Wrestlemania 37 Preview
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On this episode of missing the point, it's our cheapy WrestleMania 37 previous
Michael Marcangelo:show,
Craig D'Alessandro:we'll preview this year's card give our predictions look back at almost four decades of WrestleMania is with our favorite matches, performers and moments. This is
Michael Marcangelo:Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages, missing the point proudly presents to you the most entertaining and informative wrestling podcast out there. And that is not a prediction. It is a spoiler, and this is cheap heat. Welcome, everyone to another edition of cheap heat. I am your host Michael Mark Angelo and today we are talking about WrestleMania and I cannot do that without rayshawn Buchanan and Craig D'Alessandro Gentlemen, it's WrestleMania season, it's the granddaddy of them all. How are we feeling about this year?
Craig D'Alessandro:Fine.
Rayshawn Buchanan:Yeah, I mean, I'm fine. But I'm also mad that I'm not going to be there in person. You know, I was telling you guys off the air before we started, you know, I went to the last school, I went to WrestleMania, 3334 and 35. Obviously, last year, the COVID couldn't go. So I was hoping to go this year, but you know, has some engineers and some other stuff happened to me, so I couldn't be there. But either way, like, like you said the granddaddy of them all. I'm excited. So let's get into it. Craig,
Michael Marcangelo:you didn't sound too excited.
Craig D'Alessandro:I'm excited that we're starting to get a little bit back to normalcy of our big wrestling things. WrestleMania is outside of the car courses supposed to be at the stadium as it was last year. But of course, being what it was last year was that how the Performance Center but not too excited over the card. Just not so they call a big market segue. So
Michael Marcangelo:what we're gonna do now is we're going to talk about the card data. There's a it's a two night event so we're going to go down with one
Craig D'Alessandro:which by the way, yes, love it.
Michael Marcangelo:Me too.
Craig D'Alessandro:Love that.
Rayshawn Buchanan:Oh, that you love that is so nice. I
Craig D'Alessandro:I can't remember what it was a two or three years ago sitting through a 16 match card for four hours.
Michael Marcangelo:That was WrestleMania 30 to remember it was setting out
Craig D'Alessandro:like that was like a marathon.
Rayshawn Buchanan:Yeah, it was so many moments over obviously like we're getting to that but oh my gosh, Michaels Austin Foley rock coming back. Steena It was crazy.
Michael Marcangelo:Can't wait. So Craig's not too excited. I think some of the positives here is that two nights gives you the chance to have as many superstars as you possibly can as many wrestlers have time not be rushed. I think what for me one of the worst things that you that you see is a six minute mania match that should have been 15. And so night one we're starting with the raw Tag Team Championship matches the new day versus AJ Styles and almost a moss moss edit that Craig amass this will be a licensed debut. It's you know, it's the first event that we have in front of fans in over 13 months. Or we expect so, again, normally what we do here is we talk about what we think's gonna happen and then what should happen. I think AJ Styles should win and omashu win I think but I think what will happen is the new day is going to retain gentlemen Craig you How do you feel about this match
Craig D'Alessandro:this is being portrayed or billed as almost his first real match you know, we've seen him for a while now on WWE television go back to the beginning raw underground where he was a bouncer out outside of Iran underground. So he's been there we've seen a mosque for a while. It's just been recently that now he's been paired with AJ Styles and now he's just been his body guard now all of a sudden that's thrown together this match for the first night of WrestleMania and you know, based on what I've seen out of him there was he is a physically imposing man who is surprisingly quickly athletic, which I've seen before in WWE been tremendously disappointed but I don't feel bad I don't feel bad about this one as I do some of the other matches who wins I think do day retains but you see a lot out of AJ Styles and Hamas
Michael Marcangelo:rayshawn
Rayshawn Buchanan:so I this is actually one of the matches I was actually excited for I love the new day like how I got my hair looking like Kofi Kingston with just without the just without the blonde color love him and Xavier was together but I must say I'm excited to see what the model does though right like obviously we've seen him you know play the bodyguard role and you know he's you know squishing heads outside their room right like the great colleague back and daily he gets a random stereo which was crazy and I think he's gonna he's gonna surprise the people on Saturday night and you know, I'm excited to see him. I actually think today when the title I do I think they young they find a way to win it is going to be something where you know, smaller side of the rain referee gets knocked out or whatever. And then a mosh stone everybody all over the place. And then you know, he couldn't be paired with anyone better than he really is. Maybe outside of when you're in your best entering talent we have in your WWE maybe in all of us. They'll be honest, you know. So I just think that this is gonna be awesome to see. And I'm excited to see what those got to do as a team. I said, we know the new day are like the new day they sell merge, they they're great workers as well. So just this is not taken away from them, but you know, they're gonna 10 1110 lemon time, you know, you know, World Tag Team Champions. I was like, yeah, we've seen that. So I think, you know, hey, there the draw, but let's see AJ Styles in the malls, get that win and see what they can do as a tag team going forward.
Michael Marcangelo:I think this is the closest thing to the Shawn Michaels diesel tendon that we saw back in 9394. Since then, right, I think they're gonna protect, they're gonna make sure AJ Styles is probably the most similar to Shawn that there has been sent Shawn in the WWE. And I think a MOS is going to be well protected in this match. And we're only going to see the things that he can do well, like we did with Ronda Rousey back at WrestleMania was at 3034.
Rayshawn Buchanan:Yeah. 34 Yeah.
Michael Marcangelo:34 with Kurt, very, she they showcase what she could do. I think that this is going to be something along those lines as well. The next match. I think that this has the early ability to steal the show. Seth Rollins versus azzaro if there was ever a time for his desire to have a good one on one Wrestlemania match, it's against Seth Rollins. And now what they've been doing that they've been building Cesaro up, he doesn't just look like this person that's gonna lose Thrall. He might lose. But I don't think he's gonna be hurt. If he does. I cannot wait to see this match. I love the build up. I love that. I love the swing in the backstage area. That was awesome. So I hope Cesaro wins. But I won't be mad if if Rollins wins rayshawn
Rayshawn Buchanan:I want some respect. Give me my respect. And I said I listen. I love Seth Rollins, but it should be says our time is this one time. So like it. Like I said the build has been great. I love seeing Sunday propped up Cesaro probably releases the first time since he was under jack swagger with the real American gimmick when he won the ingenue giant Battle Royale back in 2014. For WrestleMania 30. You know, that's what I felt he was telling at his height. And obviously, you know, he had a great time with the bar with me, Seamus, but just as a singles guy, I felt at that time, he was really at his peak. But now we're starting to get back to that. So you know, it goes back to what you talked about on soccer smacking you know, we talked about getting opportunities. Well, it's here now, Cesaro. So this is our section is going to be there live in effect in Tampa, you better bring it so you better swing, knock it out of the park, whatever you need to do. But I'm excited to see that match. And we know we know South you know for no pun intended, set the set the Hampshire bring it down. They are going to they're going to burn the house down on Saturday. And that probably won't be dimensioned at night for night one who wins? I think it's our wins. I guess it's our
Craig D'Alessandro:Craig, this has the potential definitely, like you said to be the if not the best wrestling match on this card. And it's probably out of all these probably the least hyped out of all of them. And I feel you know, sometimes that's a good thing, because it's a match that's come together, you know, rather quickly. But it's a match that just has so much potential. I'm not sure if anyone watched takeover last night of NXT. But a match I came together really quickly to muscle champion, Walter, oh man wasn't near the main event card. And you know, I think that this is going to be the you know, there's always a match where it doesn't matter where it is that it could be early, or right in the middle of the match you go. It's a match when you're leaving the arena or you turn off the television that you still talk about. I think that this one has a potential bhiwandi is either sufferance and sorrow. sorrow is the best. Just the best in ring performer in the company right now in my personal opinion.
Unknown:Wow,
Rayshawn Buchanan:it's okay. cyphers
Craig D'Alessandro:He's an amazing athlete. And I just, I think that for sure. I think this match has potential just blow the roof off.
Michael Marcangelo:kind of feels like it could be you know, something I'm actually going to talk about later is the savage steamboat, right, the Hogan Andre talk those people into the building. And that match is what people talk about. Now, obviously, the moment where our Hogan slams Andre great. We'll talk about that too. But that this match between Rawlinson Cesaro has everything that you need all the ingredients necessary to be the match in 15 years from now we're talking about you just didn't expect it but man, are you glad you were there for
Rayshawn Buchanan:right exactly. And this is just a quick aside because Craig brought it up. So I think I said smsc earlier, Mike, shout out to Rico Gonzalez for winning the women's NFC Championship I saw heard and dusty rose passing and I was like, Why is she not on the main roster? This girl's a beast and clearly a triple you saw what I saw. Now they put the title on her so go head over ko you're not next to her right now. So codeset you awesome. So I had to say that she's she's great.
Michael Marcangelo:thoughts. next match. Shane McMahon versus Braun strowman in a steel cage match. Okay. Yeah. The build to this is that brown straw man that is a big dumb guy and Shane's a rich smart guy great right like it's not it's it's nothing that I truly care about. I think I can speak for all of us when the part of this match that we care about is what how. What is Shane? Is she gonna jump off the top of the cage through the table on the outside or what the hell is he gonna fall off have to sell it because for me again, that's my catchphrase. This match doesn't do anything for me. I actually hope Shane wins I'm over bronze strawman. I'm not last year when that Goldberg match. Sorry man. Like you. He can't
Rayshawn Buchanan:he was throwing into that though.
Michael Marcangelo:Sure.
Rayshawn Buchanan:But he was I'm saying he was wrong was like I'm not coming in. So it was like okay, Brian, come back. Bring your wife back down to Tampa to tape. I mean, it's a template so it's in a PDF so Orlando to the PC and they throw him in there and anyone I mean, he will be he could in that moment.
Michael Marcangelo:Just I can tell you that there's only been one bronze showman match that I've actually liked and I couldn't believe that I did and it was him versus Brock Lesnar Great Balls of Fire is that right back in
Rayshawn Buchanan:2008 2017
Michael Marcangelo:and it because it was really I mean Lesnar can take a hit. He can't hit Shane that way. So I you know, I hope Shane wins. I know Brian's gonna win Craig your thoughts on this match I before you say you hate it and it sucks already have
Craig D'Alessandro:Yeah, right. Yeah, this match to me it's just been thrown out of nowhere you know, it's the classic bully versus you know, trying to you know, you know the want to say a little guy bronze Romans enormous
Michael Marcangelo:while they're painting him to me meant a little
Craig D'Alessandro:Yeah, they're painting him to be stupid and be bullied and it'd be like, trying to overcome the bullies. So this is this feels like the masses, like targeted for like five year olds. Yeah, I mean, they've been targeting Nickelodeon kids with this. Anyway, the
Michael Marcangelo:Fleming Ray was there Ray probably was just cheering his ass off when Stroman picked some seven year old out of the crowd to be a tag team champion with the New Orleans right I
Rayshawn Buchanan:was actually pissed. Oh, that's easy for me. Yeah. So hey, shout out Nicholas. You know your time tag team champion was great. But it was funny what was going on because he was running around and I was up top so obviously it wasn't picking anyone from urban setting. But it was just like I was expecting someone to come like a wrestling maker returned to come back and champion
Unknown:for weeks.
Rayshawn Buchanan:I'm like, yo, you go pick some, you know, some little brat out the crowd. championship like and my thing is what has made that cooler. Let him pin him. Let him pick you slammed them. Let him come pin he'll never forget that. That's what you do. Don't sit there let him stand there behind the render roll. I don't know we don't do that. But you know, Yeah, I do. So just a very tire story. I do think it can be an OK match mainly because of what shaving man is going to do. Now the same is underrated performance in my opinion. I'll argue with anybody but this also reminds me of what happened back at WrestleMania 34. With the story between Naya Jax and Alexa Bliss right
Craig D'Alessandro:oh god yeah,
Rayshawn Buchanan:yeah with my girl Mickey James, you know, making all their fun and talking all the trash all late. Cool. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And it's just yeah, you know, next thing you know, your knife has been put in that spot of like, okay, like everyone. I mean, in that crowd as much as people would love the Lexa book. They would they was ready for Naya to beat her ass and he did and she wanted to see one sample said that night so that's what's going to happen it's kind of weird making bronze someone as big as a bronze to be the face so to speak. But I mean, here we are in a few days have been a face coming into that match and yeah, you know, hit on what a slam night hopefully two or three and yeah, I think Brian gets it done those outside of the night.
Michael Marcangelo:I think it's dangerous because in those situations Alexa was like in the situation you just figured out there Alexa by far was is the better in ring performer right but now I can hold her own on the microphone and she's an aside from what she's irreparably damaging Becky Lynch's face. She's pretty she's okay in the ring. Brian, he's fine in the ring. But people their first live their first WWE event in over a year. If Shane is getting his ass whooped, and then jumps off the top of the cage, they're gonna cheer for him. You You can't hate him when he's in the rain because you understand that the things that he's doing to his body. So I think that I think they're gonna that's gonna be an interesting mix. This next match. You know, you wouldn't be WrestleMania without celebrity interference. Bad Bunny and Damian priest who I really like, versus The Miz and Morrison hate hate it. So hey, I just want to say right now, I think I was happy that the MS won the title of whether it was for a week or whatever it was, he deserves it. He's been he's he has just been a stallion for this company for so long. JOHN Morrison is a great worker. I think Damian priests is he has all the things that you want to be a main event. I think Matt again, bad buddy's gonna surprise you. Yeah, they're only going to do things that make him look good. But maybe you'd rather have someone else that's been training their entire life as a professional wrestler. I know on this card, you get that payday. But I think bad Bunny and Damian priests when I think bad Bunny and john Morrison actually have probably the most interactions in this in this match I've maybe buddy will knock out the Michigan and legit punch him in the face again. But I think you should prepare yourself to come out of this match and say wow Mr. Bunny actually trained so that's my pick God crap
Craig D'Alessandro:Hasn't he been training for this match
Michael Marcangelo:for what seven hearing? Yeah,
Craig D'Alessandro:yeah that's what I've been hearing too. I you know, you know, and they've done a really good job of this they're continuing a trend where they're trying to bring in a really big popular with the moment celebrity live. I've been new for a while like they did have Snooki a million years ago. And you know, Snooki didn't look bad on that match either. I understand the politics behind that matches terrible. Yeah, this match. I don't hate I love Damian priests. I hate what they did for them is he was a WWE Champion what a month ago and john Morrison's done nothing since he's come back but Ben Mizell you know sidekick who and you know john Morrison is probably one of the best performers athletes and that they've ever had. But I actually think this is gonna be one of the more entertaining matches I don't feel bad about this one this one I feel pretty good. I hate the way it was set up. You know, a month ago the MS was WWE Champion you know beating been Drew McIntyre. Yep. And now you know two weeks ago he's in a bunny costume doing a music video it's embarrassing.
Michael Marcangelo:Yeah, so like maybe that this isn't like maybe a bad bunny doesn't while you like like lt did against bam bam Bigelow, but it's I think it's gonna be good and you're sneaky references spot on. That match wasn't a great metric. Everyone remembers her her was it. Your cartwheels into the elbow when she was teaming with Trish. That's good. That's what you want to remember. Right? You don't seem too happy about this matchup give it to us.
Rayshawn Buchanan:So I saw Okay, I liked Damien Frese right like I liked his showing at the Royal Rumble he's done some good stuff in nixie now then being a ra he's awesome likes that main event guy reminds me of a young eggs kinda right so I'm cool with guys he's gonna be a madman guy. I was actually cool with lashley being Domestos I know what talking about his match later on but I was fine with that. I guess it just kind of told the story but first john Morris goes that's on him. You know coming back didn't have to come back to be the Meza psychic. You'd have to do that. Like say he is a hell of a performer Why come back just to get back with your best friend but at some point I would have been better off seeing the match between them too you know that's the friends turns on them that have been beautiful Who knows? Maybe that happens on Saturday night maybe jump more say causes in the match Miss says What are you doing on the A Lister? He smacks him we have a match for backlash whatever I don't know that I'm just in my creative mind. That's what I think was happening it could happen but I know it probably won't. I mean, and I get I mean, maybe bad buddy maybe there's a couple of slashes you know like a frog slash or whatever. I guess that would be cool but I'm like come on this honestly and I hate to say this because I know a disrespect to The Miz and Morrison and even Damien phrase but this is a kickoff show match. This is a kickoff show. This is not something I want to see. Like if I was there I live in hot see the old you're putting this in the actual card like put this on the kickoff show. Nice little entertaining five to 10 minute match. Oh, bad buddy. Come down there. Oh vimana I saw you know jumping off a call a day. I don't want to see this. I don't wanna see a 1520 minute match for bad money on a car by me. Hey, anyway, we're gonna see it and I hope Miz and Morrison when you could I don't want to see he bad buddy getting his hand raised at WrestleMania that to me that'd be even more disrespectful
Michael Marcangelo:i think but isn't what you just said like if it was if it hadn't been for bad bunny maybe these three guys are not on the cards and they don't get a paycheck right so which is
Rayshawn Buchanan:also wild.
Michael Marcangelo:Yeah. So conversely, like maybe you want to see someone else get his spot but had it not been for him. Maybe they don't get that payday. So it's good.
Rayshawn Buchanan:Well, Miss Morrison. Damian Brees may not have been misquoted.
Michael Marcangelo:Yeah for sure. The next match on Saturday night is the match that I have been waiting for. I've been talking about since our premiere episode for Survivor Series. It is the legit boss versus the estp of WWE Bianca Bel Air for the SmackDown Women's Championship.
Unknown:I honestly
Michael Marcangelo:Honestly, this should close the show the first night I think that these two First of all, I think Sasha Banks is the greatest in ring performer as far as a female goes since Trish and Lita. I don't think she can be touched, she can sell. It's believable when she sells something. It's believable. When she makes Bally's number one fan cry and steals the sign in NXT TakeOver and Bianca Bel Air she might be just as good. She might be better in terms of raw athleticism. So I hope my hope for this match is that they get 20 minutes they go out there they still the show. I'm pulling for the boss. But I think Bianca is gonna win. Craig.
Craig D'Alessandro:I owe you an apology for this one because We are back at our royal rumble show. We did the who's going to win the who's going to win the beat. Yeah, he told me he said who's going to win the woman's Royal Rumble? I said Alexa Bliss. You said Bianca Bel Air. I thought it was too soon for her. She had just come up to the main roster, what weeks before? And you know, she came out what was she number two or she came out early? Oh,
Rayshawn Buchanan:yeah, she was, you know, yeah, she Yeah, she came on number two. Yeah,
Craig D'Alessandro:yeah. And she just ran the gauntlet. And she has dominance, she is living up to all the hype that they had given her and she deserves this spot right now. And I'm not particularly a fan of the way they built this matchup because it was the same thing every week. I'm the boss. I'm the best. I'm the boss. I'm the best over and over and over. But still, at the end of the day, we're all looking forward to a Wrestlemania match. And I do believe that this is going to be the main event I think they're going to politic there go like this all the way to the the main event spot and there'll be Sasha Banks versus Bianca Bella, the main event of the night one. I just don't see any way Bianca Bella loses.
Michael Marcangelo:Just because you said that I think that this match is probably gonna open the show, but continue. Well, that's not a bad thing. Right.
Craig D'Alessandro:If you're on a WrestleMania card, you want to either want to either open the card or you want to close the card. Chris Jericho said that on podcast was on a podcast recently. So he is and he's dead right about that too. But I still think this is the master closes the night.
Unknown:Right? Well,
Rayshawn Buchanan:I'm all here for the better stuff is the best the E s to WWE. Miss Bianca BelAir. I have I am on the hype train. I co signed with you Mike. I said she was gonna win and as well on that show that we did a couple months back. So I am excited for her. This is her time. This is her moment. And once again sossaman should be there should be there. This is not going to ruin her career. If she loses too so Bianca BelAir Do you need new blood like we've seen Sasha, we've seen Bailey, we've seen Charlotte, we've seen Becky Linds, who, hey, Becky, I miss you. I'll bet you that you come back the night after WrestleMania I really do that. That would be awesome. You know, she's definitely miss but it's like he said new blood in there. So I'm hoping that Bianca finds a way to win. I have her winning and I say to me, hey, they should get 20 million, but I don't know. It'd be great if there's no, I don't think there's any stipulations in it right now. Yeah, just right. Yes. Okay, cool. So yes, Okay, perfect. So that's that we don't know who to show and no, don't give them 20 minutes like Sasha's basically delivered and every pay per view match she's been in she has always retained I don't know how that goes. So I would say never know that. It's happened. It's how to
Michael Marcangelo:react recently. Yes.
Rayshawn Buchanan:I'm like, No, I'm saying but now it doesn't happen often, obviously, you know, but I'm expecting kind of the I feel like it's gonna be a mix between what we saw a takeover 2015 between Bailey and what we saw in 2016 between her and Charlotte, Atlanta, so it's gonna be between a mix of that. So if I get 20% of that brought Bravo. But like I said, I'm here for the ESC is WWE Loki, not even low key high key got a crush. I'm a fan. She's a beast. Oh, he's
Craig D'Alessandro:married bra. Yeah,
Rayshawn Buchanan:that's fine. I got a crush. I say I'm trying to help her performance, although
Craig D'Alessandro:she makes her own gear too, which
Rayshawn Buchanan:is? Exactly, exactly.
Michael Marcangelo:And I think what you say Craig, like maybe it's too soon. I think for nine out of 10 people. You're right. Yeah. But she's infectious. Like you see her and her smile and her athleticism. Right? Not in the negative way. rayshawn. But really, her personality is infectious. And you just want to like her. And there's just no way around it. So for all of us here at GP, we want that to be the main event. Yeah. And we're telling you that even if it doesn't go on last, that they're going to put on the main event match and they will that I think they're going to steal the show night one day will be the thing you're talking about. And if they're not, it's because they weren't allowed to be fair. I agree. Yeah, agreed. Yep. Moving on to the final match of night one, the WWE Championship match the almighty Bobby lashley vs Drew McIntyre. If Bobby lashley loses I riot. Oh, that's where I'm at. Because that man has been waiting far too long to be the champion, WWE Champion. He was handed some bs CW championship back when he was feuding with Vince in 2007 after umaga I get it he wasn't maybe they didn't they didn't think he was ready yet. Right? Not
Rayshawn Buchanan:that wasn't ready.
Michael Marcangelo:Yeah, sure. How about 2010 or 2009 when he had the Great American Bash match against john cena when he should have won that for the WB championship, whatever. I think they're hurt business should not have been broken up. together. That's been one of the hottest gimmicks in the entire company. But if they broke it up for the last 30 to retain, I'm fine with it. I love Drew. He did a great thing last year during probably the hardest time in the company. He's unbelievable champion. But there's no more unbelievable badass, he'll champ And then Bobby lashley
Craig D'Alessandro:absolutely and Bobby lashley deserves everything that he's gotten so far. He deserves to be WWE Champion. I'm not taking anything away from him. He was handed some garbage storylines for the last year and a half that thing with launa and and ruse IV and also, Oh, I should know who it is, but I'm forgetting it now. lib Morgan as well. That was that should have been something great. That's what I
Michael Marcangelo:did forget about that.
Craig D'Alessandro:Yeah, exactly. That's unfortunate. That storyline had did have a lot of potential. But they just muffed it up so many different ways. He was handed, he's just been handed some bad storylines for guy that just did not deserve it. In, you know, in the end, you covered it too, you know, from the CW days to that thing with to that thing of umaga versus Bobby lashley, with Donald Trump and Vince in the hair, and having to leave the company and just dominating wherever you went after that. And then also, when he was doing it, he was in Bella Torre to just Yep, how many people there. And now, you know, when he's in his late 30s, early 40s, he's in the best shape of his life. Not that he's ever been out of shape. He deserves every bit of this. And, you know, it's a bit unfortunate. I don't think Drew McIntyre should be in this match. But I think this should be a squash. Bobby lashley does talk in that ring in terror Drew McIntyre apart. I
Michael Marcangelo:don't know about a squash because I believe that for everything that Drew McIntyre has done over the last year, he deserves to have an amendment, match it and hear the crowd cheering. But for me, again, you put you give Bobby lashley a manager like MVP, like just a mouthpiece. He's unstoppable and to seal on a ratio and phrases, which I love to do. I'm here for it. Like I don't, there's no reason that he should lose good, right?
Rayshawn Buchanan:Yeah, I'm torn with this match. Because obviously, I agree with every point you guys have made about, you know, lastly, deserving to be here. And, you know, like, like I alluded to, he wasn't ready back in the late 2000s. You know, obviously, you know, his most memorable moment, obviously, was the hair versus hair match. The emphasis there were like, I feel lucky heifers here, but the billionaire match. Yeah, yeah, whatever. That's what I remember what I don't remember too many other matches. He had them he has some great matches in another company in TNA. But that wasn't you know, that wasn't in the main spot light, but I wasn't a fan when Joe McIntyre came back a few years back and also I saw that meshing had it gets Roman at WrestleMania 35. And I was like, oh, like he's okay. All right, but I got reinvested in him. The 2020 Royal Rumble, and seeing them No, play more cake, Brock Lesnar. You know, with the help of ricochet, who was another guy there, certainly undervaluing but I won't I won't go on that soapbox. Tonight. It's um, it was I was like, Oh, okay. Like, clearly across behind him. He's ready. He's now ready for this moment when it I mean, the crowd would have erupted and untapped. But that last year, when he hit them with that three or four acclaimed workers in the crowd would have went nuts. So that's why he just added once again, the matches he ever ordered. Like he carried WWE in the year of the pandemic, he can't he carried them. So he definitely deserves to be there. Like I don't know if they would have had it in that match. Yeah, let's say they've made it a triple threat or whatever like they did with you know, with edge rains at night and day O'Brian. But man, I'm, I'm excited to see this match. I'm torn. But I do I think he deserves to have his moment. And I but I also get if they choose to put you over for him to have that moment in front of the crowd. I do. And maybe it continues a feud. But sometimes when I'm going to go into bank attire, I think they're going to give him this moment that he missed last year. I think they're going to give it to them at that time.
Craig D'Alessandro:Drew Drew McIntyre is probably the CO MVP of whatever that whatever the hell we're going to call this last year with where there were no crowds basically, it you know, it's a tie between him and asked for, you know, whoever just, you know, power through all that. But still, part of me just thinks that this is not the match that Bobby lashley wants, I know that for a fact, the match the Bobby lashley wants the match that everybody wants, and everybody knows what that's going to be and it's what I thought was gonna happen two weeks ago, and it turns out it was Baron Corbin instead. It turns out it's it's should be and we all know Bobby lashley versus Brock Lesnar. Yep.
Rayshawn Buchanan:I think that happens this summer slam.
Michael Marcangelo:Fans Yeah, I think so. You know,
Rayshawn Buchanan:they haven't fans for this day, they will have fans by August fans
Michael Marcangelo:because after mania they're not having fans for they're not touring or having fans for raw Smackdown for a
Rayshawn Buchanan:while. We'll say above for the paper food. Oh, I can't wait for a payment because they'll do I think for summer slam by summertime, depending on where they where we are as a country. I think that's legit thing to have. And yeah, like you say everyone wants to see Brock versus Baba, that would be awesome.
Michael Marcangelo:There are so many stories to tell in that match, right? Because that's a real fight that you want to see it in Bella tour and it's a real match that you want to in WWE,
Craig D'Alessandro:I can, I can book it for you right now. You know, him and Bobby lashley are basically the same kind of person. There's only really only one difference between them. And they were booked completely differently. Yep,
Rayshawn Buchanan:yeah, yeah, True. True. Yep.
Michael Marcangelo:So that'll do it for night. One Night Two kicks off Sunday night. United States Championship match riddle, Matt riddle. I know that. They've loved dropping first or last names. Versus Seamus. I love Seamus. I actually love Matt riddle. His character sucks. There. I
Craig D'Alessandro:mean, don't get me, bro. Because
Michael Marcangelo:I know I love the bro thing. I love the sandals or the foot, whatever. Right? But now they're having him forget lines on TV because I just truly believe Vince doesn't understand like that. You can smoke marijuana and not be a forgetful. stoner. Like, you know what I mean? And so this is their thing. athletically, this should be a really hard hitting match it maybe it'll make me feel differently about it after but I want Seamus to win. I want riddles to turn heel hard, fast. Because I think that if you do that, if you give him like, like just a little bit of the straight edge society that punk had back in the day, he could be a badass heel that people actually hate so I'm here for Seamus winning and for info riddle, his career taking off.
Craig D'Alessandro:I was gonna say How the hell do you turn Matt riddle into a heel? He i'd you know, I just can't imagine any BS. You know, let's be honest. His gimmick is just these high all the time. Yeah. And then you know, and I didn't think of the straight up society, but if you want to go that route,
Unknown:I can buy that. And he's a legit badass, by the way, but he's Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So who wins this fight? Correct.
Craig D'Alessandro:I think it's gonna be retel this is just, you know, I like Vince likes him. He's had a lot of backstage heat on him though for various different reasons. But I just think that the way it's going you know, this Seamus is at the point where he just putting people over I think this is just a stepping stone for Matt for
Michael Marcangelo:having great matches, by the way, his match against McIntyre. Was it Fastlane Yeah, that's a legit match. That is a main event of WrestleMania over SummerSlam or Royal Rumble. So I think at 40 something years old, he's still putting in the work and he's the best that he's ever been in WWE rate. So riddle versus Seamus, how amped up are you?
Rayshawn Buchanan:This is the other measure. I'm not hype about this. This is the baddest of the bad bunny matchup overnight to In my opinion, honestly, if you're going to get put Seamus on a card, you should have put him in a triple threat. But I'm gonna actually put that Lastly, MacIntyre in Seamus I think that'd be cool to see but excuse me they chose not to can't have two triple threats for the title. Yeah, I mean, do whatever you want to do though they had two nights ago three nights and do whatever you want to do. Right? But I just think to me, for me for me
Michael Marcangelo:gimmick infringement.
Rayshawn Buchanan:Yeah, gimmick refresh. Yeah. We do it all the time. I just think that this was also another this is the kickoff show match. I'm not like this is not something I could care less about scenesters 14 minutes. This is a kickoff show match that made the card because you're sweating tonight so as a call let's go with someone so much chance like I mean, I get it it's it's I don't ask him to defend it. But I'm like, missus wanted championship on the kickoff show roster mania. Yep, he did. Actually, I think it was the same title. It was the United States every ship. He wanted me to get 29 which is an underrated show. I just watched that whole show. It was a really good. It's my first time seeing it the whole way through, honestly, but you know, we'll get to that later on. But yeah, Alex, I'm not interested. But I mean, I guess I think just for the matches he's putting in lately given to same as Dan steppingstone. Yeah, he's the guy who's the guy. He's the horse. He's the guy has been here. He's the guy who's been putting in that work the last few years. I mean,
Michael Marcangelo:think about the last year dude, like his matches with Hardy. Well, Jeff Hardy went way back in the performance and when the pandemic started, I mean, that like they're a barroom match, which was I mean, it was awesome. I think he should have been a guy that you that you did not expect to be in 2020 and now in 2021, to be put on the notches that he is, and he's doing it so reward him whatever you need to do reward him the next match another celebrity hopefully he did not get the focal point of this match. Kevin Owens versus Sandy's in now here's why I'm in trade. Yeah, love Sami Zayn, I love this whole conspiracy theory gimmick love it. But I I write I have loved Kevin Owens since obviously his NXT days but the minute he debuted and he won the United States Championship from john cena was at Elimination Chamber one year when it was a one off event. Amazing, right? And I don't know if you guys know this for those people at home, you know, you're going to be listened to this on a Friday on your way to work or on your way home from work or wherever, whatever you're doing. If you're driving, go peep the set for WrestleMania. They have a pirate ship built into the entrance. Last year, Kevin was on the record saying he wants to jump off of it. So there's going Add a moment and this match is gonna make you say holy shit or Oh my God, I hope Sami Zayn wins. I think he needs more than Kevin Owens. But again, a match for I'm not gonna be mad, regardless of who wins. As long as Logan Paul doesn't steal the show. Well, he's
Craig D'Alessandro:gonna be involved in it somehow. Obviously, he's a celebrity for night, too. I think it's going to be a unfortunately because I do not like him. He's going to be a very, you know, big focus and he is a very athletically gifted person. Let's not forget that. But as far as the match goes, I go watch. You know, we were talking about this before we started, I go watch Kevin Oh, and Sami Zayn fight forever. They have never had a bad match even before they came into WWE. The chemistry between them is just phenomenal. Yeah, go
Michael Marcangelo:back and watch any Kevin Steen El Generico matches. And it's amazing, right? Oh, well actually pause. Craig, who's gonna win?
Craig D'Alessandro:I would like Kevin Owens to win. He hasn't won in a long time. But I think that I think it's finally time for the conspiracy theorists to win one here.
Michael Marcangelo:Yes. Yeah.
Rayshawn Buchanan:Yeah, I'm just having this match. I mean, I know. I say, you know, we kind of got a nice little glimpse of WrestleMania 32. And that ladder match for the ice title was, you know, bring that back to Okay, that was that was also awesome shout. Zack Ryder. You know what, bro? But it was? Yeah, I'm excited for this match that their deck is still showing night too. Yeah, they can steal the show. Kevin was never disappoints me. Never. I can't think of a bad match. He's been a part of same thing with San Jose. But me. I've drawn more to Kevin Owens. I just felt like keys. One could I you know, he looks more like me. And then they taught us a lot of traffic. rayshawn you know, that I gravitate to guys that have bigger
Craig D'Alessandro:context.
Rayshawn Buchanan:Yeah. That'll get you some time. That Yeah, exactly. Right here. Right now. But yeah, I'm excited for this match. Man. I think that Kevin was, you know, he put over several rounds last year. You know that that was that was a good match last year. And I think that I think Kevin always gets it. He gets it done.
Michael Marcangelo:Kevin Owens won last year.
Unknown:Oh, yeah. I thought that was
Michael Marcangelo:that that really catapulted Rollins into the Messiah gimmick like really catapulted him,
Rayshawn Buchanan:which was so awful. Oh, God. So
Michael Marcangelo:so moving on to a match that so terrible of two people that that absolutely deserve to be on the card. It's about time that they're going to be focused on it's Biggie versus Apollo cruise. And I tell you what, like athletically they have the ability to seal the show there's a lot of those matches on the on this card. Craig, I know that you said that this card sucks. And you're gonna take a big humping, you know what all over it, but it's actually a pretty good card with a lot of talent. Apollo Cruz's new gimmick At first, I thought probably what everyone thought, like, come on men's events. It's not a great look in 2021 to be doing what you're doing with an African American, you know what I mean? But however, it works for Apollo. He sounds great. He looks he's taking seriously he's not just this. You know, this run of the mill high flyer that's just happy to be here. So I love biggie. I think he's going to be double w champion someday. I'm here for Apollo Cruz winning this match and I want him to win it decisively. I don't want there to be any doubt. I want it to be clean. 123 Good, right.
Rayshawn Buchanan:You wanted this? You made me keep ethical cruise. You made me less. This is the best version of Biggie sister five count like salsa. Oh my god, like Oh, boy was declared and he's like, Listen, man, this is the best version of Biggie we have seen his serious his focus. He is locked in. Like I'm sorry, Apollo cruise. You're cool, bro. Like the new gimmick. Listen, man. I hope Biggie goes off and just and finds a way to get it done. Like, let him retain this like I'm begging you to go on a serious run as for singles as a singles guy. Yeah, this time. I'm sorry. I've heard crews Listen, you just hear my guy is great. You know my guy walay my twin while is going to come out and perform Biggie song you can't be stopped. He can't be stopped. This is going down. biggie. Listen, man, I can't even talk. But this might be my favorite match of the night. It just might be because I said big Biggie just as at the top of his game. And he can go he definitely go and I said the promos. I said you made me do this. You've made me get biblical. You wanted this. You wanted this as weapon. And that's why Apollo Crews Sunday you want this ass weapon. You wanted it? You want some come get some
Michael Marcangelo:over? Yeah, it makes you wonder if Vince watches talking smack man because months ago, the MS and Biggie were on there and the MS said, I just want you to be more serious. I want you to be taken seriously and less of the joking around. And now what you've seen is a serious biggie. And it works. Craig, what are your thoughts on this matter? And who do you want to win?
Craig D'Alessandro:You know, for the longest time, I never really thought big he would turn into anything. You know, I remember when he was good and whatever. I think it was still up CW at the time, but then he got brought out with dodge Ziggler and AJ Lee, AJ Lee, and he was just, you know, basically big guy enforcer. And I thought that's when he was in Las Vegas time. And then, you know, they did that thing with the new day, which I thought was gonna be complete disaster when that started what in 2013 2014? Turns out, I was 100% wrong on that one.
Unknown:We were all wrong. And we were Yeah,
Craig D'Alessandro:I remember that. I remember those vintages I was like, Oh, that's saying that event is wrong, is that you guys gonna be preachers and everyone hated it. And then it just turned into something. But go ahead. And when I think we all knew eventually, it was time for someone that was going to drift away from the new day, when Kofi Kingston was WWE Champion. Love that whole thing with him. You know, sorry, I'll leave. But that just happens. Eventually. Someone's gonna break away from the new day. And I think we all kind of knew in our hearts, it was gonna be biggie. Yeah, I was worried how he was going to do on his own. But then this feud happened. And it's just the best Biggie I have ever seen him do. This promos have just been phenomenal. His in week is in ring work has just been so. So good. And he's still biggie. He's still funny. Yeah, he's still that same personnel, he still got that same personality.
Unknown:If that switch, right.
Craig D'Alessandro:I am just, I'm looking forward to this one.
Michael Marcangelo:Who wins? Maybe so who wins?
Craig D'Alessandro:I still I think this is I think this is the first of a series of matches between these two. And I think Biggie retains and maybe Apollo down the line takes it but as far as WrestleMania goes, I
Michael Marcangelo:think Biggie takes it. It's tough for a heel to chase a face, right? So I don't but I mean, I want to see as many of these matches as possible, because I think these two finally are being showcased, and they deserve it. next match, we have the fiend Bray Wyatt, the returning burned alive fiend, pre wired versus Randy Orton. Now hopefully, Randy Orton doesn't get straddled by Alexa Bliss again. So he doesn't have any problems at home with the wife. But for me, I think that this match is going to be tough.
Rayshawn Buchanan:That's not a bad thing.
Michael Marcangelo:But yeah, easy. DDP. That's a good thing. But I think Randy Orton is the most gifted worker in the business over the last 20 years, right, or from the last 20 years. Right. So he started in 2000. Through now, I think everything that he does in the ring he makes look easy. And his psychology is way better now than it used to be. My fear is, these two don't mesh well. Like we've seen it right, like the Firefly, whatever match that he burned the house down. That was terrible. And their Wrestlemania match was not great, either. Maybe I'm wrong. I think Bray White's gonna win. I think he needs to win this match. Because if he comes back from being burnt alive, and loses, then how do you take that character seriously moving forward? It's intriguing. It could be horrifying to watch for from a wrestling standpoint, though, but I'm gonna take the theme, right?
Rayshawn Buchanan:I'm speechless. And I'm just like, like you said, we saw this at WrestleMania 33. It doesn't work. Like people were going to the bathroom. I want to go get my nachos and hot dogs during this match. It was terrible. Like it's a joke. It's a joke. Like I even went by a walk they made Queen shot Mel Hey, how you doing? Like I met her? Like I'm like, this is not going to be a good match like and we know Alexa but somehow someone's gonna get involved you know? Hopefully not to the point that you just said about that's why you know, because that's a whole different that's the whole that's a whole that's a whole nother you know, let him and no Do not let him
Michael Marcangelo:laminate. Like that's real heat that he that
Rayshawn Buchanan:he has Rohit. Right. Exactly. So, yeah, sorry, can we love you? But don't man like I'm just I'm not excited for this match at all. Like, I mean, I like the fiend character. I was more excited what they did last year with him and john cena. That was actually awesome. I think it actually surprised you what they're doing Oh, send him any match. What are we gonna do with this? Whatever, but they I was at that Smackdown that he came on and challenged that I just moved back to Boston at that time. And I was like, oh, okay, I'm going to Tampa gonna see. Gonna see. Gonna see Brian and john. Nope. Thanks, COVID But uh, yeah, listen, I'm not excited for this match. But I mean, since you know since for content, because we can't have enough of that. We have to pick a winner. I'm going to go with my guy, Randy Orton.
Michael Marcangelo:Oh, God, they can't happen. That's a character killer.
Rayshawn Buchanan:Oh, well. Hey, listen, I'm rk Oh, baby. I know where I want to see him. I want to see like a WrestleMania 31 type of arcade. Oh, you know, maybe maybe out of the system. Avigail holds them up. Closer. 123 I have voices in my head. That's what I want to hear. I don't want to hear let him in.
Michael Marcangelo:crack.
Craig D'Alessandro:Edge. Christian Ric Flair. The Big Show, Shawn Michaels. These are all people that were involved in probably one of the most exciting storylines. In the entire pandemic era of WWE. It was the return of the legend killer. Yeah, Randy Orton was put on top of the mountain like he rightly deserves to be. So SummerSlam he loses to Drew McIntyre after he just won the after he just won the championship. Hello, myself, Drew McIntyre. He loses it immediately and immediately for the next six months is starting to fuel Bray Wyatt. This is this is just like this is just like malpractice. It's one of your top performers of all time. It's so bad. He had two phenomenal matches against edge. He had this great feud where he became the legend killer, the best wrestler on the planet. They had a match to determine that. And now it's themed for six months and fiend again and he's probably going to lose on a squash match to the theme, because that's the only way you can sell the feed. The feed is just supposed to be just someone who comes in and destroy somebody. That's it. If you want to you want a wrestling match bringing a firefly brightway he can wrestle a match the feed he comes in and he destroys people. That's it. That's all he does. Who wins? Bray widen the swash.
Michael Marcangelo:Oh, that's not true. A match. It's going pretty unrecognized is the raw Women's Championship match? Oscar versus Rhea Ripley? Lavasa? I think Vince has a really hard time with her. He does. He hasn't quite figured out how to make her like the bad ass kicker that she could be that she wasn't NXT
Rayshawn Buchanan:I think oh, no, no, I
Michael Marcangelo:think so. Hold on. I think she's shown a lot of personality here. But Rhea Ripley. It's her time. She should have beat Charlotte last year. She is a big she has everything she can work she looks the part so I can reapply get out there be daska she should have a new streak. Good right you want to drop me good?
Rayshawn Buchanan:No, I want to make your point about the point that shit about Vince not known to Oscar. No He ruined that chance in 2018 when she Wonder Woman's wherever the first woman's were rumble you know her it's just a winner that night. And it's like okay, nobody's ready for Oscar. And you have a loose a Charlotte I really Yeah, exactly. I'm just saying I'm like how I'm invading if you're gonna have a losing streak eventually once you have that build whether it's a summer slam even Survivor Series and then you can say I finally I you know each sleep conquer repeat whatever you can make something for a shot at that moment, but I might that's when that's where Oscar died was in 2018 that that version of her died then yeah, she puts on great matches every week and you know, she had so then going with character saying I was no longer with the company but that that's when it happened like they ruin her character but I mean, I'm with you is a Riverside She's awesome. You know, the nightmares a great character. And yeah, I think they would have put her over last year had they had fans understand at that moment. I just think they wouldn't they wouldn't the safe route and kept the boat on Charlotte. But now they can't. And I think that you know, as Austin gets a little older I think that this is you know, even though she can start really work. She go. Yeah, she could definitely go well, why not put why not put the belt on reapply and see what what she can do. So I'm excited to see what that matches. does. And yeah, it won't disappoint. It won't disappoint.
Craig D'Alessandro:Oh, that's what I was like. Okay, I can tell you, you know, a funny story about me is I can tell you the future I can see two days into the future. And this match to me is where Oscars reign ended. She's I don't think she lost it since after money in the bank, right? No,
Michael Marcangelo:yeah, Sasha was raw Women's Champion for like a week or whatever. Number one she was with Bailey, but she didn't really lose it.
Craig D'Alessandro:Right. But But since she was basically gifted the belt from Becky Lynch, she didn't lose it or anything. Right. So I think that I do think Starla was originally booked to beat Oscar again at WrestleMania. And in Oh, eight. And you know, real leader Rhea Ripley was, you know, coming up the main roster anyway. So just put her in that spot. That's fine. She's phenomenal.
Michael Marcangelo:She's great.
Craig D'Alessandro:I'm not a huge fan of her. But I know she's a great worker. So I'm not going to take any slack on that because she's probably going to be asked and it's gonna be a great match and everything. Then Rob will come on, it'll be one of the top of the hour segments. And it will be her coming out doing her thing about this and my brutality and stuff like that. And I'm telling you, I see it now. I've seen it into the future. I can tell you that this upcoming Monday, Becky Lynch will be coming back this upcoming Monday in favor.
Michael Marcangelo:Or it's Rhonda, or it
Craig D'Alessandro:could be Rhonda, which I would love. I don't think it's going to be Rhonda But I love that it's Yeah, I when I try and think of these things I just think of the most logical conclusion. And to me that's just Becky come back to take back what you never lost.
Michael Marcangelo:Love that. can't hate that. Oh, one thing I pointed into that story I don't mean to diminish your pick is she handed Oscar the belt So wouldn't it make more sense for her to come out tonight after WrestleMania after
Craig D'Alessandro:either way whoever wins that's gonna face off against
Michael Marcangelo:the last match of the of the card night to WrestleMania 37 the universal championship the big dog, the head of the table Yeah. Roman Reigns versus a rated R superstar edge and the ultimate underdog and the leader of the yes movement Daniel Bryan has been injected into this match or read this this Alright, so let's just talk about the reason that he was putting this match is because people backstage thing edge looks a little old. He's looking older week by week and live crowds not gonna boom Roman reigns over enjoy edges really I love edge. He's really good. But if it's Roman versus edge, they're gonna cheer Roman, which would really throw everything off. Nobody's gonna boo Daniel Bryan. You just can't do it unless he makes you and he's not gonna make you in this match.
Rayshawn Buchanan:That that's not true.
Michael Marcangelo:I'm here to tell you. If Roman loses, it's the wrong thing. He should not lose for a very long time. If he's going to lose next. Honestly, with the championship on the line. It should be the biggie next year. That should be the next time that he loses this belt. I do think they might do something stupid and have EDG brutally beat up Daniel Bryan and pin him for the win. So I think Roman Reigns should win. I think edge is going to win. Right? Go ahead.
Rayshawn Buchanan:So they are Brian got booed out the building. In WrestleMania 35. I was there.
Craig D'Alessandro:Yeah, he's fine. No,
Rayshawn Buchanan:no, no, no, no, I know. But you're saying that no one would go in like just out of like that crowd was white hot for Kofi Kingston. It was like, there Brian returned that night. I'm not sure he would have made out of my last video. I know that it's 72 hours ago. It was insane. Like phase when you're waiting by the car like No, you are not leaving as a planet champion. You were rolling and not leaving the city yet at that time. So that that is a fact. That is not a prediction. That is a spoiler, right? No, but no, I mean, this is gonna be an awesome match. I agree. Roman has been on the best run of his career as well. And you know, yeah, we might need to see him punks. I was how to rain for 34 days. Get let a rock he came back at SummerSlam you know, he's like, you're not a monster without me. And it was like oh, okay, this is different. And then you know, the apparent we haven't Paul Heyman is perfect. Go.
Craig D'Alessandro:So I've been thinking needed Paul Heyman.
Rayshawn Buchanan:He did. He did he was good at it. No, but it's like ever since. I mean, he had I mean, I know a couple years ago at what he was that only still doing the no mercy. We're having john Steena like that's what oh, yeah, that's what he started trying to carve a little bit far as his promo but he's got to get better. Mainly Christina embarrass his ass on national TV. Yeah. Hey, you know, if you want to learn how to do more, learn how to read a big dog, you know, got to talk to john so like, he literally turned you know, turn to curve that night. But no, Haman is the perfect mouthpiece really for any character. But yeah, the paying for heavy rains is awesome. And I'm I just I just wonder what's gonna happen when when Brock comes back. You know, does he do like how you did at WrestleMania 29. He came out with CM Punk. And I think you got to keep
Michael Marcangelo:you got to keep those two away from each other for I mean, you have to so yeah, yeah, I
Rayshawn Buchanan:agree. But I'm just wondering what happens.
Michael Marcangelo:They have the ability to because right now they're doing everything from the Thunderdome. Right. So in reality, Brock could show up on Raw keep rolling on SmackDown Paul's gonna be there any way they're not traveling. So but you're right. gun to head Ray who wins this match?
Rayshawn Buchanan:rated R superstar. I think I might I just think could I mean you could say all you want about him looking like he's out of it edge is still a top 10 performer when he's on. We saw last year. We saw I mean from the right he had the match at WrestleMania 36. I don't care if anyone else says that dead backstage match to him and Randy orienta was phenomenal man that the follow up that tidbit backlash you know, builders the greatest wrestling match ever lived up to the hype Now granted, you know, you can't always have you know, that's subjective right? It
Michael Marcangelo:was it was a great match. But it
Rayshawn Buchanan:was a phenomenal match. So I don't know who's saying that. I don't know who what it is backstage thinks that edge is not going to be healthy.
Michael Marcangelo:That's not what I said. I said people backstage think that he's looking older by the week. Okay,
Rayshawn Buchanan:I mean, so in that at
Michael Marcangelo:that idiot happens to be allegedly the chairman and the CEO of the company,
Rayshawn Buchanan:okay, then you don't put them in the match. You don't put them over to rumbled and so you're losing touch visual. You've been losing touch. But that's Yeah, that's 60 you know our any just got me upset. But no man, Melissa, I liked it I would not be upset at edge one, I won't miss anything. And Brian was either, right because I mean, you know, wherever WrestleMania 30 moment was the special, the special, the buildups of that awesome. Like, you know, Dave Brown was great. I mean, he's a great every performer greatest champion so and he hasn't had a run at champion, so maybe this is a sign. So maybe Daniel Bryan finds a way to win but at the edge case had done to sign wrong,
Michael Marcangelo:it's odd that there's a triple threat with three very different performers and nobody's going to be really upset if either wins, right, because he could make the argument that says l deserve how Craig Tommy Platt last match of the night. Who wins and why
Craig D'Alessandro:I think that this is I this is one of those matches, you know, I know I've pulled out most of the card but this is one of those matches where I feel pretty good and the way I would book this match if I was you know in grill or something like that and you know, I just let these three guys go out there you know, do however they do a 20 minute match and I have you know and you Brian somehow do something that costs edge some and you know, Roman Reigns ended up winning somehow and just weaseling out and then start to view to somebody else the following week on SmackDown and you just you know if this is you know, a lot of people are saying this could be the end for Daniel Bryan if that's the end, you know, super, but you know, dead versus Daniel Bryan would not be a bad dude.
Michael Marcangelo:Can we all just agree that Roman can't eat
Unknown:the pin? No, you protect him lose your top guy you protect him like nobody's business.
Rayshawn Buchanan:Like, okay, that Elimination Chamber know what messy when he faced Kevin Owens? What was that? Well, that
Michael Marcangelo:was a couple. Yeah. A few of them. But he also tapped to Daniel Bryan at Fastlane.
Rayshawn Buchanan:Right? Right. Yeah. Right, you know, said I'll just stop my Oh, man. I'm listening. I'm like said one thing. I'm here for you. There you go. Put it out there. I mean, I'm here for the Roman Roman Empire baby. I'm here for it sounds like you keep it going. I do think down the line. Eventually. Again, since they're both on SmackDown. I do. I would love to see him and Seth go at it again. And at some point, obviously, the story has to be right again, but could I guess I could totally see your step. sanely. Oh, so yeah, well, you're the head of the table. Well, I'm suffering Rob. I'm the freakin architect without me and I hear
Craig D'Alessandro:Yeah, that requires slapping in the face. All right. That'd be tough.
Rayshawn Buchanan:Yeah, probably. Yeah, probably. Yeah. Which was just fine. I like I like I like face Rollins. It was cool to see that WrestleMania
Craig D'Alessandro:he's such a good bad guy, all three of
Rayshawn Buchanan:it, but he's one of the few guys where it's like, it doesn't matter how he's playing. He plays it Well, like I saw I saw Michael Shawn Michaels. They met when he was to heal. You know how much your wrestling fans go back and watch that promo. in Montreal, right before someone saying oh five please. That's one of the greatest one of the greatest of all time, like the just the facial reactions. Going I was just like, it is Oh man, Hitman music Hitman. Brett Brett. Hey, my heart music drops. I was just like, Ah,
Unknown:that's
Rayshawn Buchanan:great. It was awesome. It was great.
Michael Marcangelo:So that concludes our prediction show and run down to the card now get to the good stuff. Now, because this is WrestleMania it's a two night event. So we're gonna go a little bit longer than you would do you would normally expect on for a podcast. So now what we're going to do is we're gonna we're gonna just talk about some of what we think are the best WrestleMania matches of all time. And I think it's hard to start this list and I'm gonna say it right now. I am the biggest Shawn Michaels fan that there is he to me is the greatest wrestler all around because of his ability to sell his ability on the mic. He had charisma hit everything it's hard for me to say that taker Shawn 25 isn't the best. That's I've gone back and watch that that match so many times. And when taker jumped, you know, did his running leap over the top rope. I thought he broke his neck and then from there on it it was on like they just turned it on. I love that match. Ray you you know you're talking about that. It's like when you go back and you watch that. What do you think because those two are in their mid 40s during that
Rayshawn Buchanan:yeah, I mean the storytelling during that four year period so really from oh seven to 2010 really was just remarkable and obviously you know they both been in the company forever at that time obviously you know we think about that blend 97 which is you know we talked about on a previous show GP you know, they've had great matches before but I mean man this match here you know, I say it was basically a two year build up at the time and you know 25th anniversary is and he was then you know there man inventing you know that that WrestleMania and we should go It was the main event but it was it came after?
Michael Marcangelo:Oh, it was seen that it was seen that and Triple H followed it. I
Rayshawn Buchanan:don't even remember. Honestly, I remember and I forgot that he was worried. Yeah, or an orange one Roman I guess I forgot my bad but yeah, you don't even remember that match. Honestly, like Triple H is so great matches at WrestleMania Wasn't it? That wasn't one of them. Right, exactly. Either way that ticker ticker on Microsoft was the main event. So I stand firm on on that on that sentiment. But yeah, it's hard to top. I mean, the one they had the year, the next year, you got some that think that one was even better. And the only reason why I can say that could be number one, it was because of what we knew was going to happen if you know if Shawn ever saw loss, and I mean, man, I mean, just the series that kicked out. Oh, I mean,
Michael Marcangelo:yeah, oh, five had that they had Jr. On the microphone. They brought him back for this match. And first of all the entrance, Shawn comes down from the sky, right here comes up the promo taker saying sometimes it's hell, you got to go through hell to get to heaven, like they played on everything. And then when Sean does the moonsault, or he tries to the nip up and take your counters into a tombstone? One, two, he kicks out and for the first time ever take her soul that like, is he his eyes and you hear Jr. Say I'm having an autobody experience like what did I just see?
Unknown:You can't really articulate what it feels like to watch that match. For the first time. Right? I
Craig D'Alessandro:think what was and I know you want to write but I'm sorry. I'd say what what's interesting to me about this matches the way it was built, it was just another I can beat the undertaker streak. WrestleMania kind of feud to begin with it, you know, didn't get to the what it was more meaningful next year, but it was built really it was built just as another they built it that Shawn Michaels had never lost The Undertaker on a pay per view.
Michael Marcangelo:It was true. All right, ever had.
Craig D'Alessandro:Yeah, but at its core was still the other I could read The Undertaker's on and you know, and that's what you know. And that's what that wasn't there been good Undertaker matches the WrestleMania as well, obviously. And you know, this is just happened to be the end ring. The End ring part of it was just, you know, potentially if not the best, the easily top five greatest matches of all time.
Michael Marcangelo:of all time. I mean, that's false finish. There's that's the first time that he's ever crossed his arms, the opponent's arms and they kick out. And the look that taker gives thinking like, what do I need to do to beat this guy? I mean, it was perfect. Number two, these are in no order. Okay, I will say that what we just talked about for me is the number one match again, a savage steamboat WrestleMania three. If you have access to YouTube to the WWE Network on peacock on a sponsor, sorry, Craig, you need to go back and need to watch this match because it is perfection. And it's not by accident. You know, right? Macho Man Randy Savage is one of the greatest performers in the history of professional wrestling. One of the best promos, definitely one of the most unique promos, and one of the best in ring because he could do it all he was he believed that he could beat anybody on because he was big and strong. But he could also fly over the top rope to the elbow drop and Ricky the dragon steamboat is I think we all regard him as one of the best workers, top 10 Top 25 workers in the history of the business. And the fact that Randy wrote down every single move on an on a piece of paper and a notepad and gave it to Eric, Ricky the dragon steamboat and said, this is what we're going to do. And they did it. And WrestleMania 390 3000 I think 179 or 173 people in the Pontiac Silverdome broke the indoor attendance record. We all remember Hogan and Andre but we've all talked about this. There are matches that talk you into the building. And then there are matches when you talk about when you leave the building. This match and ratio on you just watched recently. This is one of those matches.
Rayshawn Buchanan:Yeah, it was the first time that I seen the whole review. Like I've seen different matches different times. But when I saw that steamboats that savage match, I was like man, like this is incredible. And like, you know, I'm glue and obviously it happened 30 you know, 34 years ago, but to be glued, you know, to the you know, glued to the television like it was like it just happened you know last night shows that you know just certain matches, it always will stand the test of time. And once again, we don't we talked about this off the air. It was for the icy title. The answer kucha title used to really me something, not just something where it was a guy that was a placeholder, when that's how it was on the line, and meant that either you were about to be the man or there was sometimes he was even bigger than the guy that was the world champion put as the Cape Point in case was, you know, WrestleMania 10 as well with Scott Hall and I was I have Reza Ramon, excuse me, Reza Rhone against Shawn Michaels for the ladder match you know what a first ladder match on a pay per view you know, he was icy title to unify it and I'm like that you remember that more than Bret Hart winning winning I guess I want heart like you just remember that so we got to get back to that diocese how to meaning something and really people getting invested in that and that title but yeah but like first name on establish Gmail. It was phenomenal to see that match. I definitely would have been finished the boat had I've been alive. Yeah. I mean, he was awesome. And deftly got to watch the match for him. And Jericho too. I think we do that 24 or 2545 it says 25 Yeah, so you gotta watch that too. If you're if you're a fan, you know he's much older by then but still at it. Old School
Michael Marcangelo:is cool. It was Ricky the dragon steamboat, Jimmy Superfly snuka and Roddy Piper versus Chris Jericho with Mickey Rourke in attendance. Yeah, sorry, came out, right. Yeah.
Rayshawn Buchanan:Yeah, exactly.
Michael Marcangelo:You mentioned that you mentioned it. We want to talk about it too much. ladder match. WrestleMania 10. Intercontinental Championship, Shawn Michaels had been suspended as Intercontinental Champion for testing positive for steroids. He swears he didn't take them. He's been pretty honest about his drug use and all of his all the things that he's done wrong. Vince calls me and says hey, we need the belt. Sean says I have the belt to tear with me once you come and get it. So they make razor the the champion then Shawn comes back with the belt. They unify it and that match went way longer than it was supposed to. took a lot of time on the card. But it was worth it. I mean, that's splash off the top of the ladder. They play that on highlight film from now
Rayshawn Buchanan:well I'll further that point about resumes had like i guess i si even though it was a great match. Like that's not in my top five though. Now. You know, I told you before before the show, you know, the next match after that steamboat and SAVVIS match really is rock Hogan. And I know you believe that you know if you turned off the turn off the TV that the match was horrible volume not not not the TV via whatever, whatever that's call it what you want that that match. I'm sorry, like I to this day. I liked I watched that match about four or five times a year like it just I mean, to see hold on come down and you know, the NWA music headset he's playing the guitar coming down there. And then you hear your your hand 75 80,000 yelling from hockey and and you know, Hogan I mean, it was just crazy man. And I'm not sure there's been a more live crowd that I've heard than that night and now but that was watching it off a review. I can only imagine being there. Like I was in the Superdome. I was assuming for 34 went even I mean good. Just not as big of a moment. But when Dave O'Brien music hit when he was coming out with Shane McMahon and his return match that crowd went nuts, but I'm like, I still don't think that was anything like what happened when you know when rockin Hogan was there. And I said, once again, it was also an hell of a match. It was something where it's like, oh, I mean, Hogan. It was a moment. No, it was a hell of a match. And I said on top of that was two of them. It was iconference icon and it lived up to the hype. The second one was garbage. But the first one was good.
Michael Marcangelo:Yeah, Hogan did the right thing. Right. He put the rock over, but he made sure that he did it while coming in a heel and leaving a baby face. So that's not what let's not let that go unnoticed. Also, I say that match should in my opinion is one of the greatest WrestleMania moments. Right? That after the music has faded away, they're standing in the ring and they both start looking at the crowd. And the crowd is just eating it up. Everything Hogan did. They cheered, he hit rock with his belt. They cheered instantly the rock was I mean, the crowd turned. And when I remember vividly when the rock had Hogan down like on his knee and Anna was one of those punches and Hogan started hooking up which by the way, he never did his Hollywood Hogan because that's not a hill thing to do. Right. He read the room. And the whole place went nuts. I think. Yeah, that's a it's a great match, but it's a great match because of the interaction with the crowd. less to do with what happened in the
Rayshawn Buchanan:past that that matters, though. For sure. You know that that's another reason why I mean granted the enduring thing we talked about with WrestleMania 26 with Shawn and take her like the crowd helps to make the match which is why we're missing that that element obviously you know goes without being sad But yeah, I mean looks like so I watched that match so much I can I never get tired of it. I know how it ends. I know you I know how to finish goals like all that. But it was great.
Michael Marcangelo:Another match that should have been the main event that wasn't
Rayshawn Buchanan:Listen to me it was the main event so I could care less about Jericho and hunter rockin Hogan WrestleMania 18 is honestly and I'm not ashamed to say that might be like say that might be my favorite match of all time. Like I'm not saying to say that like that's how much I love that match. Yeah, it was awesome and I crave to be in a crowd like that. So it literally was one day with this show. Who knows we might meet you know to the masses and this will be you know, we're already getting you know, getting pretty big as is but man, it'd be dope to be involved in a crowd like that for WrestleMania week. Awesome. Watch out Sam Roberts. We're coming for you.
Michael Marcangelo:I imagine it's a lot like WrestleMania 30 a triple threat match with with with with Brian, my
Rayshawn Buchanan:God, oh, crowd.
Michael Marcangelo:When Dana Bryan was taken out on the stretcher and came back. They exploded when he won. I think it's for time purposes. A little bit. A little caution. reversal take it because it wouldn't be cheap either unless we did something controversial. It could be argued that the greatest triple threat match in WWE history took place at WrestleMania 20. And if you try to search for it on a network, it will come up as Shawn Michaels versus Triple H for the World Heavyweight Championship. But neither of those two one, Crispin Wah, winner of the 2004 Royal Rumble goes on to has a phenomenal program and which well actually was entering into a program or Shawn and hunter had just had a Last Man Standing match at the rumble and ended with neither of them could get up after the count of 10. Shawn said he had some unfinished business super kicked, then while put himself in the contract brings us to Madison Square Garden. And 2004. And Ben law had been a guy, you know, a lot like Eddie Guerrero, that everyone thought should finally be a champion. because technically in the rain, aside from Kurt Angle, you know, just pure technical, you know, just technical wrestling, there's no one that was better ever in that ring. And that match was on believable from all the false finishes to Triple H what I thought was pedigree and Crispin WA, and that gets turned into a crossface. Or the sharpshooter on triplets in the middle of the Raymond Shawn super kicks him out of nowhere. It's one of the it's one of the best matches, in my opinion. And one of the greatest crowd reactions because that was in what many people would refer to as the reign of terror, where Triple H was not losing to a lot of people that he was not friends with. So putting, so tapping out to Ben wall in the middle of the ring of Madison Square Garden at the 20th anniversary of WrestleMania. Not the bigger nothing bigger than that. Right, great, great,
Craig D'Alessandro:great. What makes that so sad and unfortunate, too is the celebration happened right after, right? Because that's an WWE title as well. Or the heavyweight title, whatever it was. It's just that's just you know, looking back on it, you know, was it 13 years later? 2017 years? 17 years later, holy
Unknown:shit, right?
Craig D'Alessandro:It's crazy. It's just sad. And you know, obviously Eddie Guerrero are way out the way he went out and the way Crossman wall went out it just it's sad. brah
Unknown:Yeah, yeah, right.
Rayshawn Buchanan:No, I'll say no, for sure. As Craig literally we had like the same thought like it was awesome to see them celebrate that after Matthew imagine. I mean, hell talking about that match to Randy Grover's Kurt Angle was great, too, you know, you know, he likes to change the steel to retain the title if he had that with the bow, right. But it's, you know, figure that same year it's it's just it's such that I wish the No Way Out match was the WrestleMania
Michael Marcangelo:Yeah, yeah. It should it shouldn't
Rayshawn Buchanan:that dad, No, dad, no way out match. I mean, to this day, that that's my favorite non Wrestlemania match.
Michael Marcangelo:Yeah, because conversely,
Rayshawn Buchanan:I mean, Oh, my God. Oh, I mean, you know, come on, daddy. Come on, daddy. You know, I'm, I'm not the biggest fan of Michael Cole. Just like he made it. He made that call the Miracle on bourbon. shinda. Daniel Bryan, he made that moment that much better with that. Come on, Eddie, come on any you know, tonight? Eddie Guerrero has a different high like that. That was a great call. Excuse me? I think so. That's one thing I miss about that. But yeah,
Michael Marcangelo:I think they're, they're, you know, we could go on for hours about this. I think there are some honorable mentions. There's take your Triple H WrestleMania. 28. To Hell in a Cell match.
Rayshawn Buchanan:That was well both both years. 2728 28 though
Michael Marcangelo:that brutality, I mean, 27 was a great story to tell that Tigger barely won, he could and he didn't even walk out. But that held on a Cell match with Shawn is a referee to at the end of the era. Awesome. This is my favorite Wrestlemania match of all time.
Craig D'Alessandro:All entire feud was just phenomenally how I remember the started back in 2012. The Undertaker came back, we all thought it was gonna be staying. And he came back and then Triple H came out because he wanted to finish when Sean couldn't. And, you know, undertaking You know, this is the point where the undertaker was kind of banged up. And this is a point where people will stop for like the millionth time. All right, well, that's the annual average. That's the last will ever see him. And we thought it was. And then he Undertaker comes back in the next year. And every single person out there in that ring. All right. Two years in a row, triple A Triple H versus the undertaker WrestleMania and Triple H walks away. Because he doesn't want to destroy him. Yep. Then that all leads to the match at WrestleMania, which is the storyline in that, and I'm gonna include Shawn Michaels in that four years. Oh,
Unknown:yeah.
Craig D'Alessandro:That between those just those three guys involved in one storyline. To me that was the best in the history.
Michael Marcangelo:You can't not include Shawn in that because if you remember, he was a really big part in the first match in 2011 in Atlanta, where he said were to take her said to you know, if you Why do you think you can beat me when Sean couldn't right? And then the next year, you know, when it's revealed that take her had she This head, that's the first time we saw it in hell in the cell, right? They faked hair for a while. And the story was that he'd been pulling his hair out for the year since he lost that match. Or since he barely won that match, but that super kick into a pedigree for to count.
Rayshawn Buchanan:What was I thought it was I thought it was over. I was like, Oh my god, like it's going to happen. I'm like, I can't believe it's gonna end like this. And I'm like, you had a one, two and it just add like, you know, two in like nine tenths and was like, I was like, I was it. Oh my god, I was like, wow, I was like, he kicked out.
Michael Marcangelo:And it's so nuanced because Sean was the guy that kicked him but he didn't fast count it. No, he counted it for real.
Craig D'Alessandro:Although he did fast count a couple of times. And then
Michael Marcangelo:yeah, but then like you remember actually kicked him in any case out like they just show Sean in the corner with this hit. But that
Rayshawn Buchanan:Yeah, right. But that's what adds to the story. But that's what adds to the story. And that's where you know, some of your new age wrestlers now go back and watch some of the stuff where it's the psychology It's the new ones like he gets into cake and it like say Craig just said it a couple of times in that matching fast counter but in that moment because they knew it was a special moment it's going to be one to two and a lead is like always you had you have everybody on the edge of their seat so that's where just no one where basically like we talked about how to read a room that's what saw Michael that's what those two guys knew how to do better than most and Craig You were right to say that four year run really is the best run really in probably in all of in all the wrestling honestly none of the matches disappointed you know, there's just you know, it was great each time it was great. It was great and you know I'm forever thankful God was able to see those matches is too bad couldn't see it live like in person but man it was awesome to see that we can always go back and watch it you know on the WB network or now not as peacock so yeah, it's great man but like it is this so many of the matches that they go to from WrestleMania and I'm surprised I mean, I know we couldn't make it all Shawn Michaels but I mean why not? Why maybe as Mr. WrestleMania dangle it? Well yeah crit angle as well as democrat angle at WrestleMania 21. Whenever we go to Vegas, that's the next one Jericho at 19. I mean, it was just it was crazy. Him in Austin at 14 like you know, with a broken back. Yeah. Speaking of psychology, right, Mike Tyson who he understands psychology or boxing, but not I say we're wrestling so he does a double cross, but he counts. He counts 123 and this is like no Mike. Oh, you got a little bit of a slower count. And I know his adrenaline was rushing at that moment too because I know Boston was on fire at that fire on fire but it's just like it's like just a little bit of a floor count though. One
Michael Marcangelo:Two I think it gave me it's just like ah I actually think he was told to do that cuz I give Shawn it out. You know what I mean? Like anybody
Rayshawn Buchanan:out there anyway, he was gone. I said you know remember you said you were there you talked about on a previous show? You know lost my spot I
Michael Marcangelo:got there. I was not there. I wasn't she was I was in Lowell when he lost his smile and I said
Rayshawn Buchanan:I'm saying Yeah, okay, gotcha Okay, so yeah so it was it was on he was on his way I like to say on a bad back you know, broken back yeah bad by broken back he is missing the next four years he comes back and like you know Commissioner roll and some other stuff but you know, it wasn't any any in ring stuff. So yeah, man I mean like I said there's so many other WrestleMania
Michael Marcangelo:well the Iron Man match
Rayshawn Buchanan:Yes, exactly. You know, you know what Shawn Michaels talks about his and his Hall of Fame he's like you know think about no one wanted to you know, no one want to see it at the time but they they made sure that they made it a go but I think about I can't even bring this up table Ladders and Chairs 17 I mean, the Delhi boys Edge and Christian and Hardy Boys What do you think? What do you think that's the best tag team match of all time?
Michael Marcangelo:Is that Is it the most is that more of a match like a best match? Or is that moment when edge Spears hardy from the bell? No,
Rayshawn Buchanan:no, no, no match. No. Like the move to edge moment you always remember but I was I was also held a match. Like even that triangle ladder match the year before was really good. We had your Christian one of the title for the first time but TLC to suck it up another level. But a Madonna for the last year and a half. So they've really built up that story. You know, up to WrestleMania 17. But yeah, that TLC too. I mean, man, um, camera shot apartment,
Michael Marcangelo:it was shot to spike Dudley was unbelievable, beautiful thing, a
Rayshawn Buchanan:thing of beauty.
Michael Marcangelo:I think. Yeah, I mean, there, there are just so many. There are great matches. And I think, you know, for all those jagad wrestling fans out there that said that it's not as good as it used to be. If you think about all the matches that we've been able to see over the last let's just say 17 years since WrestleMania. 20 I mean, you have a ton of matches. I mean, also rock Austin, pick your poison. Is it 15 is it 17 is at 1970 He was great because of the turn.
Rayshawn Buchanan:He also I was so pissed. I was so pissed but nice office
Michael Marcangelo:19 was also great because he had Hollywood rock coming in. And he had Jerry The King Lawler and commentary every 10 seconds saying WrestleMania in the movie, so much so that Jim Ross had to tell him to shut up about WrestleMania like it was, I think it was everything. I think there are so many matches now. Again, we're coming to the end of this best WrestleMania moments. The Austin era begins WrestleMania 14. Now again, my guy was Shawn Michaels. I actually was able to take to not go to school the next day, because I was so distraught, but Sean loss, and I knew that he was gone. I mean, you didn't you could you know, the internet was in was in its infancy back then. But my dad will always be like, read the dirt sheets. And everyone knew that he had a bad back. Austin era beginning Jr. Screaming Stone Cold Stone Cold. Mike Tyson live. I mean, if that was a word punch, then it's the best word punch to the non wrestlers ever thrown to Shawn because it looked like it hit him. And great story. Hogan. Andre WrestleMania Is there a more iconic moment in WrestleMania history than the Hulk Hogan body slamming onto the giant?
Rayshawn Buchanan:One moment I can think of that, boy, it wouldn't have talked to them. It would have been up there. If Brock connected that shooting star press at WrestleMania 19. I guess Kurt Angle that might have been up there honestly, because I didn't. I mean, yeah, good. I mean, man to see a guy that big, that athletic. That strong pull of their move, or almost all of their move was crazy. Like I was like, Man, this is this is incredible.
Michael Marcangelo:What about Seth Rollins cashing in the Money in the Bank of WrestleMania 31.
Rayshawn Buchanan:It was a great moment because it had people like me pissed off. I mean, that that's, you know, and like I said, JBL said it best. This is the highest of the century. And then that's the you'll never forget that moment. Also, I mean, staying at WrestleMania cnn wl verse TX. Finally get the Monday night wars coming to life. Right? Yeah. Right. Right.
Craig D'Alessandro:Yeah, which, by the way, as far as storylines goes, Why the hell would sting team with the demo end who
Rayshawn Buchanan:chose the WCW thing?
Unknown:Yeah, but if you but NWA was anti WCW.
Craig D'Alessandro:Yeah. I'm going back to WCW 1997. Now, so Nevermind.
Rayshawn Buchanan:Yeah, no, that's that's true. And we you know, we know division. Lansing says some top but the bad and yeah, he's the he's looking down. Yeah. So I mean, that was that was great. I mean, but I mean, it was awesome. Staying in a, you should have one ring here. Yes, you should. Oh, no,
Craig D'Alessandro:there's no way Vince was gonna let it W. That'd be
Unknown:years later.
Rayshawn Buchanan:We wasn't gonna do that. You know why? Yeah, I wasn't gonna put them over. Not at that moment. Maybe if they had a part two, he might have put them over, but he wasn't gonna put them at WrestleMania. But that wasn't happening. But what the next year WrestleMania 32. We're talking about moments with the lot of the back then a lot of match the the triple star between Sasha Charlotte and Donna Gardner who was the third person
Michael Marcangelo:Becky,
Rayshawn Buchanan:Becky. Yeah, Becky.
Michael Marcangelo:She comes out with a Snoop Dogg singer down there. And her Eddie Guerrero gear. I mean, nominal.
Rayshawn Buchanan:So that's what's up the same? Well, we've had matches at least from 2014 to now. We've had some great moments. This thing I Triple H that that the ladyship with that. But you know, that was the first Women's Championship match or new Women's Championship match the Hardy Boys coming back to 2017. When I tell you that that Camping World stadium was shaking, when they asked my friends to meet here, in person that Buddha was seeking, the people without the new day was going to be the next team and they're like, whoo, and I was like, I my eyes and my eyes gonna keep my head. Like, I gotta send you another video. But I said I'm I mean that my phone is shaking. Everyone's like hugging each other. Like we just won the championship. Like it was insane. It was awesome. And, you know, this is not really a moment where everything is coming to my mind right now. But even Joshua coming back a couple years ago and 35 foot were stumbling duck a nomics gimmick. I was like, you're we're alive who's like, what he's back, okay.
Michael Marcangelo:Two more things. And 35 I think Kofi winning. Oh. It's amazing.
Rayshawn Buchanan:I cried. I'm not gonna lie. I cried. I cried. And I know, it's real to me, dammit. And, you know, when he hit the SOS, and it's like, you're the one to the end. And it's like, if I would have been either Xavier words or Biggie, like, I would have jumped in the ring immediately. Like, I know, it says moment, but I'm like, it was much bigger than Kofi at that moment. And it was just like, once again, people was hugging me in the stands. Like, I was Kofi himself. Like, it was like, Oh, my God, I can't believe he won. And it was like we won. I'm like, Okay, yeah, we won great, like good Osby. But I was all mad. Yeah, that's another moment. I'll never forget that either. So,
Michael Marcangelo:also, Greg,
Craig D'Alessandro:I think we're forgetting one. To me. It's my it's far as far as moments goes. Maybe not matches but moments. Ric Flair was Shawn Michaels.
Unknown:Oh my god. That's
Rayshawn Buchanan:right.
Michael Marcangelo:I'm sorry. Yeah. I love you. And then just
Craig D'Alessandro:I'm sorry. I love you. Let's take a walk me out in the shed. Yeah. Oh
Rayshawn Buchanan:my gosh. Yeah. And that that's what I saw. I didn't know that was gonna be rich last match until it dawned on me until you see him like in tears. And he's saying, Come on. He knows it's over. Kick Noxus to catch throat 123. And I was just like, man, like, anything goes, you know? Yeah. It was a great moment asked what I forgot. I forgot about that. But that's another match. I also watched a few times a year too, but I'm just like, man, it was so like, This story was great. So it was great. It was awesome.
Michael Marcangelo:I think just to wrap it all up. We've been you know, as wrestling fans. were privileged. I mean, mania. There are bad manias. But there's not there's never been a mania within like the last 20 years that there's not been one amazing match on the card. Right. So be on the lookout for that this weekend. I also want to say a moment that happened too late. I don't think that the match lived up to the moment. But it was the triple threat match between Charlotte, Becky, and Rhonda. They main event at WrestleMania. It was about time. If there ever three women to do it. It should have been them the match by that time. The crowd was too tired. I mean, I think at the end,
Rayshawn Buchanan:I was exhausted. Yeah, you're too
Michael Marcangelo:tired. Yeah. And it may have been a botched ending with the way that Rhonda put back through the finishing. It was a roll up but you want to see uh, you know, I do love that recently that women have been elevated to the same stature as men. I've loved the fact that now we have Bobby lashley as you know, as universal or WWE Champion, we had Kofi Kingston as universal web champion like we're, they're doing the right thing. Everybody go out there and enjoy WrestleMania this weekend because there are fans in the building. It's going to be not a packed Stadium, but they're gonna be 25,000 fans in that stadium two nights in a row. So go out there and enjoy it for rayshawn Buchanan, Craig D'Alessandro I am Michael Mark Angela saying thank you so much for listening to this episode of cheapy brought to you by missing the point