group that you grade the Steelers. I'm a little bit of a curve and I understand that they're like a woman in the 80s in corporate America and it's just hard to kind of climb that ladder but come on, man Nagi Harris looked good. That defense look good. They blocked the kick. You know, that doesn't happen all the time. JJ Watt, you know, it's Patrick, you know? Hello.

Rob Kelly: 8:50

I love to know. They absolutely were in the running. So this number 10 spot there's no doubt but when I watched the Steelers on Sunday, I was really impressed I said this to you

Unknown: 8:59

make you made some big boy throw I haven't even gone there yet. Have an

Rob Kelly: 9:04

awesome talent like Mitch made some rows at the end of that game. They did do everything in their power to lose that game though. Which what you can't gloss over like 100% And they're like, hey, bangles win this game, please. Yeah, but but at the same time makeup. Fitzpatrick is just an absolute animal. i Right. There isn't a player like him in the NFL. Like he's, he's, he's a wanted oldie. There's no one in the NFL. That you will see. Have a pick six and a block kick that are both momentum Turner's in that game. You know what I mean? Like, that's, that's that's just not gonna happen, so to speak. Yeah, he's awesome. I'll give you that. I just, we I, again, they're there. They're on that curve. And I couldn't. From from what they were, I mean, I guess the saints were worse last year. So I don't know. I surely look.

Dave Clarke: 9:58

I mean, I've made this point to you before, and I think it still stands Ben Roethlisberger was the thing making the Steelers worse last season and the season before that. The he was the guy losing them games. I'll also say that any team in my experience, I can't think of one that this didn't happen with really realistically, any team that has a little bit of a QB competition, the preseason, either sucks going into the season for the entire season or takes a little bit to get going. You're gonna have a shortened playbook from a distributor coming in. So yeah, you're gonna run out of a little bit of offensive ideas towards the end of the game. And they did that they started to limit what he was like what he was doing, because obviously the defense is going to get more reads on him and he's not Tom Brady. I'm not saying when I talked about the mission, Mitch Hassan's, I'm not I'm not talking about him. Becoming Tom Brady, but I'm talking about him having a very good offense around him and able to win double digit games this season, you know, because we all saw, and I saw firsthand what it was that brought down the Chicago Bears over the last few years if they ever even got up in the first place. And it was Matt naggy and that shitty fuckin front office. Yes, that front office the dragon drafted Mitch Trubisky but man that he was a terrible coach. He was supposed to be this offensive guru who was fucking terrible and he was a fucking dork and his stupid hats anyway. Sorry, that's a sensitive subject. But visors

Rob Kelly: 11:17

that word real quick put a hole down way right click

Dave Clarke: 11:20

put a hole head on to what the fuck I knew I shouldn't know when I saw it with a visor the first time anyway look, point being that really shouldn't be Mitch his fault because everybody in the like, follow the logic. It's like LSAT logic, right? If everyone in the NFL knows Justin fields is good, right? I'm not saying he's like, you know, the best QB in the league. But everyone knows he's good. He's talented. And Matt naggy, you made him look shitty. That maybe Mitch Trubisky might be good too. I saw him put up good games in Chicago man I just did you know he's not as bad as everyone says. I understand that that he was the butt of a lot of jokes. But he's just he's not Kirk Cousins. He's you know he's not as he's not Chad Pennington. He's not in that category of like fucking good ol boys farmers that they found that can that have an arm that that are that are stupid. I know. He has a stupid looking face and he looks like a stupid guy. But he just isn't. And in a really good offensive scheme like that for a really good coach. I think the sky is the fucking limit. Maybe not the sky. But like a really tall building.

Rob Kelly: 12:56

You might not be able to keep that Kirk Cousins reference for long but this season, but we'll get there. I

Dave Clarke: 13:01

mean, think about well, I'll defend my Kirk Cousins takes all day look at his

Rob Kelly: 13:06

weapons. But yeah, that was almost you. There's there's a lot more potential in Pittsburgh than there was. I would temper they they also be buffalo week on last year. And, you know, I talked Tom was a great coach. And I feel like when you give him that much time to prepare for a team, he's gonna come out and they're gonna put up a good game. And again, the Bengals played the worst game I've seen them play in 18 months. Fire is

Dave Clarke: 13:33

definitely an argument for a Super Bowl hangover here. I mean, if there is ever a team that that will would have a Super Bowl hanging over the way that they lost, you know, like the you know, the kind of improbable nature of them getting there in the first place. I think it would be this Bengals team and like what you know, the remains to be seen how big of a win this actually was. If the Bengals are going to be a NINE and a team this year.

Rob Kelly: 13:51

I just I just feel like you had to have a team play that worse that they played since since pretty much Joe burrow came back from that ACL since they got Jamar Chase and they still almost won. And you had this he was just on

Dave Clarke: 14:04

the field. There's still on the field. You know what I mean? You can only play what's put in front of us? Well, I'm just saying

Rob Kelly: 14:09

and one of the best kickers one of the best kickers that we have in the NFL this three goddamn game winning field well yeah, a bowl so it's because I don't know I heard the enough just talking about this house Washington highlights earlier long snapper long snapper was out yet, so it messed up the timing of it all. So you had to have all those circumstances having let me tell you something about that little guy. Just sneak

Dave Clarke: 14:32

kick rocks with that launch. Okay, are you really gonna come to me at the Super

Rob Kelly: 14:37

Bowl Rounders down point three second difference, okay? No,

Dave Clarke: 14:41

I'm sorry. Fuck that kick the fucking stupid ball through the stupid uprights you got one job. You have the easiest fucking job on the team.

Rob Kelly: 14:48

I heard I heard I heard you like kickers is weird on this street is

Dave Clarke: 14:53

shouldn't kickers are stupid. It's just stupid. You should have to string in the endzone and winning it that's how you score in football like the fact that some fucking 165 pound nerd can come out and kick the fucking game winning field goal it's fucking stupid. It's stupid that Tom Brady owes Adam monetary to fucking Super Bowls. It's It's It's crazy talk. You gotta get in fucking endzone anyway I'm getting I'm getting too excited. We gotta get through the rest of these fucking Power Rankings The other honorable mention and obviously there's a if you haven't figured this out first time listeners there's a severe bias here but the other honorable mention for number 10 was the bears. Now listen to fucking San Francisco defense great running run defense terrible inclement weather they get I told you in the fight fucking told you guys in the fucking preseason prediction show that that San Francisco team was still fucking messed up because of how they run their organization. I fucking told you the talent on the team is is notable. And their defense I think is really good. But fuck man, they're they're weird you know? And I think I mean I enjoyed my bears coming out with when I wasn't expecting it. I'll be honest.

Rob Kelly: 15:55

Definitely not expecting that the best thing for them was that it was an absolute goddamn monsoon. It was awesome. Love a game like that. Feels feels slip inside at the end of the day. That's pretty dope. Yeah. I was like don't get hurt. Got Davey slip for a while.

Dave Clarke: 16:11

Just go to the locker room. I saw.

Rob Kelly: 16:14

So as tick tock says playing on my phone. So the thing that just kind of escaped With the bears may they start out with if they were three no last year with that. And the year before that they're five out. So like, oh, yeah, so they're notorious fast starters, are they? They do

Dave Clarke: 16:33

flatter to deceive, like historically as a franchise, but I mean, everybody, everybody's argument here and look, I'm not going to sit here week one because of one win and make the case that the Chicago Bears are going to be the NFC champions, or am I No, I'm just kidding. So like, here's the thing. Yes, I,

Rob Kelly: 16:50

as I'm looking up numbers, I'm like, oh,

Dave Clarke: 16:52

no, I mean, look, I agree with you. And that has been a thing in the past. And they've been like the worst five and Oh, team, like two years ago, you know, but I think it's a completely new coaching staff. It's completely new regime. And I think that as a Bears fan, and I'll leave it at this because we got to get through the rest of these power and rankings as a Bears fan. I liked what I saw from a intelligence standpoint, from a from a discipline standpoint, from a preparation standpoint, I think that that's those are just good signs, you know, that that's where we are as a franchise, we're looking for good things wherever we can. I was upset that they didn't improve the offensive line as much as they should have to protect us in fields and to establish what really is our most offensive threat still, probably, which is our our two really good running backs. But I think the guys are trained well, I think that that ever flus might actually be a good coach, I'm really glad that we've started a new regime there. And if they beat the Packers on Sunday night, we have to have a conversation about number 10 on the power rankings, we have to have a conversation about it, even if it's fleeting, because the Packers do not fucking look good. And they're not in the power ranking. So we can talk about that if

Rob Kelly: 17:54

that number 10 Is my revolving door man, you know, that's like number 10 is like, they're my like, Hey, check it out. I thought about this team. No, I love that. The other one I left off I before we get sir. I'm sorry. Is the Packers aren't on here. I feel like that's really notable, but they looked like absolute dogshit on Sunday, or did the Vikings look really good? Right? Well, that exactly. So that but Aaron Rodgers was terrible. It's just the whole thing was terrible. I mean, and he has been

Dave Clarke: 18:21

dog whistling that he was going to suck this season. Season. Do you

Rob Kelly: 18:26

see Pat back and we asked him if he was drinking Ayahuasca.

Dave Clarke: 18:30

And he did I would love that I mean, almost married

Rob Kelly: 18:40

heirs that I asked him.

Dave Clarke: 18:43

This is it almost more than the bears doing well, almost not quite. But almost more than the bears doing well do I like to watch the Packers fail and I very rarely get to do it except usually come playoff time. I've spoken to always get to do it. So moving on. You said that number 10 Was your revolving door. But I think that there might be a little bit of revolution here at number nine, I You are so much higher on the Eagles than I am. And I want you to make the case to me why beating a Detroit Lions team by three points ship and 35 points soon. And beaten them by three. With Jalen hertz as your QB gets to number nine in the Power Rankings. This is going to be our biggest point of contention. I just don't get it.

Rob Kelly: 19:21

So I think that they saw it. So they had that game of control bed. I was watching it. They had like watching a red zone. And I was like I really

Dave Clarke: 19:31

I don't know if I agree. They didn't score one single point in the fourth in the fourth quarter. And the lions rally. So they let us say alive. I feel like what happened

Rob Kelly: 19:41

was they got into this as the Lions of the old mindset and they went off the brakes and they let it they let things slide. But this isn't the goddamn lions Volkman this team, this team. Well, we all watch hotdogs. This team has that grip man. They actually do not curse. First of all, it is a curse. But I actually liked what they're doing. They're in Detroit. I feel like they have a mindset where they're not going to quit. And the eagles were up on that team and they get off the brakes. I was you have Joe. I know Jalen hertz is is the cotreatment er are no sugar all day long. But when he is treating, he treats his treats are pretty damn good. You know, he got

Dave Clarke: 20:26

no he's fun to watch. But he's fun to watch when he's playing well, I will not take that

Rob Kelly: 20:31

from AJ brown man, he had such an element to that offense. He was 10 for 155 You know what I mean? Like he elite wide receiver play adds so much to an NFL team. It adds so much to your quarterback like you just see it in their head where like they know if the shit hits the fan. They got someone that they can be like, Hey, catch this and they're gonna get that you know, it's it's such a different element and

Dave Clarke: 20:59

Tyler when you know, Andre Xhosa when his writers he records

Rob Kelly: 21:04

Jack when he doesn't have fucking Amari? Anyways. That's a whole nother story.

Dave Clarke: 21:13

I just do it. We'll do that. We're doing that at the end of the power rankings before the preview by the way, we're doing cowboys despair hour, but stay tuned. Big market

Rob Kelly: 21:20

has a big market He's alright I got I got I get the concerns over the defense totally get it because I was high on that defense and after that week one I'm like maybe not but I can tell you that I'm higher on them and the NFC that a lot of teams the NFC is not that good so

Dave Clarke: 21:36

we talked about this the production shows the NFC is fucking trash

Rob Kelly: 21:39

it's not good and I just look at it as like if you're telling me that there's what two other teams maybe they have a better chance to go to the Super Bowl in the NFC and I just looked at what happened a week one who was on the team that projected like what happened to the Cowboys like there's so many different things that are trending in the egos direction that I was like, You know what? Number nine? Yeah, I couldn't go any higher than that. But it just they're the the that was the upside so high then like it is right in front of them everything else

Dave Clarke: 22:13

are all upside at this point. Yeah, but I think you know, we'll see because they have to go and play who next week where they plan to play the Vikings next week so like I mean, they might drop or they might drop off your rankings if the Vikings failed did a week one okay let's move on to the Los Angeles Rams a little bit of a boring team to talk about right now because I don't know if again I don't know if we can actually really say anything about them getting their asses kicked by the team that they got their assets kicked by right I mean, I think anybody was was going to be a lamb for the slaughter going in against the Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen and week one I think they would have beat anybody in the NFL last last week you know like they look like such a powerhouse they're you know to quote a very famous postgame speech they are who we thought they were but a little bit in the opposite direction the bills are fucking good do they look good and we'll talk about them when we get to the top of the power rankings but right now we're talking about the Rams Stafford doesn't look like himself I think there's something to be said for the rumors being true about something being up with his arm and this just not being there year again this year. What do you think?

Rob Kelly: 23:15

Yeah, no, there's there's one thing specifically that he is it was the I think it was the pic I forgot to pick it up but it was a pic over on the sideline. Yeah, where it was out and it was like normally he makes that zip pass and it's in there and it kind of flirted a little bit and yeah, you it was noticeable another thing too is the O line was noticeable when they lost whereas who's just which is really not what you need if he's banged up right it just it didn't look good to me man and I love the rams and I do think that that fucking they're the reason they're on this list is because the pedigree there the World Champs Yeah, they can't You can't you can't lose to the team that I think is the best team in the NFL. And drop off a totally champions, right.

Dave Clarke: 24:02

We don't know much about about it after week one, but there was some worrying signs as I'm saying. I'm not saying you should be worried if you're Cooper cup fantasy owner, you know, I still think he's going to put up his numbers. The only one you shouldn't be worried. I mean, honestly, I mean, he still had a touchdown pass you kind of go over 100 receiving yards, he's gonna be fine. That and Like honestly, he might even get more targets if Stafford struggling to be honest with you, because he might need to rely on them a little bit more. And Stafford is actually famously good. I think you know, I've been critical of him in the past. When he gets going he can really spread the ball around and I really didn't see that last week but I think that the bills do a good job on D on the defensive side of the ball kind of stifling you and not getting you into rhythm and that is the way to beat Matt Stafford but also it might be his fucking elbow or whatever dude, I don't know.

Rob Kelly: 24:42

Yeah, in the was in the bills defense is good. But yeah, I mean, Alan Alan Robinson it's like it's like Stafford didn't he? I don't know if there have the chemistry of staffers.

Dave Clarke: 24:52

I tried to tell you guys

Rob Kelly: 24:55

looking at him bro.

Dave Clarke: 24:56

I tried to tell you guys Hey, he's an asshole being he's we weirdly lost a step and like doesn't I don't know if he's working hard or I don't know what the deal is. But I did try to tell you guys he's just not as good as everybody thought he was a he and he hasn't he wasn't in Chicago for the last three seasons. So it's unsurprising to me in the kingmaker Juju go to Kansas City to me was a much bigger deal and a much bigger addition than Alan Robertson going to going to LA uh, you know, I think they're, they're guys that are sort of talked about in the same in the same way where it's like, yeah, he was good for that one season member when put them in? Has he really produced at this level, whatever I've met, but then I think the other thing is everyone's saying another parallel is that you know, they both had quarterbacks that were an elite, you know, so now you give Juju mahomes. And you give Stafford to Alan Robinson like let's see what happens here. Both wide receiver ones you know, both guys are that can catch the deep ball. But yeah, I think it's gonna work out a lot better for juju, to be honest with you. And as far as offseason moves, go, but yeah, we'll see. We'll see. I mean, getting beat by the bills shouldn't really mean that you are a bad team. Right? Like I think we can agree on

Rob Kelly: 26:24

so I know it's a huge record of reaction because they're on the primetime on that third Thursday game you know, all eyes were on them. Yeah. But I've heard their name a lot as like the the fallback team for this year and possibly not like NFC not making the playoffs in the NFC. I don't see that happening. And but like champs yeah bloke but like after what you just said about the NFC caumont No way yeah, you could see a season from hell happening from them and then ended up at like 10 and seven nine and eight though I

Dave Clarke: 26:55

think one though, dude. I mean you really I mean like that is a big week one overreaction because the bills are gonna block them or everybody they're gonna have one weird game this year when they lose like that's what's gonna happen and I think I fought the they're so dynamic like do they play do they play the Chiefs this year Nina let's see. I mean I hope so. I would imagine so I hope they correct that's that's the game that's the game of the season right there for me on paper looking forward if it does happen, but

Unknown: 27:21

yeah, anyway, October. Oh, shoot we week six. Yeah, great. I love that. I

Rob Kelly: 27:26

want them can't wait. There's gonna be a night game. What is it? Four choices? I gotta put that a night they should put that in lesser nighttime games.

Dave Clarke: 27:35

It has to be primetime what that has to be prime time prime time for it well at four o'clock is prime time that week.

Unknown: 27:42

That's fucking Yeah, yes.

Dave Clarke: 27:44

That's cool. That's cool. Moving on

Rob Kelly: 27:46

was prime that time that we finally like the fucking ravens and the Colts are some stupid

Dave Clarke: 27:50

some stupid I mean, the Monday night game is trash but anyway, that was like two blind guys trying to find a fucking apple on the ground. I just did not enjoy that fucking game at all. But let's talk a little bit about the Baltimore Ravens. I think this podcast is split on Lamar Jackson in his book and split on Lamar Jackson Where are you on the mark remind me

Rob Kelly: 28:11

the ceiling man listen when he puts the pieces together the probability there take yeah there and but it's it's a fucking hell of a Rob Williams bro like It's Rob lames if he had a three point jumper yeah you know it'd be like he should develop three points that's what Lamar is like if you think about it, man when when Lamar is on, and he's dropping dimes like he was on Sunday. Like he if he's dropping dimes and he can he's the fastest player on the field like what the hell are you gonna do then it's then

Dave Clarke: 28:43

again and I you know I hate to keep banging this drum but they played the Jets.

Rob Kelly: 28:47

I know. I agree. Agree. Agree. They look great against it's like the cupcake game where Alabama beats and like 63 Eat it up and I get it Yeah, I might suggest too but I just I like Lamar this year so so as long as Lamar is there and do all of our things. I have a feeling they're gonna be on this ranking. So I

Dave Clarke: 29:06

Is he in a contract here? Yeah, yeah. He's

Rob Kelly: 29:10

Yeah, he's gonna end up with a lot of money at the end of the

Dave Clarke: 29:12

day every though like kind of Lamar Jackson in a contract year he's fucking and I saw him he was working out in the offseason like he's ready to go I do just think yeah ceiling but I think that you know if the I probably I don't know this for sure off the top my head but I probably Mike hates him. I would imagine Mike hates him. Right. Just knowing how Mike watches football. So are one of our other podcasts contributors, Mike Mark Angelo, I would imagine I am sure I remember him saying this. But knowing how he watches football and sports in general, I would imagine he fucking hates Lauren Jackson and does not believe that he'll ever achieve that ceiling. And I think his argument just to do a little proxy argument is, yeah, his ceiling is great. But like he's never gonna hit it. So what? Who cares?

Rob Kelly: 29:51

I can hear that coming out of his mouth. Yeah, well.

Dave Clarke: 29:56

I mean, it remains to be seen. He has everything to prove still, you know, I have no doubt that he's going to have a really great statistical regular season. But at the end of the day, it's going to come down to how he does in the playoffs. And the AFC is a bunch of sharks, my friends there, whoever he sees, starting from the first round is going to be a good team. And I hate to bang the drum of like, I don't mean to be Skip Bayless here but you know, that historically, they've they've stuttered, when it comes to playoff moves and making any kind of run. I don't think anybody is really taking them seriously to contend for a championship but are you

Unknown: 30:32

stay tuned. Stay tuned.

Dave Clarke: 30:35

All right. Moving right along Minnesota Vikings. This is a good one. It

Rob Kelly: 30:38

is I just wanted Yeah, I

Dave Clarke: 30:39

want to talk to them. I have to say I'm automatically down on the Vikings. I was on record being correct as everybody overriding them the past few seasons. I think they've been consistently overrated the past few years. Yes. Kirk Cousins is their quarterback. I do not think he's talented, but good. God, they're weapons. That is some fucking receiving core. That is they have they have the they have the juice. They have the juice. They're like corn, they've got the juice at the end of the day. I love the fact that they came out and fucking smashed. The Packers love that cook and Jefferson are obviously studs. They're super, super, super fun to watch. And they can even make her cousins look good on offense. I love where the Vikings are on this, you know, and you know, I don't like the Vikings. You know, I'm anti Viking, but I think you put them exactly in the right place because I think they have upward mobility here. I think that they could win maybe their first six or seven games and be a little bit of a dark horse sleeper for the NFC and on this side of the ball. What do you think?

Rob Kelly: 31:35

Yeah, I'm gonna go down as the biggest addition. There's a lot of movement in the NFL this year, right? Yeah, the biggest addition to me was Kevin O'Connor going to guide him and center Vikings because I think people forget that he made Jared Goff a all pro quarterback and had him go to a Super Bowl in Los Angeles. I was his offense guys. He made Cooper cup, a record breaking receiver. I mean, granted, you know, he crops amazing, guys. I got it. He's awesome. But he was he could have even said it. I just felt like I was always open. Because he puts me in the places I need. Yeah, he was just

Dave Clarke: 32:16

he was like, I was surprised how many open looks like

Rob Kelly: 32:18

it and now he is Justin Jefferson in that same role as I love but he is nowhere goddamn close to the athlete that Justin Jefferson athletically No, it's the ceiling is so high with his Minnesota Vikings team and they're, they're my they're like my second team that I'm going to be rooting for him on isn't just because of how

Dave Clarke: 32:39

fun I was so high on the Cowboys for you. Now you're gonna take an NFC North team as your second team. Why do we have to have a blood feud this season? That's crazy.

Rob Kelly: 32:47

It's every football season bro it's what we do. Everyone else was all loving the Patriots so I got it we got to fight someone

Dave Clarke: 32:52

I mean honestly quite frankly. I I think I was saying it the past few seasons people were high on the Vikings past five years into at different times. And I think I was saying it from an educated perspective of the fact that I watch my team play them twice a year. I have to know if they're good or not. Because I have to know where what my division looks like. And I was saying the past few seasons from an educated perspective that they were not going to be good and I was proven to be correct. However, I don't think I can keep saying that. They looked real real good. They looked well coached as you were saying about McConnell finally like they had studs all over the field. I can I can hear like to do another reference of another one of our podcasters coming in here I can hear Rayshawn just being like to I do not trust Kirk Cousins though. When the game is on the line when this has happened. I can see it I can see an NFC Conference Final like you know some big game I can see kirk cousins and I can see Jefferson wide open I can see Kirk Cousins puking it up I can it's

Rob Kelly: 33:47

clear as fucking day costing me so much money because I know I'm gonna be in my head

Dave Clarke: 33:51

you know? Okay right there I can see it clear as clear as I can see right now on the screen. Yeah, so fair. However, I can't be down on them this season. I can't not not from a from a Bears fan perspective. I hope that they fail. But from a podcasting trying to talk about the NFL. From an educated standpoint, I can't they looked fucking great. The Packers didn't look great. The Packers look bad but I think to me on the eye test hard to describe maybe not good radio, but on the eye test. They look like the Vikings did that to them. That's what it looked like to me. It didn't look like the Packers just Yeah, I mean Aaron Rodgers didn't look like himself whatever but to me it just looked like an execute a game plan executed well with talented people versus franchise that I think is not not in the right place. And I'll say it now because the backers didn't make the power rankings so we're not gonna talk about him again after this

Rob Kelly: 34:43

as probably the best part of the entire podcast.

Dave Clarke: 34:46

I love it. It makes me so happy.

Rob Kelly: 34:48

Yeah, no. Yeah, no, it's it's just this I feel like they kind of flipped in my mind where we're now it's I feel like the Packers kind of look probably coached the Packers kind of look like they're a mess they still have some talent over there

Dave Clarke: 35:02

they have a little bit of LeBron itis you know when you let your star players sort of decide who your coaching staff is going to be and decide who's like going to go where and then he goes in the offseason he

Rob Kelly: 35:10

doesn't he's not doing that work stress balls

Dave Clarke: 35:14

back and forth and I Watsky which listen I don't fucking hate him for no

Rob Kelly: 35:17

more for it they're just not I can't I can do so I can being a winning quarterback you know?

Dave Clarke: 35:25

Yeah and like he went on big cats podcasts and basically took shit from like the most famous Chicago podcaster and literally

Rob Kelly: 35:32

sat there was like, I want to let you know that the best part of my entire year every year is when you lose and yeah, I mean it happens a lot so I have yours every

Dave Clarke: 35:44

and you lose a lot you forget it like you said every he said everything to Aaron Rodgers that I would pay all the money in my bank. But I loved it. Yeah, listen NFC North you know, we talked about it a little bit in the prediction show was like maybe not being that interesting this year, because all the teams sucked but I think maybe watch this space. I think there's there's some maybe some interesting things that might happen which is only good for us, Bob. So moving on. I think what we're gonna do is we're gonna skip the Bengals. I think we've touched on them a little bit based on the you know, the Steelers wants to watch pot, part of the podcast. I think that I personally think let's just make a quick prediction. I think they're gonna turn it around. I like Joe Burrell. I think he's a good quarterback. They're talented team. Even Jamar Chase have one of the most talented telepathic connections of a quarterback and wide receiver I've ever seen probably because I've never seen two players that have played together that long across to across two different competitions. You know, like for two different levels of the game, but I like them. I like what they bring to the table. I think Joe burrow is mentally strong. And I think they're gonna be able to turn it around. Quick prediction from your Where do you think the Bengals season is going?

Rob Kelly: 36:46

I just look at this as a it's a if ever McPherson does what he's supposed to, we're talking about how resilient the bangles are and how they outlasted all that and still came back. And they're, you know, you know on this run again so I I'm not overreacting to that week one. I'm not doing it if they lose next week to the Cowboys. They're fucking up. I'll tell you that.

Dave Clarke: 37:07

They're fucking out, Kenny. That's it. Yeah, fair enough. I think that you know, they're like you said they were filled away from winning and then we're not having this conversation about what's up at the Bengals. So moving on to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. A weird offseason for Tom Brady. He's a weird guy I'm pretty sure he like drinks the blood of babies I don't know what's going on with him Hey Tom, where were you in the offseason have to go head to go make a new deal with the devil the income the contract and run a little bit dry and we have to sign something again but he's back and he played against your I'm so sorry. Dallas Cowboys now I was gonna do Dallas Cowboys despair hour but I guess we can just talk about them here in the in the context of losing to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers looked like they might have stayed in that start Brady stalls a few times going into the into the red zone. I personally loved what Julio Jones look like at Tom Brady's got to drink and fucking you know, kale milkshakes or whatever the fuck and he looked like himself again, looks motivated, looks reinvigorated, really excited to see that running and arounds with him really smart. I kind of like to play calling a little bit better this year with a new coaching staff and I think Tom Brady has again not lost a fucking step. So before we get into what's going on with with your Dallas Cowboys, and maybe do or I don't know, if you only want to do one commiseration this season to never talk about them again. Well, before we do that, talk to me about how you saw the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the context of putting them number four in your power rankings. Tom Brady's still got it or what

Rob Kelly: 38:22

yet? He definitely does. I mean, he watching that game. I watched it with a realistic patriots and that is not shader through any of the podcasts. I was that he anytime you watch him walk down the fields. He's like, I hate watching him in another uniform. Because he's so goddamn good. Listen, Brady still has it. He absolutely has to deal with devil i. We've been saying this for years, man. And I feel like he has like you said he has like sign offs on that deal with the devil that he now add Julio on to that he added a B on to and then he fell off. That's why he got kicked out.

Dave Clarke: 38:56

Well, you know, I was talking about this. The wife and I were watching the game. I mean, the fact that he always seems to find a weapon and every time he put he finds a weapon that he doesn't have to give anything up for. It's never a trade, you know, like he goes and finds a guy that he's like, I remember him being good. Like when I was fucking only 38

Rob Kelly: 39:17

wide receivers that are wily vets. That came into the league. 10 years that sound right, but yeah, it sounds ready, man. You know what I mean? But I have to say that they should be the Cowboys by a lot more than 19 the SEC.

Dave Clarke: 39:31

That's it. That's a crazy tough to level that at them. I mean, fine. This is a good this is a good time to transition. I'm gonna ask you a couple do you feel about this? Cowboys defense isn't the problem. They're just they're not the Pro. No,

Rob Kelly: 39:43

they're the only thing there's not a goddamn problem.

Dave Clarke: 39:46

Yeah, well, I mean, there's only two things. So I mean, at the end of the day, I got the Cowboys defensively exactly as good as I thought they're gonna look. If you have money fantasy team, I would be that worried they might be on the field a lot. But I mean, plague the play calling already is terrible, the list of weapons. how bad the weapons are. I was shocked the fact that I only recognized one name on in the in the wide receiver Corps. I told you what was going to happen with Zeke. He's not your Obi Wan anymore. He's getting paid too much money sitting on the bench. That's a fact. And he looked like a fucking Power Ranger. And that's stupid helmet he was wearing. He's not the same guy anymore. He's not trying as hard. It's it just is what it is. And I'm talking about this completely out of the out of the context of DAX and getting hurt. I'm talking about what we saw in that game. It's criminal what they did to him. I mean, I specifically said this is Dax Do or Die put up or shut up season and you can't say that when you give him guys that are you know, well? No, you can't really pretty and make those guys look good though, right? No,

Rob Kelly: 40:45

he wouldn't though. He would. Listen. Alright, so the cow what is yours? The floors what they did to this team? Uh, you already said it. Growth is absolutely fucking criminal. They took the number one offense in football last year. Yeah, wide receiver statistically actually the number one scoring fucking offense in football. They had wide receivers the first week of it was CD lamb, Amari Cooper, fuckable, Amari Cooper, and we have Michael Gallup. Cedric Wilson. Like you just go down the line of dudes that we had the DACA throw the ball to right? Do you know who are number two goddamn wide receiver was as we know a fucking Brown. Do I know who Noah Brown is? Yeah. I didn't write the exam. He was our number, bro. He he was a number five goddamn wide receiver last year and the Cowboys right so what they did in the office is yeah, I get it we couldn't resign tomorrow he's getting paid too much. You trade this guy for a fifth round pick and then you elevate and

Dave Clarke: 41:53

listen I understood not resigning and Mark who again understood that because we have this argument all last season of Amari Cooper comes back it's going to be a totally different thing Amari Cooper comes back is gonna be totally different thing he couldn't stay healthy and be when he did come back it wasn't a totally different thing so I that move I understood and that move I defend it in the offseason but go ahead

Rob Kelly: 42:12

okay, so do something and replace him with fucking someone else Can I correct you know, like, I get it, but you got it you got to do something to make your team better. Yeah, that that is that is what you should be looking at at all times is to make your team better especially in this window that we have. We have all these elite guys are rookie goddamn contracts that that I know Dak and Zeke take up a lot of that Capital IQ you don't get like a Parsons on a rookie contract that often you don't get a Trayvon Diggs on a rookie contract

Dave Clarke: 42:44

that Yeah, that could that really could be a generational defense that you're about to waste way through it.

Rob Kelly: 42:48

You got you got to capitalize on this shit and for you to roll out Noah Brown, and fucking I can't remember his name right now. I'm so mad Houston, the undrafted wide receiver as your two big guys right as your edge two and three. And then for me to watch an undrafted wide receiver, drop a fourth and to pass that is the game and that's who you're fucking throwing the ball to after after everything from last year after that offense that we saw. And that's the product that you put on the field to me in week one. Like you said regardless of the Dak injury, go fuck yourself Scott Boyd's like I love the Dallas Cowboys man I do I love him to death but by by the third quarter I was just beside myself where I'm just like listen i I'm at I'm at the acceptance piece already. This this team everything that we said was wrong in the offseason all the Cowboys fans like you didn't get any Oh wind deaths before the season even starts. Tyrone Smith goes down. Oh was in shambles. Wide Receiver Look, why didn't you replace Amari first game of the season. The biggest thing is that is so noticeable is just the lack of talent at the wide receiver group. So it's just like these things that the most common Dallas Cowboy fan is pointing out and gods in July, and August are the first things that show that you're just not. You're not a competitive team this season is so infuriating to me because like they could have adjusted it as we evolve this cap space and they don't fucking do it. And it's just so it's just the it's like the Red Sox argument. Smith. What's the direction? What the hell are we actually doing here?

Dave Clarke: 44:30

Yeah, what is the what is the culture? You know, what do we do? Are you studs do you bring in studs with more studs or like the Cowboys seem to say or are you not? And I thought that's that's kind of the case at least and I'll say this just to sign off on the Cowboys talking. I'm glad you got to vent a little bit on your podcast here. But at least they don't get your hopes up. At least troops up for eight weeks. Oh, Griffin and shit the bed. You know, now that this season is done. And the Dak injury.

Rob Kelly: 44:53

The Dak injury just kinda like cemented it. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, Dax. So

Dave Clarke: 44:57

can't fucking stay healthy. Let's be honest, I experienced I understand that these are injuries that are like, you know, they don't seem like soft muscle injuries where you're like, Oh, why are you not you know, like, maybe you're just being a bitch or whatever. I understand the real injuries and the real things, but it's like stay folk and healthy dude. Stay healthy. Tom Brady had one fucking season one season where he didn't play and they still won 11 games. So moving on to the Chargers. They look fun. I mean, I'm really into I'm really into Herbert. You know about I've told you I think he's gonna be the MVP this year. I think he's looking really good. I think I think he's got some weapons. What do you think? I mean, they're your number throughout the the your obligatory number three. Is that Is that what it looks like? Or what do you think? I mean, they're, they're looking good. And I'm, by the way, we're gonna do a little preview at the end of this. We have to rush through the last few but they're playing the chiefs and it's going to tell you they're playing the chiefs on Thursday, which is if you're listening to this tomorrow, it's today if you're listening to this, they're playing sometimes time it's hard time is difficult. It ebbs away every second it seems, but they're playing the Chiefs today. Everybody that playing the Chiefs as you're listening to this you better tune in that's going to be a real litmus test for both teams. I'm really excited to see him and my entire fantasy team of May is made up of either chargers or chiefs so what do you think what do you think this charger is gonna look good?

Rob Kelly: 46:09

I love the Chargers this year man. I mean, the Herbie Herbie connection is is so real with this team that it if if you watch like the all 22 footage of Herbie from this last week, if you ever had any doubts about this, man, I promise you won't anymore. I can guarantee you that was there was a couple of throws that he made there as well with Chandler Jones was like, draped on this dude back foot, which is your plant foot and Herbert snow threw the ball like twice 82 yards on a rope and we're

Dave Clarke: 46:44

trying to tell everybody it's crazy this guy's preseason I was trying to tell everyone no one had notably you said specifically you're like man this is I didn't I well I just said there was a whole last hype train that I was jumping on That's what you said

Rob Kelly: 46:57

I didn't say you were jumping on the hype train lifts I agree with the hype train but I just I the height Trados scares me that's all so when everyone when not saying our podcast because our podcasts like Jimmy Garoppolo and average quarterbacks not great okay 160 of our podcast like

Dave Clarke: 47:17

nobody's perfect

Rob Kelly: 47:21

Yeah, no, I I just I like to chargers I like what they're doing keto diet will be out hertz but they have

Dave Clarke: 47:28

you know, playing tough teams twice a year. Listen,

Rob Kelly: 47:31

they have they have wide receiver depth to make up for the keener now and going down. They got out there. And they that core, they have to have to have weapons and they have great defense though. They have really good defense Jesse Jackson didn't even play this week or their defenses still

Dave Clarke: 47:46

ruling that defense three pitches in their defense over the course of the last few offseasons you saw them adding pieces. And it was just smarter because I think that they I honestly think they had a game plan and go for it this next year. I think they were building and building and building to say this is when Herbert's going to hit his peak, this is when our offensive weapons are going to be as affordable as they're going to be the next Austin Eckler contracts gonna be fucking ridiculous. Like this is when we're going to be able to really come to fruition so they slowly added pieces to their defensive they can be eight out of 10 on both sides of the ball. And I think that they might have the MVP on their on the offensive side of their of their ball there. But again, I mean I've said this in other shows. The MVP isn't necessarily the best player in the league. The MVP is the guy that gets the most attention right they the best guy that gets the most attention I really do think that that's going to be Justin Herbert this year so I'm glad I'm on record with that. They're fun to watch man and you know what, they're the local team where I'm at at this point so they're always on TV so it's it's just good it's good all round I think it's gonna be great. I think it's gonna be cool division to watch. I think it's gonna be there's gonna be narratives but you what you have you had a little quiz. Oh

Rob Kelly: 48:46

no, I was just gonna I was gonna ask you so I like I just put a connection here in LA there. Have you ever seen a chargers Jersey walking around at all? All over the place? Yeah, okay.

Dave Clarke: 48:56

Good. I would say probably I saw more chargers jerseys when they were still in San Diego. Then I saw rams jerseys. Okay, to be quite honest with you. The Chargers as a franchise are pretty well established here. I think they're there. They're the real deal and I think chargers fans are the real deal to be honest with you. I think San Diego is a really underrated city and if you ever have a chance to go visit it do now that they're in LA Are they are they the redheaded stepchild of a team here in LA Yeah, but I fucking hate the Rams because they got Stafford and hate Stafford so I'm all in I'm all in let's fucking chargers chargers season baby bolts for life now that this isn't the same chargers versus

Rob Kelly: 49:32

all motivations on the show. Yeah, but

Dave Clarke: 49:34

I mean the same chargers with the daily Thomas and walking around throwing a bitch fit because his team wasn't good enough to be the Patriots Jersey championship game this isn't the same chargers you know like give me give me a little bit of a reverb at the Federal Hall last rebrand. Okay, moving on to your number two Kansas City Chiefs. Makes sense. Let's just do the bills and the Chiefs at the same time. Makes sense. Same division.

Rob Kelly: 49:53

Fucking honestly, they're in their own tear. You have

Dave Clarke: 49:56

absolutely broken studs all over the fucking field can't wait to can't wait to see them play. You know, this same I should say same conference but the the AFC Championship. This year is your number one and number two of your power rankings and I can't wait to see it. Studs everywhere can see cheese getting slept on because people are given LeBron syndrome or they're just bored of watching the best team every year, right? The bills have built their team on the Kinsey cheese model. You know like that this kind of studly kind of semi mobile, well, not semi mobile, but not only mobile quarterback, weapons everywhere, and a defense that can just like basically compete. I love it. I love it. I love the model. I think this is the era of football we're in I think the Patriots era is over. Sorry, the other half for people that do our podcasts. I think the Patriots era was over. And I think this is going to be the Battle of the Titans for the next seven years. What do you think,

Rob Kelly: 50:46

man? It's, it's it's unbelievable. I guess it's unbelievable. It's very believable. As we saw

Dave Clarke: 50:51

it coming. You know, we saw that we saw the rise of the bills happening. We knew this was going to be the year where they're really going to come together.

Rob Kelly: 50:57

The Chiefs portion of it though is is I love it that that Tyreke there's still good there's that well, there's all this you know is mahomes as he last year was better, he's you're gonna be able to do without Tyreke hill and he comes out on Sunday Brooks is just slinging the ball all over the place. I think he completed passes to like nine different receivers or something like that. Like it doesn't matter who's out there. He's still going to be throwing know what passes he's still going to be going deep dude, you looked awesome that there's there's a lot of a lot of positive things

Unknown: 51:34

in the league, right? Yeah. And then the bills

Rob Kelly: 51:38

wrote I the emerging Gabriel Davis today. I feel like it's a Too big story for this team because they already have digs. They already have, you know, the runningback group, and Josh Allen, they just never had that, like second real big option. And now Gabriel Davis is a big time guy who makes big plays on big stages. And that's something that wide receiver when you have a guy that can do that. That's so key to have, you know, and then another point to point out for the bills is they won that game against the Rams without your Davies right. So they had a rookie corner, and a second year corner playing as, as they're wanting to instill shut down the Rams. So they're only gonna get better from here. The bills, the bills are my easy pick. I think I got one super well, I mean, you will get that team but they're good. Like they could go, I'm just throwing this out there. I think they started 1213 or no. If they get to, they get to like 10 or whatever. No. 17 and I was definitely

Dave Clarke: 52:36

I will see what happens week six, and they play the chiefs. I think I think, you know, the chiefs are such a well run team. I know that there's this sort of sort of Andy Reid thing of like, oh, he makes it here and then whenever but I don't know if he's ever had talent. Like he has talent right now. I mean, to look at a guy like Klein was Edward sullair, for example, they come running back that I think a lot of people kind of wrote off for you know, not having the size not having this not having that. And being like Yeah, I mean, he's on the Chiefs like that was kind of everybody's attitude about it. He got two touchdown passes in the weekend. He looked fucking great. And he probably would have had another touchdown at the bench because they were basically a garbage timing because like in the third quarter because they absolutely romped on their opponents. I think that both these teams, the teams to watch the seasonality, that's news. Yeah, a good Alright, so we've gone a little bit too long the power rings, which is unsurprising. So I'm gonna do a little tiny pivot to just rattle off the season preview or the week to preview I should say, and we're going to play a little game. I'm going to tell you the matchups and you're going to within two seconds, tell me the winner. Don't overthink it. Don't overthink it. You get the matchups. You tell me the winner, we move on to the next game. Are you ready to play?

Unknown: 53:37

And he is okay,

Dave Clarke: 53:40

here we go DK sizzles quickfire preview charges by the Chiefs today. Who you got got

Unknown: 53:47

to set charges

Dave Clarke: 53:50

were already going to on your you said the charges. Try to say it into the microphone is kind of the whole thing.

Unknown: 53:55

Yeah. The charges. Okay. Good start.

Dave Clarke: 53:59

That was the thing to take him out of the way. Jets Browns who you got.

Unknown: 54:02

Oh my jet. Wow. Okay. I'm Anders Lyons. You got

Rob Kelly: 54:09

you gotta be good at this right. Yeah.

Dave Clarke: 54:12

You're saying so you got

Unknown: 54:14

bucks. You're bigger. We

Dave Clarke: 54:17

started the whole show without biggie. We're on the safe. Panthers Giants game nobody's gonna watch. Panthers. Patriots Steelers. Steelers. Oh two no Steelers. Okay, Bobby coming around on the bandwagon. need someone to watch the season colts Jags coach dolphins, ravens, ravens. Falcons rams. Rams. Seahawks 40 Niners Seahawks. Whoa big Seahawks resurgence i love it i think you call the favored a few times and you thought you had to go for the underdog that's he's laughing because he knows I'm right. Bengals cowboys.

Unknown: 54:52

Oh, Bang Goes by a lot by a lot x since Broncos. Broncos. Cardinals Raiders. Raiders. Bears packers. Bears Bears

Rob Kelly: 55:11

love isn't Monday

Dave Clarke: 55:12

yeah no no that's the Sunday night game so not to Monday night games coming up and I'm gonna hit you with some quick Titans bills. You kind of already said it. Oh yeah. Yeah, and then Vikings Eagles two teams are high on Vikings All right, that's gonna do it for missing the point I am DK sizzle for myself and the real BK Bob Kelly. You have heard it here first, folks. The bills are the best thing we've ever seen. Holy shit. Thanks for listening.